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ck4829

(35,904 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:04 AM Nov 11

It's funny how these billionaires are supposedly so smart and so successful, and yet nobody will *ever* say...

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we finally have universal healthcare"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we eradicated measles/polio/HIV/cancer"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we have free college"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we have a truly responsive and participatory democracy that is the envy of the world"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we have eliminated childhood hunger"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we no longer have the 'freedom' of going bankrupt from medical bills"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we really are #1 in education/healthcare/infrastructure/anything really"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we no longer have to put off health checks or therapy because of a fear of the cost"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we finally have Putin facing accountability in the Hague"

"Thanks to these billionaires influencing our politics, we have housing for all"

I am confident that these phrases will never appear out of our media, because they will never happen because billionaires influenced our politics. I am so confident in this that you can save this, bookmark this, print it out, posters and lurkers alike, keep it handy because the first person who shows me a something that does in fact demonstrate one of these things, I will PayPal or Zelle them MONEY.

The hunt is on.

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It's funny how these billionaires are supposedly so smart and so successful, and yet nobody will *ever* say... (Original Post) ck4829 Nov 11 OP
Thanks to billionaires we have poverty and homelessness Turbineguy Nov 11 #1
... poverty and homelessness... magicarpet Nov 11 #3
You're right! ReRe Nov 11 #18
Now the great thing about having lots of money Turbineguy Nov 11 #26
Well ReRe Nov 11 #29
They are mentally ill. If you have everything you could ever want or need materially and still MadameButterfly Nov 11 #36
That is so true ReRe Thursday #38
Billionaires are not a monolithic bloc. Many have donated to many of those causes. TwilightZone Nov 11 #2
It's ten ways to prove me wrong. Question is - will they? ck4829 Nov 11 #5
Billionaires BigMin28 Nov 11 #6
Exactly Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #9
How evil do you have to be to attack the elderly poor?.nt jfz9580m Nov 11 #10
And they only donate when the tax consequence is beneficial to them. nt in2herbs Nov 11 #33
Nice tax break for them though. travelingthrulife Nov 11 #27
But not enough orangecrush Nov 11 #31
You're so right. Magoo48 Nov 11 #4
GREED IS A DISEASE. Xoan Nov 11 #7
It's also observably degenerative. dchill Nov 11 #20
If their main concern was helping others... rubbersole Nov 11 #8
BINGO! OldBaldy1701E Nov 11 #14
Thanks to these billionaires SCantiGOP Nov 11 #11
Many billionaires also donated to VP Harris. republianmushroom Nov 11 #16
"When you have so much money, you can bet on both teams." dchill Nov 11 #19
Do you think Taylor Swift donated to both teams ? republianmushroom Nov 11 #22
I do not. dchill Nov 11 #24
Well good on 'em ReRe Nov 11 #32
Well, they're fucked too; they just don't know it yet. ananda Nov 11 #12
I have told a few people this: lastlib Nov 11 #13
Because it is not about 'smarts'. OldBaldy1701E Nov 11 #17
To your last point..... lastlib Nov 11 #21
What the billionaires don't look at is Jarqui Nov 11 #15
Actually, it's a twofer - they're just scavengers. dchill Nov 11 #23
It is one thing to fight for your people - to defend a Constitution Jarqui Nov 11 #28
Ive never been so happy to be on the losing side of things! PortTack Nov 11 #25
Damn straight orangecrush Nov 11 #30
Why should they? It's up to the people to make them pay, and live love laugh Nov 11 #34
And this is how it starts. We can label it and organize around it. Call it the billionaire challenge. ck4829 Nov 12 #37
All the money in the world Blue Full Moon Nov 11 #35

magicarpet

(16,504 posts)
3. ... poverty and homelessness...
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:14 AM
Nov 11

... you ain't seen nothing yet,... wait until Project 2025 is fully implemented.

ReRe

(10,775 posts)
18. You're right!
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:35 PM
Nov 11

They could wipe poverty and homelessness away in this country (if not the world),

and have billions LEFT!!! How many effing billions does one need for God's sake!

ReRe

(10,775 posts)
29. Well
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:40 PM
Nov 11

that's about the only thing one could construe, isn't it?

Evil MFers!

And I betcha a wide majority of the 1% are aboard the "great replacement theory" humvee,

which is getting ready to roll down the the streets of our country.

There used to be a song (guess there still is) from an old Broadway play that went:

"Money makes the world go 'round, the world go 'round, the world go 'round...".

I think money is going to make the world STOP!

MadameButterfly

(1,690 posts)
36. They are mentally ill. If you have everything you could ever want or need materially and still
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 11:38 PM
Nov 11

you want take money from struggling people to have more instead of experiencing the joy of giving, loving, making the world a better place...you don't have a clue what happiness, life, is all about.

ReRe

(10,775 posts)
38. That is so true
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:12 AM
Thursday

They really do live in another world up there. Life is so full down on the ground where the majority of us live.

TwilightZone

(28,833 posts)
2. Billionaires are not a monolithic bloc. Many have donated to many of those causes.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:09 AM
Nov 11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacKenzie_Scott#Philanthropy

Warren Buffett has donated 30% of his wealth and plans to donate nearly all the rest in his lifetime.

George Soros has donated more than $30 billion to various causes.

Michael Bloomberg, more than $10 billion.

Other billionaires committed to the Giving Pledge.

https://givingpledge.org/about

Blanket statements are rarely accurate, and not everything has a binary answer.

BigMin28

(1,458 posts)
6. Billionaires
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:23 AM
Nov 11

Do donate to their pet causes, with much control. Have you ever heard one truly advocate for anything that would help people. No. They concern themselves budgets and tax cuts that help them.

Farmer-Rick

(11,399 posts)
9. Exactly
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 11:44 AM
Nov 11

They pick and choose what horror of society they will give their excess stolen loot to. They really don't just hand it out to hungry people or to make for a better society. They pick the charities that help them.

Like the Pete Peterson foundation. A tax deductible charity that wants to eliminate social security as we know it. It was founded by dead billionaire Pete Peterson and his son. It is still trying to end Social Security. They may get their way.

Magoo48

(5,341 posts)
4. You're so right.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:15 AM
Nov 11

They are a socioeconomic indictment of our extraction capitalism, and they are an embarrassment to those believing in our common welfare.

ReRe

(10,775 posts)
32. Well good on 'em
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:53 PM
Nov 11

but couldn't they have grabbed a bunch of other billionaires to fork over a buck or two also?

They've all got telephones just like you and me. Billionaires all run around in their own

orbit up there, after all.

ananda

(30,813 posts)
12. Well, they're fucked too; they just don't know it yet.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 11:50 AM
Nov 11

This will be what is called a Pyrrhic Victory.

lastlib

(24,902 posts)
13. I have told a few people this:
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:05 PM
Nov 11

"If you're so RICH, why aren't you SMART?"

You might think I have a bit of contempt for rich people. You're probably right.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,338 posts)
17. Because it is not about 'smarts'.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:30 PM
Nov 11

It is about greed and sub-human devolution. One just cannot have that much money without a level of socioeconomic damage to others to get it. The small businesses and those who just do their thing have no chance against someone who does not care about the fact that they are a fellow human being and once that detachment from humanity is achieved, it fuels their ever-growing horde.

(You may notice I have some contempt for them as well. I feel it is deserved. I bet you do, too. For the rest, I can tell you this... you want to understand where we are coming from, go work retail/food service in a very exclusive part of town. You'll be begging for the guillotines within a month. The level of entitlement and lack of humanity is nauseating.)

lastlib

(24,902 posts)
21. To your last point.....
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:52 PM
Nov 11

I did investment-related work for 27 years, encountered MANY fairly wealthy individuals. A HUGE percentage of them were absolute assholes, so yeah, I could grease up a guillotine or three (or five--for efficiency's sake....) You are spot-on with that.

dchill

(40,469 posts)
23. Actually, it's a twofer - they're just scavengers.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:55 PM
Nov 11

Tearing down democracy is part of the plan. They're SO smart.

Jarqui

(10,487 posts)
28. It is one thing to fight for your people - to defend a Constitution
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:22 PM
Nov 11

But another to fight for an authoritarian who doesn't give a crap about you
See desertion assessment of Russian forces ....

Would not surprise me to see another Weather Underground pop up as Trump veers out of control.

live love laugh

(14,398 posts)
34. Why should they? It's up to the people to make them pay, and
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:35 PM
Nov 11

a large swath of The People are uneducated and brainwashed.

ck4829

(35,904 posts)
37. And this is how it starts. We can label it and organize around it. Call it the billionaire challenge.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:30 AM
Nov 12

The way I see it is: I have money. People like money. Someone points out to me that one of those ten things is clearly taking place because of Musk, Bezos, and company. I give that someone that money.

Blue Full Moon

(1,153 posts)
35. All the money in the world
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:57 PM
Nov 11

All the money they wasted on getting trump elected would have covered most of what was on that list. The money doesn't flow down it goes up. We have got to quit buying and giving them our money to use against us. But the billionaires look at it as we have their money and they should be allowed to do as they please to us.

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