CBS Sen. Sanders: "Israel is losing the war in terms of how the conflict is perceived''

[Donkees]

Dec 10, 2023

Sen. Bernie Sanders tells "Face the Nation" that "Israel is losing the war in terms of how the world is looking at the situation" in the Middle East. "I think it would be irresponsible for the United States to give [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu another $10 billion to continue to wage this awful war," he added.

Transcript: Sen. Bernie Sanders on "Face the Nation," Dec. 10, 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-face-the-nation-transcript-12-10-2023/

[TheKentuckian]

1. Putin and Chump say thanks. Hamas sent a bouquet.

I suspect asinine folding to Tictok morons to keep the donations rolling while western civilization is under an all out assault, including Israel.

[LenaBaby61]

21. Agreed ...

A few weeks ago, I mentioned on this platform how one of my friends (whose Jewish) granddaughters and the group of her friends left Tik Tok because so many from the US were so anti-Pres. Biden and falling for lies and propaganda, about how he is supporting Hamas and Israel against the Palestinian's The Chinese platform is overwhelming filled with told with anti Pres. Biden LIES even though there is information now coming out that not only did tRump's buddy and Jared's god-daddy Bibi KNOW about what Hamas was plotting a year or so ago, but since many in Israel were protesting his crooked ass, he sat back and was hoping to use what Hamas did for leverage, because he's in such trouble. His own people, military, police, and many in the military were protesting against him. Putin was in with Iran and Hamas and he and his body doubles are smiling from ear to ear hearing that Pres. Biden in some people's eyes is responsible for what Hamas did in using it's own people as disposable human shields 👀 But nope, Hamas is fighting for it's own people says many on Tik Tok, this whole mess is all Pres. Biden's fault, say many Muslim who now plan to not vote for Pres. Biden in 2024 in the US, the MANY who are brainwashed and who are pro-religious fanatic right-winged Israel Likud guy Bibi/religious fanatical right-winged Hamas on Tik Tok. Lord have mercy

[peppertree]

31. Well said

Then there's the matter of the Gaza perimeter.

This is one of the world's most sophisticated and militarized such barriers (cats can't even walk along it without getting zapped - as many Gazan children know so well).

And yet, on that day, it was disactivated for hours without triggering alarms in IDF monitoring stations?? And after Bibi had been informed for months that a massive attack was in the works???

Hey - they don't call him the Israeli Machiavelli for nothing.

[emulatorloo]

2. You're not helping. More solutions and real proposals, less hyperbolic sound bytes please.

[Autumn]

4. Bernie is right. Not giving Netanyahu another $10 billion to continue to wage this awful war

is the best solution there is. So there you go.

[emulatorloo]

7. Solutions have substance though. Maybe he'll get around to that part, he often does.

[Autumn]

8. Not to worry. The Pukes and Trump will never allow that, money to burn. Meanwhile, the Ukraine...

[redqueen]

10. I believe he said the aid could be sent with conditions

Chiefly that attacks on Palestinians in the west bank are stopped, settlements are stopped, etc.

[MOMFUDSKI]

24. And the US has to solve this problem?

Why?

[yardwork]

9. How do you know it's the best solution there is?

Do you think Joe Biden is stupider than a bunch of people with tiny bits of information but lots of opinions?

Maybe Biden knows something we don't.

[Autumn]

12. How do you know it isn't? This is about what Bernie said, not what Joe said.

I believe that Democrats are not like Republicans, we do not go along with everything a Democratic president says or does. We are more than capable of thinking for ourselves. YMOV.

[yardwork]

14. Neither of us knows, which is why I don't say I do.

Bernie Sanders isn't privy to a lot of information either. He's a politician, speaking to his constituents.

[Autumn]

15. He's privy to much more than us. I'm not his constituent but he speaks to me and for me.

[TomDaisy]

34. truth

[ColinC]

6. Will 10 billion dollars to an autocratic, evil regime help?

Doubtful

[ramen]

23. Solutions like attaching conditions to the military aid?

If the Israeli government wants this jawdropping amount of starting money, we could have it be conditional on the Israeli government causing the violence against Palestinians in the West Bank to stop. Perhaps it could be conditional on meaningfully reducing Palestinian civilian casualties in Gaza immediately. Or maybe ending "administrative detention" (detention without charges or due process) or unwinding the endless land grab and removal of Palestinians expressed by 'settlers.' Conditions on aid can influence behavior of the recipient.

[TexasDem69]

28. Hamas could end civilian casualties in Gaza today

By releasing all hostages and surrendering everyone involved in the October 7 atrocities. That is a simple, uncontroversial and guaranteed way to save lives. Every individual on this site should support that solution.

[ramen]

29. These solutions are nonexclusive unless you think that the Israeli government will never get US aid again.

Who doesn't want hostages released other than Hamas, and possibly Neyanyahu?? I have to assume nobody on this board thinks taking civilian hostages is at all ok.

[Autumn]

3. Thank you Bernie. An American politician who actually gets it. You are so right.

[LexVegas]

5. Who is this guy? nt

[Autumn]

13. A Progressive politician. A wonderful Jewish man

[Earth-shine]

16. He's the guy who said no to the Iraq war.

In this case, what did your avatar do as a Senator from NY?

[Arazi]

11. He only supports a humanitarian aid ceasefire

Not a full ceasefire 🤔

[redqueen]

19. And apparently even that is too much to ask.u

We're supposed to jst hand over the $ and STFU

[emulatorloo]

25. He has very good reasoning: Hamas VIOLATES permanent ceasefires

I don’t know how you can have a permanent ceasefire with Hamas who has said before October 7 and after October 7 that they want to destroy Israel and they want a permanent war. I don’t know how you have a permanent ceasefire with an attitude like that.

[WarGamer]

17. Truth.

[GuppyGal]

18. I'm sure that would happen regardless of how they responded...oh wait unless they did and do nothing perhaps

that's what people want. PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

[Celerity]

20. K & R

[Oopsie Daisy]

22. "How the conflict is perceived" has not raped, gang-raped, sexually mutilated, and killed while raping someone.

It also hasn't been able to launch any terror attacks, or take hostages. --- That sounds like winning to me.

[emulatorloo]

26. I very much appreciated what he said about " permanent ceasefires".

I don’t know how you can have a permanent ceasefire with Hamas who has said before October 7 and after October 7 that they want to destroy Israel and they want a permanent war. I don’t know how you have a permanent ceasefire with an attitude like that.

[TexasDem69]

27. What do the senators from our party think?

How about Fetterman? What has President Biden said?

[TomDaisy]

32. kick

[TomDaisy]

33. .