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Nevilledog

(55,080 posts)
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 02:54 PM Mar 2024

This is how you reach a Union member who supports Trump





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This is HUGE! 🔥

This union worker for Trump was just shown that Trump is for right to work, in his own words, and admitted he would vote for Biden after learning that!

Make sure everyone sees this!


11:41 AM · Mar 9, 2024
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This is how you reach a Union member who supports Trump (Original Post) Nevilledog Mar 2024 OP
May it be so. TSExile Mar 2024 #1
Biden needs to run big on union position. Lots of ads with him rainy Mar 2024 #2
It's so hard to persuade these Republicans they are so locked in on an anti-Democratic Party mindset Walleye Mar 2024 #3
Biden walked the f?$&ing picket line with the UAW. Bleacher Creature Mar 2024 #4
CORRECT! And even worse, MyOwnPeace Mar 2024 #6
The Fox News cave, most likely. nt Wednesdays Mar 2024 #14
I think a LOT like this guy pay ZERO Grown2Hate Mar 2024 #22
They get a lot of their information from the guy at the end of the bar. mobeau69 Mar 2024 #29
traitortrump is a scab. He's always been a scab. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2024 #5
He certainly IS a scab..... and has always been one...... MyOwnPeace Mar 2024 #8
And here's the appropriate strike poster for *rump: NBachers Mar 2024 #16
So True and Nazis are anti-Union Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #37
Two things here: misanthrope Mar 2024 #7
Fact is Dump said that, years ago! Over and over. Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #33
Every time a trump supporter says "He's fighting for us", I want the reporter to follow up with "tell me how" tulipsandroses Mar 2024 #9
Good point there......... MyOwnPeace Mar 2024 #27
Day-YUM!!! Seinan Sensei Mar 2024 #10
Exactly! Responding logically to evidence is not their forte. Lucky Luciano Mar 2024 #21
I keep saying, a union person voting for any (R) is an idiot. ... aggiesal Mar 2024 #11
Exactly right Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #38
You're telling the truth. And sometimes the truth is harsh. calimary Mar 2024 #46
Good to know. Thanks! beveeheart Mar 2024 #12
mind-numbing krkaufman Mar 2024 #13
shithole and the GQP hate unions............................. Lovie777 Mar 2024 #15
GQP has always hated unions, forever. That is not news. What an idiot to not know that Bush was attacking unions. lindysalsagal Mar 2024 #17
Damn straight. Unions built this country. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2024 #18
NYC Union construction Shermanator Mar 2024 #19
Well, when stinking Trump follows his Nazi inclinations Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #39
Does he also know these things? mgardener Mar 2024 #20
That guy looks to be about 40. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2024 #23
The point of belonging to a labor union used to be economic self interest, members voted for pro-union sop Mar 2024 #24
Yeah, how did that happen? Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #40
Both. calimary Mar 2024 #47
I worked in union shops for most of my working life NanaCat Mar 2024 #25
Didn't Donald give the Border Guards/Patrol a union to give them more power? keithbvadu2 Mar 2024 #26
No, that Union has been around for awhile Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #41
I need something a little stronger SouthernDem4ever Mar 2024 #28
In my union shop I hear things like ... hydrolastic Mar 2024 #30
If that's who union people are, maybe I should be anti-union?! I certainly wouldn't want to be on the same side Lucky Luciano Mar 2024 #34
But these are people of the land.... SouthernDem4ever Mar 2024 #49
Do you Rebl2 Mar 2024 #44
But you're IN THERE, fighting the Good Fight. calimary Mar 2024 #48
I say it often and always to everyone. Bluethroughu Mar 2024 #31
YAY! I forgot Cha Mar 2024 #32
Right to work laws Farmer-Rick Mar 2024 #42
Oh wow... very well explained.. TY! Union members who support TSF better Cha Mar 2024 #50
Staged masmdu Mar 2024 #35
I agree demosincebirth Mar 2024 #36
There will Rebl2 Mar 2024 #43
"I'm a Union guy. The Union is most important..." Grins Mar 2024 #45

rainy

(6,321 posts)
2. Biden needs to run big on union position. Lots of ads with him
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:07 PM
Mar 2024

on the picket line and Shawn Fain singing Biden's praises.

Walleye

(44,804 posts)
3. It's so hard to persuade these Republicans they are so locked in on an anti-Democratic Party mindset
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:07 PM
Mar 2024

They have to be persuaded one at a time, and only if only if the issue touches them personally, and then they’re liable to forget by election day because somebody said Biden took bribes or something. Or sniffed somebody’s hair or something. And their macho buddies are gonna laugh at them if they find out they support Biden

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
4. Biden walked the f?$&ing picket line with the UAW.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:38 PM
Mar 2024

He's the most pro-union President in a century, if not ever. I'm glad this guy saw the light, but how did it take until now?

MyOwnPeace

(17,552 posts)
6. CORRECT! And even worse,
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:49 PM
Mar 2024

IQ45 also 'claimed' that he was at a rally with auto workers - and THAT rally had PAID STOOGES holding up tRUMP signs - and the whole place was NON-UNION!

Seriously, what cave has this 'union guy' been living in?

Grown2Hate

(2,216 posts)
22. I think a LOT like this guy pay ZERO
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 2024

attention to news. If they hear ANYTHING, it's word of mouth, and Koresh knows where that comes from. I have a friend like that (unfortunately) that just remains apolitical, refuses to vote, and refuses to engage or follow anything political.

This is that "mushy middle" that just pays ZERO attention. The Fox News junkies and standard MAGATs aren't reachable (not without so much time and effort that it would make it worthless). THESE people are.

MyOwnPeace

(17,552 posts)
8. He certainly IS a scab..... and has always been one......
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:56 PM
Mar 2024

but he's not just a scab, he's a hemorrhoid that's been a PAIN-IN-THE-ASS to this country for too long!

And here is the "PREPERATION" that will work on him: Having his hair (whatever of that 'thing' on his head really is) cut in preparation for entry into a US Federal Prison!

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
37. So True and Nazis are anti-Union
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:21 AM
Mar 2024

The German Nazis banned Unions.

"On 2 May 1933, Nazis stormtroopers raided trade union buildings throughout Germany. Union leaders were abducted, imprisoned, and tortured. And union assets and properties were seized. Independent trade unions were replaced with a Nazi-controlled German Labour Front, which served as a propaganda tool for the regime and its hate-filled ideology.

The Nazi ban on free trade unions not only deprived workers of collective bargaining and representation, it also removed a bastion of democracy and freedom that stood in the way of the Nazis’ total control over German society. It was an early step in their rule of terror and antisemitism."

https://www.tuc.org.uk/blogs/ninety-years-nazi-ban-free-trade-unions-lessons-remain-relevant-us-today#:~:text=Pastor%20Niem%C3%B6ller's%20poem%2C%20First%20they,a%20scale%20never%20seen%20before.

Any union that supports Trump is ignorant and too lazy to look up common history.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
7. Two things here:
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 03:55 PM
Mar 2024

1) Hardcore GOP and MAGA would claim this man was an actor and dismiss the video.

2) After AI video proceeds a little further, it will become easy for bad actors to generate effective propaganda. The doubt about the validity of information will have a destructive effect on self-governance. It could amplify the effects we already see of retreat to information silos and subsequent polarization.

Bluethroughu

(7,215 posts)
33. Fact is Dump said that, years ago! Over and over.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 10:45 PM
Mar 2024

It is him, and he means it. His flags are NOT made in America. He hires slave labor. His policies for Labor were non-existent along with appointments to head Dept of labor and NLRB that were Right-wing nuts that hate labor.

He's a f_$%ing scab oozing pewtrid inhumanity.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
9. Every time a trump supporter says "He's fighting for us", I want the reporter to follow up with "tell me how"
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 04:14 PM
Mar 2024

Last edited Sat Mar 9, 2024, 09:35 PM - Edit history (1)

His answer about “I’m not a political guy” is so telling. It’s a damn cult and a bigoted one. Has nothing to do with him fighting for anyone. They like that he hates who they hate.

I don’t know how many of them are like this guy.

I'm a cynic, I think, even after understanding this, they would still vote for Trump. Then hope he hurts other people more than he hurts them.

MyOwnPeace

(17,552 posts)
27. Good point there.........
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 08:39 PM
Mar 2024

heaven knows we wouldn't want to 'offend' anyone willing to listen to anything other than our lame BULLSHIT-BOTH SIDES stuff!

Lucky Luciano

(11,863 posts)
21. Exactly! Responding logically to evidence is not their forte.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:32 PM
Mar 2024

Hence, this is probably an actor, but still a good representation of how logical thinking would commence.

aggiesal

(10,803 posts)
11. I keep saying, a union person voting for any (R) is an idiot. ...
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 04:30 PM
Mar 2024

Last edited Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Sorry to be so harsh, but they have to understand what (R)'s are all about and pro-union is not one of them.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
38. Exactly right
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:27 AM
Mar 2024

Trump supporters are mostly Nazis. Unions leaders were one of the first people the Nazis captured, tortured and murdered.

When Trump is put in as dick-tatter, do you think he'll be any different? His father was a Nazi scum and he is a Nazi scum.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
46. You're telling the truth. And sometimes the truth is harsh.
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 02:01 PM
Mar 2024

So says this lifelong union member (SAG/AFTRA).

krkaufman

(13,961 posts)
13. mind-numbing
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 04:41 PM
Mar 2024

Just mind-numbing how anyone who prioritizes unions could vote GOP or, worse, Trump.

lindysalsagal

(22,910 posts)
17. GQP has always hated unions, forever. That is not news. What an idiot to not know that Bush was attacking unions.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:10 PM
Mar 2024
 

Shermanator

(45 posts)
19. NYC Union construction
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:23 PM
Mar 2024

I work in construction in New York City and there are a ton of construction workers who support Trump. Right to work would not change their minds because the biggest thing to them is the migrants who they believe are going to take their jobs. Also, a lot of them are traditionally conservative and would vote for an anti-union Republican over a pro-union Democrat because they know unions will be a big part of the city, regardless of who's in office.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
39. Well, when stinking Trump follows his Nazi inclinations
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:31 AM
Mar 2024

Unions can say bye-bye. Unions were one of the first people the Nazis captured, tortured and killed. Hope they like their beds sleeping with Nazis.

mgardener

(2,360 posts)
20. Does he also know these things?
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:24 PM
Mar 2024

How Trump hired undocumented workers at his business's?

How Trump and Ivanka built factories in China, hired Chinese workers, instead of building and hiring Americans?

https://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/21/how-donald-trump-ditched-us-steel-workers-china-505717.html

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
23. That guy looks to be about 40.
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 05:53 PM
Mar 2024

So he was a young kid when our former union president Reagan, Republican, went after the air traffic controllers' union.. Others followed and the middle class has yet to recover. And to prevent that recovery they pay huge bucks to right leaning media personalities to keep them in the dark. Just imagine the amount of money spent to keep us ignorant.

sop

(18,618 posts)
24. The point of belonging to a labor union used to be economic self interest, members voted for pro-union
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 06:03 PM
Mar 2024

Democrats no matter what their views on other issues. At some point RW cultural grievance replaced economic self-interest as the defining political motivation of a lot of union guys.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
40. Yeah, how did that happen?
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:35 AM
Mar 2024

Was it massive propaganda or dumbing down of education? Or was it that corruption was never prosecuted?

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
25. I worked in union shops for most of my working life
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 06:50 PM
Mar 2024

It never ceased to amaze me how many of my fellow workers were GQP. Always white men.

It was the rare woman or minority (or increasingly both) who was that bloody daft.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
41. No, that Union has been around for awhile
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:38 AM
Mar 2024

"The National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) is a labor union established in 1967" wiki.....

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
28. I need something a little stronger
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 08:56 PM
Mar 2024

I work with dolts who think they are completely entitled to their wages and benefits that other people lost their houses for. Some don't even join or pay dues because they are so brainwashed by the repuglican party and Fux Nooze. For some of them it's all about the gunz. They don't care about anyone but themselves.

hydrolastic

(547 posts)
30. In my union shop I hear things like ...
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 10:17 PM
Mar 2024

"Trump must be doing something if the democrats are going after him so hard!"
"Gas was cheap and my 401 k went up"
"Democrats are after our guns"
If I say anything against Trump they knock on the sources CNN is not a valid source. MSNBC is not a valid source. To them anything against trump is misinformation.
I did have some fun with them last week I kept reminding them how fragile amendments are if the 14th which is plain as day can't be enforced. One guy understood what I was getting at and said "They are strong where they need to be "
Another guy who has a bazillion kids loved it for the few months we had the child tax credit. He was telling the crew "it was something the republicans were doing" I straightened him out immediately telling him "not a single republican voted for it."
I told him last week "They are talking about bringing it back, "But oh yea your a republican and will vote against it !"
Its endless really, Its from years and years of indoctrination from the right. Fox News. Their feed on Facebook
I am outnumbered four or five to one.

Lucky Luciano

(11,863 posts)
34. If that's who union people are, maybe I should be anti-union?! I certainly wouldn't want to be on the same side
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 11:48 PM
Mar 2024

…as those fucksticks. I mean if 4/5 - a full 80% are scumbags, why would I want to do what is in their best interests?

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
49. But these are people of the land....
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 03:47 PM
Mar 2024

You know, Morons! Actually saying 80% is a bit high. I would say 20% going by personal experience. There are still plenty that realize unions are getting them a better living - we just have to keep reminding them why. The only way I can do it is to remind them what it was like before unions and why they even have OSHA laws which would not exist otherwise. There are always some fucksticks that are too self-centered to care. I end up hearing them spew sovereign citizen crap and the like. The most difficult thing to get across to them is that "NOT ONE REPUGLICAN" has ever voted for anything pro labor or pro union.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
48. But you're IN THERE, fighting the Good Fight.
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 02:13 PM
Mar 2024

Especially since they’re willingly exposing themselves to only one side of the story, a slanted propaganda campaign. If they CHOOSE to watch Pox Noise, I’m tempted to think they felt that way from the beginning and prefer Pox Noise because it reinforces what they already believe. So they get strength and validation that way.

There’s also the dynamic of “well they couldn’t say those things if they weren’t true” at work here.

THAT’S why we DARE NOT and CANNOT stay silent. And YES I’m SHOUTING!!!!!

Cha

(319,069 posts)
32. YAY! I forgot
Sat Mar 9, 2024, 10:44 PM
Mar 2024

What Right to work entails? I know it’s not good for Workers!

💙🌊🇺🇸🕊️🕯️

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
42. Right to work laws
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:52 AM
Mar 2024

Are designed to bankrupt labor Unions.

It requires Unions to defend and support employees who don't pay dues and are not members.

If you feel your boss is not calculating your pay accurately, and there is a Union where you work, they must represent your interest in the dispute, if you ask them.

You don't have to be a member and so you don't have to pay dues. You get free rights and privileges the same as dues paying members. By wasting time and money on non-members, the Union slowly goes bankrupt. And that's how Unions disappeared.

Rebl2

(17,740 posts)
43. There will
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 10:57 AM
Mar 2024

always be union members that vote against their own best interests. My husband, before he retired, worked with people that only voted republican, yet they were a union member. Go figure.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
45. "I'm a Union guy. The Union is most important..."
Sun Mar 10, 2024, 01:11 PM
Mar 2024

His words!

He opened with that, and when shown the position of the orange demagogue - and his entire party - ‘had to think about it.’

I will never understand why so many people vote against their own best interests.

Nice post.

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