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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone heard from Jill Stein? Or the Green party?
I haven't heard a word.
Initech
(103,123 posts)Autumn
(47,004 posts)There were eight choices for president on our Colorado Ballot this year. Less than usual. Maybe you should reserve that circle in hell for the people who wrote the Constitution.
Initech
(103,123 posts)Not to get Trump elected, but to deny Kamala winning. That's sick. And I hope she spends the rest of her life regretting this decision.
Zeitghost
(4,557 posts)Could have went to Harris in MI and she would have still lost.
Mariana
(15,271 posts)Harris might have won a couple more states if every 3rd party vote went for her, but it wouldn't have been enough. None of the votes for Stein made a bit of difference in the outcome.
Autumn
(47,004 posts)Initech
(103,123 posts)No doubt he had an influence in swinging the election. And he's in the Trump / fascist circle. Highly suspect.
LessAspin
(1,449 posts)But a vote for Trump was in a way a vote for Netanyahu!
MineralMan
(148,306 posts)Autumn
(47,004 posts)Like many here I don't forget some things.
MineralMan
(148,306 posts)Autumn
(47,004 posts)Babajida
(78 posts)She'll be back in 2028 to sow her special brand of chaos.
Autumn
(47,004 posts)MagickMuffin
(17,295 posts)Shell be ready just in time to gear up her grifting machine for the dumbasses who vote for her. I know someone who votes for her and thinks shes a solution even though she will never be president of the United States. Only in her dreams!
LessAspin
(1,449 posts)Anybody that remembers the old comedy and variety shows will recall how they would bring the different acts out at the end for a final bow..
Bob Hope: let's hear it for Jill Stein everyone, isn't she great, she'll be back again in 4 years if needed.
Only in this case Trump is Bob Hope.
LessAspin
(1,449 posts)In 2016 the Trump campaign targeted voters they knew could be swayed to vote third party as a protest vote or just not vote at all..
So those arguing that Stein didn't receive enough votes to make a difference miss the bigger point. It's as much if not more about turning off potential Democratic voters as it is about getting people to switch to Stein. Unfortunately it worked.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/105811897
Wiz Imp
(3,117 posts)Total Stein voters in Michigan, 2024 = 44,537
Trump winning margin in Michigan = 79,564
If every single Stein voter has voted for Harris, Harris still wouldn't have won.
Stein being on the ballot made not a lick of difference in the results of this election and people complaining about her at this point just look like idiots.
LessAspin
(1,449 posts)Which is why I posted that Stein getting votes was NOT the point.
Muddying the waters and turning off Democratic voters ie., Voter Suppression was the point.
Jill Stein siphoning off votes was just an added bonus.
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Wiz Imp
(3,117 posts)She had zero impact on this election and will have zero impact on any election in the future.
Mariana
(15,271 posts)than about the tens of millions of Trump voters.
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EllieBC
(3,406 posts)Another election fucked up in the name of their principles.
Mariana
(15,271 posts)If every single 3rd party vote had gone for Harris instead, Trump still would have won the Electoral College.
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Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)Johonny
(22,580 posts)Steal votes from the democratic party. I assume in-between they spend their time being actual Republicans.
MineralMan
(148,306 posts)Jill Stein has probably already been rewarded by Putin. The Green Party is just nauseatingly colored. I can still smell Ralph Nader on it.
Drum
(10,027 posts)Happy Hoosier
(8,670 posts)Jit423
(709 posts)GoodRaisin
(9,740 posts)magicarpet
(17,444 posts)After a 2024 job well done. She dissuaded enough Dem voters to not even go to the polls but rather just sit 2024 out and let djt perform his magic for AmeriKKKa by winning his way back into the WH.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,367 posts)And they are gloating over Harris losing.
Ysabel
(2,080 posts)If I ever come across that one guy who was head of the Green Party here I'll probably ask him why he got a bunch of people to give him money and then went and skipped town...
What's her face (Jill Stein) acted like a snob when she visited our old co-op a few years back. She snubbed my husband (the VP there) while he was telling her how the co-op was run she just ignored him and walked away while he was talking - the creepy old snooty traitor...
woodsprite
(12,287 posts)MichMan
(13,922 posts)DFW
(57,067 posts)They are probably enjoying a well-deserved expenses-paid vacation at Sochi.
BamaRefugee
(3,742 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,446 posts)... Stein is an active member/poster on Twitter. She called the election of Trump a "failure of the two-party system." She was especially scornful of one party - Democrats. I did not read the whole post.
Dem4life1234
(2,258 posts)To me, she is equally as bad as a Rethug, same peas in a pod.
The new Ralph Nader. Probably worse because dumbasses actually vote for her.
City Lights
(25,494 posts)LeftInTX
(31,912 posts)recount scam
Behind the Aegis
(55,048 posts)Her job is done.
The Third Doctor
(405 posts)Vote for Harris, Trump, third party or not vote. They did the last 3 more so than the first. Numerically Stein was not the overall reason for Harris losing but she did sow discord and pushed a narrative. I bet many in the area voted for Trump. I guess they forgot about the Muslim ban and Trump being friends with Bibi. I think more Rashida Tlaib can draw blame also. Plus don't forget those that voted in sympathy with the undecided movement.
Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)And now she'll go into cold storage again until Moscow needs to thaw her out for 2028...