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Nevilledog

(55,078 posts)
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 05:10 PM Dec 2023

Recordings, emails show how Trump team flew fake elector ballots to DC in final push to overturn 2020 election

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/28/politics/recordings-trump-team-fake-elector-ballots/index.html

CNN

Two days before the January 6 insurrection, the Trump campaign’s plan to use fake electors to block President-elect Joe Biden from taking office faced a potentially crippling hiccup: The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail.

So, Trump campaign operatives scrambled to fly copies of the phony certificates from Michigan and Wisconsin to the nation’s capital, relying on a haphazard chain of couriers, as well as help from two Republicans in Congress, to try to get the documents to then-Vice President Mike Pence while he presided over the Electoral College certification.

The operatives even considered chartering a jet to ensure the files reached Washington, DC, in time for the January 6, 2021, proceeding, according to emails and recordings obtained by CNN.

The new details provide a behind-the-scenes glimpse of the chaotic last-minute effort to keep Donald Trump in office. The fake electors scheme features prominently in special counsel Jack Smith’s criminal indictment against the former president, and some of the officials who were involved have spoken to Smith’s investigators.

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Recordings, emails show how Trump team flew fake elector ballots to DC in final push to overturn 2020 election (Original Post) Nevilledog Dec 2023 OP
Big trouble for trump and many of his operatives...probably some legislators too. brush Dec 2023 #1
Ron Johnson has a private jet... kentuck Dec 2023 #13
Exactly! RoJo as he is called by us WI liberals. Married into a Wisconsin corporate family. IMO he would be humping... usaf-vet Dec 2023 #32
Isn't that mail fraud? maxrandb Dec 2023 #2
Knowing DJT, he prolly broke the law for the financial aspects of transporting the ballots as well, I would guess. BComplex Dec 2023 #34
So when will the DOJ investigate Ron Johnson and Scott Perry for their accomplice roles in the fake elector fraud? Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #3
I'm certain that Rep. Jordan's committee will get right on subpoenaing those two gratuitous Dec 2023 #6
If CNN has the docs to back up the story with the names then broadcast it. Boomerproud Dec 2023 #7
Of course he knows MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #19
Oh, and right after the plans for the Trump Presidential Library are finalized! What a hoot! machoneman Dec 2023 #25
They are going to annex a Presidential Library to a federal prison. It will likely have a couple of books tfg ..... usaf-vet Dec 2023 #33
Stuck in the mail??? 😂😂😂 FelineOverlord Dec 2023 #4
Yeah, I thought that, too. tanyev Dec 2023 #10
DeStroy stuck in the Jail! PTL_Mancuso Dec 2023 #30
I'm pretty sure Trump never heard of any of these people! dchill Dec 2023 #5
Another domino falls. I wonder how many are left. n/t aggiesal Dec 2023 #8
Chesebro claims to have learned a lesson: tanyev Dec 2023 #9
This is all proof that tfg knowingly committed treason. Also proof he should be removed from ballots. lindysalsagal Dec 2023 #11
i want to see a lot of these ppl in jail too also, starting w t,,,. im getting tired of the coddleing. AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #12
The evidence of insurrection, coup attempt is voluminous. It is hard to believe how DOJ is being so hobbled (so far). Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #14
The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail? DEJOY!!! ffr Dec 2023 #15
Freakin CNN usonian Dec 2023 #16
How is CNN responsible MorbidButterflyTat Dec 2023 #20
It's just a lie. usonian Dec 2023 #22
I remember when they flew a couple of, I think MI state reps, to DC Cheezoholic Dec 2023 #17
Late Christmas present PlutosHeart Dec 2023 #18
"...help from two Republicans in Congress...' uponit7771 Dec 2023 #21
Ron Johnson & Scott Perry are my guesses. Nevilledog Dec 2023 #23
They were very confident on the day of them wanting to take over the government now they all want to hide. uponit7771 Dec 2023 #24
They aren't hiding gab13by13 Dec 2023 #27
Here is the importance of this news, gab13by13 Dec 2023 #26
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2023 #28
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2023 #29
Gee how surprising SouthernDem4ever Dec 2023 #31
Very good article Wild blueberry Dec 2023 #35
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
1. Big trouble for trump and many of his operatives...probably some legislators too.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 05:15 PM
Dec 2023

Sen. Ron Johnson maybe, Gym Jordan too.

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
32. Exactly! RoJo as he is called by us WI liberals. Married into a Wisconsin corporate family. IMO he would be humping...
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:14 PM
Dec 2023

.... crazy internet gimmicks. Like, "You don't need hearing aids all you need is the tap two teaspoons next to your ear."
If he didn't marry into corporate money.

He was caught when the push was on to get the false electoral ballots to DC. He lied when he denied any involvement in the scheme.

BComplex

(9,912 posts)
34. Knowing DJT, he prolly broke the law for the financial aspects of transporting the ballots as well, I would guess.
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 02:00 PM
Dec 2023

He juggles money like a maytag washing machine from one account to the next.

Lonestarblue

(13,475 posts)
3. So when will the DOJ investigate Ron Johnson and Scott Perry for their accomplice roles in the fake elector fraud?
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 05:26 PM
Dec 2023

I won’t hold my breath waiting.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. I'm certain that Rep. Jordan's committee will get right on subpoenaing those two
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 05:35 PM
Dec 2023

When he has a little time, like, after Infrastructure Week or the unveiling of the former guy's plan to replace the Affordable Care Act.

Did it seem like the CNN story was really reluctant to name Sen. Johnson and Rep. Perry as the Republicans who were up their beady little eyeballs in this sordid episode?

Boomerproud

(9,291 posts)
7. If CNN has the docs to back up the story with the names then broadcast it.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:34 PM
Dec 2023

The only reason I think of re their resistance is Jack Smith already knows and it's part of the indictment.

machoneman

(4,128 posts)
25. Oh, and right after the plans for the Trump Presidential Library are finalized! What a hoot!
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 08:33 AM
Dec 2023

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
33. They are going to annex a Presidential Library to a federal prison. It will likely have a couple of books tfg .....
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 01:24 PM
Dec 2023

..... had ghostwritten? And, of course, mien kamph and a bible owned by someone else that he held upside down for the world to see in one of his political stunts. They will represent at least two books he never read.

tanyev

(49,284 posts)
9. Chesebro claims to have learned a lesson:
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:49 PM
Dec 2023
“It’s been a real lesson in not working with people that you don’t know and are not sure you can trust, because it really went south on me.”

You’d think someone who’s been a lawyer for quite some time would have figured that out already.

lindysalsagal

(22,905 posts)
11. This is all proof that tfg knowingly committed treason. Also proof he should be removed from ballots.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:53 PM
Dec 2023

You can't get anything more concrete than this.

AllaN01Bear

(29,485 posts)
12. i want to see a lot of these ppl in jail too also, starting w t,,,. im getting tired of the coddleing.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 06:54 PM
Dec 2023

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
14. The evidence of insurrection, coup attempt is voluminous. It is hard to believe how DOJ is being so hobbled (so far).
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 07:18 PM
Dec 2023

ffr

(23,398 posts)
15. The fake elector certificates from two critical battleground states were stuck in the mail? DEJOY!!!
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 07:43 PM
Dec 2023

How ironic! TFG replaced the postmaster general with his own handpicked guy to log-jam the U.S. Postal Service.

usonian

(25,300 posts)
22. It's just a lie.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 08:59 PM
Dec 2023

My blockers are cutting their ad revenue.

Whatever excuse they are using is B.S.

The so-called issue might be California privacy rules which restrict who knows what.

It might have to do with third-party tracking cookies.

More to do with their ad revenue, IMNSHO.

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
17. I remember when they flew a couple of, I think MI state reps, to DC
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 08:05 PM
Dec 2023

I mean I'm seeing a lot of stuff coming up in the media that's just regurgitation of headlines from 2 years ago. It's fine to remind but are we all truly that forgetful?

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
24. They were very confident on the day of them wanting to take over the government now they all want to hide.
Thu Dec 28, 2023, 09:15 PM
Dec 2023

gab13by13

(32,315 posts)
27. They aren't hiding
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 09:40 AM
Dec 2023

they are very active in the continuing insurrection. They even made Scott Perry chairman of the Freedumb caucus where he is investigating the FBI.

gab13by13

(32,315 posts)
26. Here is the importance of this news,
Fri Dec 29, 2023, 09:38 AM
Dec 2023

There were no appeals of fraud going through the court system, all were litigated. The only reason to fly those fake elector documents to DC was to aid in the coup attempt to overthrow the election, those fake documents served no other purpose.

Also, the 2 Congressional Magats should be banned from holding office under the 14th Amendment.

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