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highplainsdem

(52,350 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:16 AM Nov 13

I'd had no idea Maye Musk's father was a technocratic, anti-semitic, racist defender of apartheid

Last edited Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:24 AM - Edit history (1)

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_N._Haldeman

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Political activity in Canada

From 1936 to 1941, he was involved in Howard Scott's Technocracy Incorporated,[1][8][9] which led to his arrest on October 8, 1940 in Vancouver by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police on a charge of membership in an illegal organization.[10] He was returned to Regina and released on $8,000 bail;[11] at trial, he was fined for his role "writing, publishing, or circulating" a document titled "Statement of Patriotism by Those Who Were Technocrats", which the court deemed likely to cause "disaffection to His Majesty".[12][13]

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During that era, Haldeman formally made statements discouraging the previously prevalent antisemitism in the party.[16] However, he also gave a speech defending a decision by a party newspaper to publish the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an antisemitic forgery claiming an International Jewish conspiracy to rule the world. In his speech, Haldeman said “that the plan as outlined in these protocols has been rapidly unfolding in the period of observation of this generation.”[3] He would later claim apartheid South Africa was leading “White Christian Civilization” against the “International Conspiracy” of Jewish bankers and the “hordes of Coloured people” he claimed they controlled.[3]

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South Africa

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Haldeman was a supporter of South Africa's apartheid policies and the ruling National Party of South Africa, telling a reporter for the Die Transvaler newspaper: “Instead of the Government’s attitude keeping me out of South Africa, it had precisely the opposite effect—it encouraged me to come and settle here”.[3] In 1951, he wrote an article about South Africa for the Saskatchewan newspaper, the Regina Leader-Post, defending apartheid and writing of Black South Africans: “The natives are very primitive and must not be taken seriously... Some are quite clever in a routine job, but the best of them cannot assume responsibility and will abuse authority. The present government of South Africa knows how to handle the native question.”[3][18]

In later life, he self-published two books alleging international conspiracies: The International Conspiracy to Establish a World Dictatorship and the Menace to South Africa (1960) and "The International Conspiracy in Health", which cast suspicion on fluoridation, vaccinations, and health insurance.[3][19]

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And in case you wondered whether she distanced herself from her father - no:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maye_Musk

And see reply 1 below for more about him from a 2023 New Yorker article.
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I'd had no idea Maye Musk's father was a technocratic, anti-semitic, racist defender of apartheid (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 13 OP
More on Elon Musk's grandfather from a New Yorker article in September 2023...and if you wonder highplainsdem Thursday #1
Apartheid comes to America Kid Berwyn Thursday #2
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KNR, and bookmarking. Colour me soooooo NOT surprised. niyad Saturday #4

highplainsdem

(52,350 posts)
1. More on Elon Musk's grandfather from a New Yorker article in September 2023...and if you wonder
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:22 AM
Thursday

why I think it's relevant, it's because the Musks say very little about him, and as far as I know have never condemned his views. The Wikipedia article on Maye suggests she really admired him - "My parents were very famous, but they were never snobs," she said in a 2016 NYT interview - and Elon said very little about him to biographer Walter Isaacson, who just described Haldeman's politics as "quirky" - a horribly misleading understatement. Wikipedia says Maye had started helping her dad with newsletters already by the time she was 10, and unless he kept his political views from his children (very unlikely with a bigoted conspiracy theorist), she probably heard a lot about those views until his death. And she still admired him.

From The New Yorker:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-world-according-to-elon-musks-grandfather

Musk has said that he bought Twitter to halt the advance of a “woke mind virus” spreading online. His grandfather wrote his tracts to raise an alarm about what he called “mind control,” on the radio and television, where “an unconditional propaganda warfare is carried on against the White man.”

Haldeman was born in Minnesota in 1902 but grew up mostly in Saskatchewan, Canada. A daredevil aviator and sometime cowboy, he also trained and worked as a chiropractor. In the nineteen-thirties, he joined the quasi-fascistic Technocracy movement, whose proponents believed that scientists and engineers, rather than the people, should rule. He became a leader of the movement in Canada, and, when it was briefly outlawed, he was jailed, after which he became the national chairman of what was then a notoriously antisemitic party called Social Credit. In the nineteen-forties, he ran for office under its banner, and lost. In 1950, two years after South Africa instituted apartheid, he moved his family to Pretoria, where he became an impassioned defender of the regime.

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Haldeman railed against many dark forces that he believed to be propagating these ideas: Jewish bankers, Jewish intellectuals, philanthropic foundations run by Jews, communists, Black leaders, and anyone who supported the overthrow of colonial rule in Africa. “The facts of history show that the White man has always developed the country he inhabits to the benefit of all concerned,” he wrote, peddling stock apartheid propaganda, and “The Black people of Africa have been in close contact with civilization from the earliest times but, on their own, built nothing and discovered nothing, not even the wheel.”

In the second tract that M.S.U. holds, “The International Conspiracy in Health,” Haldeman blamed the “collectivist-internationalist” conspiracy—“from Kennedy to Kenyatta”—for “centralized health schemes” that include national health insurance and various pharmaceuticals (including fluoride in the water, another conspiracy), all of which he considered “anti-Christian infringements on human liberties.” If some people were not alarmed by all of this, he wrote, it was because of mind control. “When a Christian subscribes to this, it is the result of the concentrated, intentional brain-washing done by the International Conspiracy.” Submitting to national health care was one way the conspirators were allowing “Black or Coloured political puppets” to take “control of responsible White people.” The Conspiracy, he warned, controls universities, medical schools, and even textbooks. “The Conspiracy feels that any medical intervention, so long as it is in mass, is a desirable procedure.” Above all, “The promoters of World Government have always been behind mass vaccination programmes.”

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Kid Berwyn

(17,986 posts)
2. Apartheid comes to America
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:32 AM
Thursday

Musk really is full of shit-for-thinking. He’s just another racist turd without an original thought in his head or a beat of love in his heart. No wonder he has trump under his thumb.

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