NO THE VOTE WAS NOT HACKED BY STARLINK

[ColinC]

GOOD GRIEF PEOPLE GET IT TOGETHER!


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/nov/12/threads-posts/no-elon-musks-starlink-wasnt-used-to-rig-the-2024/

Federal and state election officials rebutted claims of widespread fraud in the 2024 election, including claims that Elon Musk’s satellite internet provider Starlink manipulated the vote counts. They said there are longstanding systems to ensure votes are fairly and accurately tabulated.

The swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have election security protocols that ensure voting equipment is never connected to the internet during ballot tabulation. And broadly speaking, voting machines are not connected to the internet, experts said.

A Starlink satellite reentered Earth’s atmosphere Nov. 10 and exploded. Experts said such reentries have been happening almost daily for the past few years and are not noteworthy.

[GreenWave]

1. What about GOP huge majority in early voting?

Could they hack the signature verification pages?

[ColinC]

3. They could send godzilla with the weather machine to destroy all of it

But alas there is no evidence of either

[WarGamer]

13. Post of the Day AWARD. thanks...

[dsc]

2. We don't even have machines in NC

we vote on paper and the paper is fed into a counter (think a glorified scan tron).

[Lancero]

4. A lot of people have been buying pillows recently.

[Amishman]

14. I had to buy a new one, I had a dream about eating a giant marshmallow

And when I woke up, my pillow was gone!

[orangecrush]

5. Which federal and state election officials did they ask

And I see they aren't refuting that Starlink was involved on the process of vote tally.

Not saying there was, but this doesn't disprove anything imo.

[ColinC]

11. The burden of proof isnt on them.

It's on the people making a serious accusation. All anybody can say is whether there is or isn't evidence of such a thing. And we all agree there is no evidence of such a thing.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

20. Saying that tabulators

aren’t connected to the internet during vote counting is saying that Starlink wasn’t involved in the vote counting.

[Sympthsical]

6. It's really something to watch

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[travelingthrulife]

7. We do not know that this or some other fraud did not happen

All this is saying is that traditional means of detecting fraud are not seeing it.

[ColinC]

10. I think we should worry whether pterodactyls had time machines and flying cars.

We do not know that they did not.

[Phoenix61]

8. Thank you but it seems to be easier for people to

believe starlink was used to hack the vote than that we are surrounded by idiots.

[ColinC]

9. We are surrounded by idiots.

Our edumacation system has failed miserable`

[Mariana]

18. It has failed for a very long time.

People of all ages came out for Trump.

The over-65's did shift a little bit more toward the blue than before, so they're about 50-50 rather than the majority for Trump as before. I wonder if Covid had anything to do with that. Republican voters were less likely to be vaccinated or to take any precautions, and of course most people who die of Covid are older.

[TheKentuckian]

12. This!

A bunch of stone cold traitorous morons just refused to vote for whatever nonsense rationale...Gaza/sexist/couldn't "hear" any policies/mad she campaigned with Cheney/racist/lazy as fuck combined with a sliver shifting to Agolf due to a brain cell, morality, and spiritual deficit disorder.

[totodeinhere]

22. Refusing to vote does mean they are traitorous morons.

Do you seriously think that not voting qualifies as treason? Come on now.

Yes, I too am sorry that so many refused to vote. But many people just could not vote for Harris because she is a part of an administration that has refused to stop Israel from committing genocide in Gaza. And some just could not fathom Harris's embrace of war criminal Dick Cheney and his war mongering daughter. However, if they did not vote for Kamala because of either sexism or racism then I will will join you in condemning that. But even that does not make them traitors.

[totodeinhere]

24. I am not going to say fuck you to half of the country.

And if we embrace your attitude we will never get their votes back.

I will follow the lead of Kamala Harris. We need unity in this country. Saying fuck you to half the country is never going to get us there.

"Harris urges unity in concession speech." https://tinyurl.com/4jr4auyv

[TheKentuckian]

25. You and Harris are free to do as you please. It has worked super well so far.

I'm not begging or even asking the garbage motherfuckers anything ever again except to eat shit and die.

I'm at war because they started one and won't handwaive enemy action in the name of comity or so dumbass white people can have plausible deniability that they can enjoy Thanksgiving with toxic waste and stupid fucks they call kin.

[totodeinhere]

26. I completely understand why you are so bitter and angry.

I will leave it at that.

[beaglelover]

15. K&R

[LetMyPeopleVote]

16. FACT FOCUS: Election officials knock down Starlink vote rigging conspiracy theories

I have been active in voter protection since 2004. I have been an election judge on several occasions and have been a poll watcher for the central counting tabulation room. The voter check in systems are hooked to the internet to check voter registrations and to code the paper ballots as to what elections are to be voted on by that voter. The machines where the voter make their selections and mark the paper ballots and the machines that tabulate these votes are not connected to the internet. As an election judge, we had to put up all of the machines other than the machine that tabulates the vote. Those machines were hand transported to either a designated drop off place or to the central election office where the machines were given to the machines that further complied the vote. There was a paper trail when we drop off the machines at either location.

I agree with these election experts

Link to tweet

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-election-starlink-musk-steal-trump-38757341656d4f44243076d6356cb68b

Here’s a closer look at the facts.

CLAIM: Billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk used his internet provider Starlink to steal the 2024 election for President-elect Donald Trump.

THE FACTS: These claims are unfounded. Election officials, including from multiple swing states, told The Associated Press that their voting equipment doesn’t use Starlink and is not even connected to the internet. States have additional security measures to ensure that the count is accurate, according to experts. Election officials and security agencies have reported no significant issues with the 2024 race.

“It is not possible that Starlink was used to hack or change the outcome of the US presidential election,” David Becker, founder and executive director of The Center for Election Innovation and Research, wrote in an email. “This, quite simply, did not happen, and could not happen, thanks to the security measures we have in place, and these conspiracy theories echo other disinformation we’ve heard over the past several years.”

Becker further explained that the country’s nearly 10,000 election jurisdictions use a wide range of voting machines that are not connected to the internet while voting occurs and that nearly all votes are recorded on paper ballots, which are audited by hand to confirm the results of electronic tabulators.

“If anyone tried to interfere with the machines to rig the election, it would be discovered through multiple means, including reconciling the registered voters who cast ballots with the number of votes, as well as the audits,” he added.

[ColinC]

17. Thank you!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

19. I have had the experience of taking the critical machine to the drop off site and to central election office

The lawyer in my loved the paper trail that we had to document the transfer of these machines to the drop off. I have had the fun of watching the central ballot tabulation room as machines were brought in and signed for. There are careful procedures in place and the internet is not involved

[totodeinhere]

21. I am disappointed that some on the left are buying into crazy conspiracy theories just like the right does.

Does anyone in their right mind seriously think that Kamala Harris and the DNC would not be crying foul if there were any possibility that some of these conspiracy theories about Trump stealing the election might even have the slightest chance of being true? Come on now people. Get a grip. It's over we lost.

[bucolic_frolic]

27. Tabulation is a different activity than collection.

They could expand their reassurance to include chain of custody, observors, lock and key and the like.

Swing states were targeted by both campaigns. Trump was confident enough to state he had "the votes" and to fill his rallies with dance numbers rather than campaigning. Maybe he was that confident in their online ads and mailing operations. Who knows.

[paleotn]

28. The reentry over TX was a coincidence.

Starlink satellites are decommissioned regularly, simply because there's so damn many of them. See map at link.

https://satellitemap.space/

So, one being decommissioned via reentry at any specific time is just a coincidence. Plus, wiping and replacing code in a satellite's systems to cover something untoward is easy. No destruction required. Beyond that, there's just not any evidence so far. Lots of undervotes that still bother me, but then again, Elmo was literally buying them. Legit votes since they had to register or be registered. He was buying those too. My problem is how the hell is that not a violation of US Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 29 - 597? Yet, our vaunted AG, Merrick Garland, did nothing. Absolutely, positively...nothing. Far as I know, Garland was hiding under his bed. May still be.

[Cirsium]

29. It is such an embarrassment

This Starlink story is such an embarrassment. It is just stupefying that it keeps coming up here.

In order for vote totals to be surreptitiously changed by Starlink - or any other Internet service provider - the Internet would need to be involved somehow in the vote counting process. But the Internet is not involved, other than to post results. That is completely separate from the vote counting process.

If a meal you cooked turned out badly would you blame that on your ISP because you had previously posted your recipe to the Internet???

Damn, it is mind numbing that this stuff is being spread here, among Democrats, people who are relatively intelligent and well informed, people who are using the Internet to post this nonsense. This is shameful.

No wonder everything is going to hell. No wonder a psychopathic maniac was elected to run the country.