Has anyone heard from Jill Stein? Or the Green party?

[Yavin4]

I haven't heard a word.

[Initech]

1. There's a special circle of hell reserved for Jill Stein.

[Autumn]

3. Why? Anyone that meets the qualifications has the right to run for office.

There were eight choices for president on our Colorado Ballot this year. Less than usual. Maybe you should reserve that circle in hell for the people who wrote the Constitution.

[Initech]

5. Three weeks ago, she said that she was going to help flip Michigan.

Not to get Trump elected, but to deny Kamala winning. That's sick. And I hope she spends the rest of her life regretting this decision.

[Zeitghost]

7. Every Stein vote

Could have went to Harris in MI and she would have still lost.

[Mariana]

12. That's true nationwide.

Harris might have won a couple more states if every 3rd party vote went for her, but it wouldn't have been enough. None of the votes for Stein made a bit of difference in the outcome.

[Autumn]

23. Same as the Republicans' said they were going to do.

And they succeeded. IMO I blame Netanyahu for Dems losing the Arab American vote in those swing states. He put Dems in an impossible situation and I believe it was to get Trump elected. Netanyahu belongs in one of those circles in hell so many seem to like.

[Initech]

24. Agreed! Fuck Netanyahu!

No doubt he had an influence in swinging the election. And he's in the Trump / fascist circle. Highly suspect.

[LessAspin]

25. Bibi had Biden over a Barrel

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[atreides1]

26. Maybe

But a vote for Trump was in a way a vote for Netanyahu!

[MineralMan]

19. True, but we support Democrats here, right?

[Autumn]

37. You have been here almost as long as I have. What do you think?

Like many here I don't forget some things.

[MineralMan]

46. I just told you what i think.

[Autumn]

47. As did I. nt

[Babajida]

13. She goes back to that circle of hell for her four year hibernation

She'll be back in 2028 to sow her special brand of chaos.

[Autumn]

38. She has been running for President since 2012. Hell of a gig.

[MagickMuffin]

2. Last I heard she back into hibernation until 2028

She’ll be ready just in time to gear up her grifting machine for the dumbasses who vote for her. I know someone who votes for her and thinks she’s a solution even though she will never be president of the United States. Only in her dreams!

[LessAspin]

4. Bob Hope

Anybody that remembers the old comedy and variety shows will recall how they would bring the different acts out at the end for a final bow..

Bob Hope: let's hear it for Jill Stein everyone, isn't she great, she'll be back again in 4 years if needed.

Only in this case Trump is Bob Hope.

[LessAspin]

16. Dearborn

In 2016 the Trump campaign targeted voters they knew could be swayed to vote third party as a protest vote or just not vote at all..

So those arguing that Stein didn't receive enough votes to make a difference miss the bigger point. It's as much if not more about turning off potential Democratic voters as it is about getting people to switch to Stein. Unfortunately it worked.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/105811897

[Wiz Imp]

35. A ridiculous argument

Total Stein voters in Michigan, 2024 = 44,537
Trump winning margin in Michigan = 79,564

If every single Stein voter has voted for Harris, Harris still wouldn't have won.

Stein being on the ballot made not a lick of difference in the results of this election and people complaining about her at this point just look like idiots.

[LessAspin]

39. Suppression

Which is why I posted that Stein getting votes was NOT the point.

Muddying the waters and turning off Democratic voters ie., Voter Suppression was the point.

Jill Stein siphoning off votes was just an added bonus.

[Wiz Imp]

44. But Stein has nothing to do with suppression efforts.

Otherwise, the logic would dictate that people wouldn't vote for Harris or Stein if Stein was on the ballot, but would vote for Harris if Stein was not on the ballot. Obviously, that makes no sense.

Sure Republicans do everything they can to suppress the vote, but that is not the point in running other candidates. The theoretical point in other people running is to have people vote for the others instead of the Democrat. For that to be a successful strategy in and of itself, than that other candidate would have exceed to winning vote margin. The only way Stein could be blamed for impacting Harris' loss is if her votes added to Harris would have made Harris the winner. Of course, that didn't happen

[Wiz Imp]

6. Why would anyone care?

She had zero impact on this election and will have zero impact on any election in the future.

[Mariana]

15. Nevertheless, we'll see more raging about the people who voted for her

than about the tens of millions of Trump voters.

[Wiz Imp]

34. In 2016, that was at least somewhat understandable

In a few states, the number of Stein voters exceeded the margin by which Trump beat Clinton. So at least you could argue that she may have had an impact - if she hadn't run, perhaps Clinton could have won those states.

However, this year nothing close to that happened in any state. Stein barely reached 0.5% of the total vote and just over 700,00 total votes. At this point, most of Stein's votes are for her or nobody. She's not taking votes away from anyone.

It's so easy to ignore her now. I mean, I don't see anyone complaining about Chase Oliver (the Libertarian candidate) even thouse he got nearly as many votes as Stein.

[EllieBC]

8. They must be as happy as they were in 2000.

Another election fucked up in the name of their “principles.”

[Mariana]

20. They didn't fuck up the election.

If every single 3rd party vote had gone for Harris instead, Trump still would have won the Electoral College.

[Wiz Imp]

45. It is absolutely maddening that people can't see this.

They arguably made a difference in 2000 and 2016 (amongst other possible elections), but NOT IN 2024!

[Blue_Tires]

48. She definitely didn't help...

[Johonny]

9. They only show up every 4 years to

Steal votes from the democratic party. I assume in-between they spend their time being actual Republicans.

[MineralMan]

10. Does anybody want to?

Jill Stein has probably already been rewarded by Putin. The Green Party is just nauseatingly colored. I can still smell Ralph Nader on it.

[Drum]

11. They're back in their coffins.

[Happy Hoosier]

14. Putin put her back into Cryosleep until 2028. NT

[Jit423]

17. Jill should be made Chair of the RNC

[GoodRaisin]

18. Stein is busy spending her Republican payoff.

[magicarpet]

30. Actually Jill Stein is water skiing on the Black Sea as a guest of Putin's massive luxury mansion at that location.

After a 2024 job well done. She dissuaded enough Dem voters to not even go to the polls but rather just sit 2024 out and let djt perform his magic for AmeriKKKa by winning his way back into the WH.

[SocialDemocrat61]

21. I've seen a few GreenMagats on social media

And they are gloating over Harris losing.

[Ysabel]

22. No and I don't care...

If I ever come across that one guy who was head of the Green Party here I'll probably ask him why he got a bunch of people to give him money and then went and skipped town...

What's her face (Jill Stein) acted like a snob when she visited our old co-op a few years back. She snubbed my husband (the VP there) while he was telling her how the co-op was run she just ignored him and walked away while he was talking - the creepy old snooty traitor...

[woodsprite]

27. Haven't heard a peep. They did what Putin wanted them to do and that was wean off voters. nt

[MichMan]

28. At least people here aren't throwing money at her for another fake recount like 2016.

[DFW]

29. Their work is done. What is left to hear?

They are probably enjoying a well-deserved expenses-paid vacation at Sochi.

[BamaRefugee]

31. Putin Heard from her " Where's my f****** check?"

[Mike Nelson]

32. Jill...

... Stein is an active member/poster on Twitter. She called the election of Trump a "failure of the two-party system." She was especially scornful of one party - Democrats. I did not read the whole post.

[Dem4life1234]

33. She seems like a narcissist with no soul

To me, she is equally as bad as a Rethug, same peas in a pod.

The new Ralph Nader. Probably worse because dumbasses actually vote for her.

[City Lights]

36. Who?

[LeftInTX]

40. I'm surprised she's not lining her pockets with a fake

recount scam

[Behind the Aegis]

41. Nyet!

Her job is done.

[The Third Doctor]

42. The people of Dearborn had four choices

Vote for Harris, Trump, third party or not vote. They did the last 3 more so than the first. Numerically Stein was not the overall reason for Harris losing but she did sow discord and pushed a narrative. I bet many in the area voted for Trump. I guess they forgot about the Muslim ban and Trump being friends with Bibi. I think more Rashida Tlaib can draw blame also. Plus don't forget those that voted in sympathy with the undecided movement.

[Blue_Tires]

43. Why would we? She's laughing all the way to the bank

And now she'll go into cold storage again until Moscow needs to thaw her out for 2028...