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spooky3

(36,209 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:09 PM Nov 13

A little comfort? Rs held Prez, House, Senate after Nov 2016 election

and they got very little done. Obviously there are lots of differences with today. However, the margin is very narrow in the House again, and the Speaker will need Dem help on a lot of things, because there is discord within the Rs as evidenced by their choice of majority leader in the Senate, various Rs' open reactions to today's cabinet nominations, etc.

Further, some rational Rs surely are aware that if Trump doesn't deliver on the needed economic progress that a lot of voters SAID was the reason they supported Trump, they could face bleak prospects in the midterms in 2026. Given the general incompetence of the incoming admin - and the limited control politicians have to change big economic forces - this is not out of the question.

We would all like for the election outcomes to have been different--not in denial about that. I'm just seeing that there are things that may give us a little hope.

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A little comfort? Rs held Prez, House, Senate after Nov 2016 election (Original Post) spooky3 Nov 13 OP
We'll recover. mr715 Nov 13 #1
Differ on:"we brought this on ourselves". Agree on: "we'll recover". marybourg Nov 14 #2
We haven't recovered from Reagan yet. TheKentuckian Nov 14 #3
I am SO with you on that statement Babajida Nov 14 #5
Continuation if not conclusion mr715 Nov 14 #8
Processing, and probably poorly worded. mr715 Nov 14 #6
NO We Didn't "bring this o Ourselves". We're All Patriots Here. Cha Nov 14 #4
Probably true mr715 Nov 14 #7

mr715

(866 posts)
1. We'll recover.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:11 PM
Nov 13

It is awful getting a poisoned purged from us. We brought this on ourselves, and we will self correct and improve and grow.

I am a patriot.


MR

TheKentuckian

(26,250 posts)
3. We haven't recovered from Reagan yet.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 02:44 AM
Nov 14

It took me until about two years ago to recover (not accounting for inflation, so not from that either really but it helps with the stiff upper lip to pretend) from the FIRST Dumbass Dubya recession.

Bullshitting is like taking a cough drop hoping to cure pneumonia.

Babajida

(65 posts)
5. I am SO with you on that statement
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:45 AM
Nov 14

I keep saying that Trump et al is the logical conclusion of Reagan's presidency. Reagan's economics and union busting, Newt Gingrich and his doublespeak and disregard for facts, the GOP's cynical use of the religious right, or the "moral majority" as they liked to call themselves. Trump makes Reagan seem like a statesman, makes Bush Jr. seem like a reasonable nice guy, but really he's their demon offspring, the product of the deliberate path they set this country on. Utterly predictable.

mr715

(866 posts)
6. Processing, and probably poorly worded.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:49 PM
Nov 14

I meant to express my entirely personal and internal sense that our countrymen are not as great as I had hoped.

My inclination is towards strong incrementalism and institutionalism, so I'm feeling a bit more radical in my middle age.

mr715

(866 posts)
7. Probably true
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 03:51 PM
Nov 14

The Democratic party really seemed to have gotten the patriot messaging down this cycle though. I'm just working through.

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