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WhiskeyGrinder

(23,830 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:20 AM Nov 13

Yes, Elon Musk is influencing the incoming administration. He's been embedded in the government for years.

From 2023: Elon Musk's Shadow Rule

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule

Archive link: https://archive.ph/K4XDW

The meddling of oligarchs and other monied interests in the fate of nations is not new. During the First World War, J. P. Morgan lent vast sums to the Allied powers; afterward, John D. Rockefeller, Jr., poured money into the fledgling League of Nations. The investor George Soros’s Open Society Foundations underwrote civil-society reform in post-Soviet Europe, and the casino mogul Sheldon Adelson funded right-wing media in Israel, as part of his support of Benjamin Netanyahu.

But Musk’s influence is more brazen and expansive. There is little precedent for a civilian’s becoming the arbiter of a war between nations in such a granular way, or for the degree of dependency that the U.S. now has on Musk in a variety of fields, from the future of energy and transportation to the exploration of space. SpaceX is currently the sole means by which NASA transports crew from U.S. soil into space, a situation that will persist for at least another year. The government’s plan to move the auto industry toward electric cars requires increasing access to charging stations along America’s highways. But this rests on the actions of another Musk enterprise, Tesla. The automaker has seeded so much of the country with its proprietary charging stations that the Biden Administration relaxed an early push for a universal charging standard disliked by Musk. His stations are eligible for billions of dollars in subsidies, so long as Tesla makes them compatible with the other charging standard.

In the past twenty years, against a backdrop of crumbling infrastructure and declining trust in institutions, Musk has sought out business opportunities in crucial areas where, after decades of privatization, the state has receded. The government is now reliant on him, but struggles to respond to his risk-taking, brinkmanship, and caprice. Current and former officials from NASA, the Department of Defense, the Department of Transportation, the Federal Aviation Administration, and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration told me that Musk’s influence had become inescapable in their work, and several of them said that they now treat him like a sort of unelected official. One Pentagon spokesman said that he was keeping Musk apprised of my inquiries about his role in Ukraine and would grant an interview with an official about the matter only with Musk’s permission. “We’ll talk to you if Elon wants us to,” he told me. In a podcast interview last year, Musk was asked whether he has more influence than the American government. He replied immediately, “In some ways.” Reid Hoffman told me that Musk’s attitude is “like Louis XIV: ‘L’état, c’est moi.’ ”

Musk’s power continues to grow. His takeover of Twitter, which he has rebranded “X,” gives him a critical forum for political discourse ahead of the next Presidential election. He recently launched an artificial-intelligence company, a move that follows years of involvement in the technology. Musk has become a hyper-exposed pop-culture figure, and his sharp turns from altruistic to vainglorious, strategic to impulsive, have been the subject of innumerable articles and at least seven major books, including a forthcoming biography by Walter Isaacson. But the nature and the scope of his power are less widely understood.
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Yes, Elon Musk is influencing the incoming administration. He's been embedded in the government for years. (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Nov 13 OP
The US has been an oligarchy for quite some time. Irish_Dem Nov 13 #1
So Eloony is actually the shadow president. Autumn Nov 13 #2
Absolutely, gab13by13 Nov 13 #8
Hate him Johnny2X2X Nov 13 #3
How are billionaires not national security threats? leftstreet Nov 13 #4
K&R Solly Mack Nov 13 #5
He WILL overstep and baby trump will see him as a threat. louis-t Nov 13 #6
Trump can't ever go against Musk, gab13by13 Nov 13 #9
I give him 18 months flamingdem Nov 13 #7
Trump will just be a figure head president gab13by13 Nov 13 #10
afternoon kick WhiskeyGrinder Nov 13 #11
evening kick WhiskeyGrinder Nov 13 #12

Irish_Dem

(57,317 posts)
1. The US has been an oligarchy for quite some time.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:23 AM
Nov 13

They don't even bother to hide it any more.
Right out in the open.

Johnny2X2X

(21,745 posts)
3. Hate him
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:27 AM
Nov 13

I think he's border line a sociopath who enjoys hurting people. But I do think there's a grain i=of him that does actually care deeply about climate change, so I hold out hope he can have a positive influence there.

gab13by13

(25,221 posts)
9. Trump can't ever go against Musk,
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:13 AM
Nov 13

Putin calls the shots and he reminded Trump of that when he posted those nude photos of Melania. Musk will allow Trump to grift and golf.

flamingdem

(39,912 posts)
7. I give him 18 months
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:56 AM
Nov 13

Then "You're fired!"

But seriously Elon is in bed with Putin so he's got some kind of leverage on Trump in addition to Putin's regular leverage.

gab13by13

(25,221 posts)
10. Trump will just be a figure head president
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:15 AM
Nov 13

If you were Putin would you want a 78 year old mentally ill and fast declining person as president or Musk?

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