So the cia, fbi and doj - under Biden - are cool with the coming destruction...

[polichick]

…of the gov’t by a clown car of characters with allegiance to foreign states??? Seeing the daily normalization of this horror by the media, I guess we’re supposed to pretend all is well.

The term ‘enemy from within’ is being used by the wrong side. What will it take for the security agencies under the current administration to act to protect the Constitution from those who clearly intend to shred it?!

(The clown car is also meant to distract from the critical examination of the vote. Harris needs to take the advice given in the letter from cyber security experts - and not be distracted by the show.)

[Scubamatt]

1. Please

Someone with knowledge of these institutions, please explain what they might/could do to respond to a direct threat to their mission? I am, like the OP, dismayed how these active organizations could just sit idly by . . . .

[polichick]

6. Surely, they are well aware of connections between this cast of characters and known enemies...

And, anyone else would already be in prison for the stolen documents. The doj - under Biden - has SO FAR chosen not to take that step.

[Think. Again.]

29. I agree with everything you're saying, but...

...I want to point out that the doj, and those other agencies, might be within the Executive branch but they are under garland, not Biden.

In fact Biden has always been firm and clear about the fact that he will not interfere in any way with the work of the justice dept.

And yes, the doj - under gARLAND - has SO FAR chosen not to take that step, or very much of any other steps either.

[questionseverything]

33. While what you say is true, the president's job is to enforce the law

The head of justice is just the president’s assistant

[Think. Again.]

43. As I mentioned, Biden has always been very clear that he will not interfere with the Justice Dept's work.

Your "assistant" explanation is, well, ...kinda crazy.

[polichick]

40. At any time, Pres. Biden can choose another AG - even now...

Better late than never.

[Think. Again.]

44. Don't AG nominations have to be approved by Congress?

[polichick]

47. Only Dems worry about such things.

[Fish700]

42. Because the American voting public blew it.

These bodies follow the constitution. They depend on the people they serve not voting for candidates who say they are going to destroy our institutions. The voters had one simple job...

All the supposed leftists now calling for the deep state to execute a coup is disturbing.

[kansasobama]

2. I am surprised how everyone is cool

Do they believe Trump will spare them?

[polichick]

8. That could be what they're thinking.

[Irish_Dem]

9. Maybe they think they are immune from what is going to hit us?

Or maybe they are afraid to speak out or do anything for fear of retaliation and death threats.

[wnylib]

35. My guess is that they fear retaliation from Putin.

[Irish_Dem]

36. Yes I agree.

Between Trump's flying monkeys and Putin's henchmen it is a scary time for anyone who speaks out.

[TheKentuckian]

3. What do you have in mind for them to do?

[polichick]

7. The same thing they do with other traitors who work for enemies and steal docs...

It’s absurd that everyone thinks this one traitor is untouchable.

[TheKentuckian]

18. Well, what we do is put them on trial but we seem out of runway to land that plane today.

Garland let that horse out of the barn and now it is too late.

[polichick]

19. Remember, Trump is out on bail. Anyone else acting to...

shred the Constitution would lose that privilege.

[wnylib]

37. He has foreign protection.

[Irish_Dem]

10. We pay them to come up with the ideas.

If I have to do their jobs for them, they can sign over their paychecks to me.

[polichick]

11. Amazingly, they are allowing this from someone convicted of 34 felonies...

who is OUT ON BAIL.

Ridiculous.

[TheKentuckian]

12. Magical thinking fueled by desperation then?

Consider the possibility that every problem doesn't come with good and practicable solutions.

These are just other people, they don't have magic wands.

What can be done is start the civil war and take our chances with that or if Biden has clandestine death squads personally loyal to him then he can try to have a goodly number of Republicans killed.

If you are demanding some legal maneuver be spun up out of thin air then there is none.

[wnylib]

41. Interesting suggestion about Biden starting a civil war.

He would not do it, of course. That would destroy the Bill of Rights and the rest of the constitution. It would mean turning government weapons on civilians.

But, from a purely strategic perspective, starting a war now as a preemptive action would have the advantage of Biden being in charge of the military. However, the military brass who are in charge now would probably refuse to attack civilians within the country.

OTOH, Trump's policies and retaliations against his "enemies" might trigger a war anyway, after he is in control of the military.

[UT_democrat]

32. Sit on their hands

It’s too soon after an election and crimes might be considered politicizing the vote😀😀😀😀

[tritsofme]

4. What choice do you think they have? What would you suggest they do?

[Autisminsight]

5. Crickets

No shit. None of them have anything to say about Putin and Musk?

[meadowlander]

13. The public service exists to serve the public. The public voted for Trump.

Trust me, you don't want the CIA, DOJ and FBI acting on their own initiative according to their own independent political beliefs.

If the country is fucked it's because an unserious electorate elected an unserious president who didn't even have to lie about his plans to dismantle the government.

There's nothing the public service can do to reverse that.

[Think. Again.]

30. The CIA, DOJ and FBI...

....are PAID to act on their own initiative, and no one is saying anything about anyone's political beliefs, we're talking about crimes being committed.

[lostnfound]

49. Could've arrested him on January 21 on suspicion of starting an insurrection

Released him and re-arrested him for stealing classified documents
Made life miserable for any of his allies who were also suspected of crimes
Don’t tell me there aren’t reasons to arrest Jared Kushner,

Use it or lose it applies to power.

[SoFlaBro]

14. Have the intelligence agencies ever fucking acted in direct conflict to the President in our history?

[polichick]

16. Biden is president right now.

[SoFlaBro]

17. Not really what I asked.

[BlueTsunami2018]

24. Some might say you could ask JFK.

But he wasn’t around for anyone to pose the question.

[S/V Loner]

15. If they are doing anything,...

though I doubt it, we wouldn't be hearing about it until they want us to hear about it.

[Rebl2]

21. That is

my thought. They could quietly be making plans, but they sure aren’t going to make it public.

[Dem4life1234]

45. This!

They are not foolish enough to announce it to the public!

[stillcool]

20. I like to think there is more going on

that is not for public consumption because nothing is ready for public consumption. Ducks aren't lining up kind of thing. Someone has to push the panic button pretty damn soon. We all knew this was going to be an effed up election, and surely the effing government hasn't been sitting back watching tv, and having a beer discussing the one story every news station is reporting that day. It's flipping insane to think about, so from now on I'm not!

[yellow dahlia]

22. Yes!

I have been saying the exact same thing.

[Hotler]

23. I wonder how many whistleblowers the CIA, FBI, etc. has put away for life on a bullshit charge to keep them

from leaking info to the press on their cocaine, money laundering, arms dealing actives. IMO. If our government really wanted to put someone away and make it stick without the pesky appeals courts they could do it. All it takes is the will.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
Hi agent Mike.

[Beringia]

25. Do they have contingencies for an infiltration at the very top I wonder

[Phoenix61]

26. What makes you think they are cool with it?

Did you think they were going to issue a press release saying they are actively trying to protect their assets from the compromised president and his motley crew? I’m going to trust Malcom Nance on this for 2 reasons, 1) I think he is very knowledgeable about things like this 2) It allows me to sleep at night.

[oldmanlynn]

27. If they suck up Trump and bend the knee, then they can keep their fuking jobs. That's what I think it's gonna happen.

[electric_blue68]

46. Where have you seen MN's latest comments?

[maxrandb]

28. S-T-O-P! B-L-A-M-I-N-G! B-I-D-E-N!!!!

[polichick]

39. Biden is still president - I don't think of him as powerless.

[Meowmee]

31. Good questions

We need answers... not people who are so concerned with being polite and following so called norms when democracy is in its final death stages... they are supposed to protect the country and the people from these sort of threats.

[Amaryllis]

34. WHy is everyone so sure they are doing nothing? You have no idea what is going on behind closed doors.

Do you want them to go on MSNBC and say "This is what we are doing."?
I went to a town hall with Senator Wyden last week and rest assured there is a whole lot Dem senators and reps are working on that we don't know about.

[Jit423]

38. Quite a number of them are closeted wingers. Happy to go after "libs" like HRC, Biden, Hunter etc.

Been that way since inception when minorities couldn't even work for them.

[republianmushroom]

48. Sure seems like some are.