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Chuck Todd: Trump will flip on the abortion issue once he finds a way to do it
The shift of college educated Republicans away from the Republican Party has really hurt the Republican Partys ability to do well in low turnout elections, says NBC News Chief Political Analyst Chuck Todd.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/chuck-todd-trump-will-flip-on-the-abortion-issue-once-he-finds-a-way-to-do-it-197411397815
Maru Kitteh
(31,765 posts)Trump has never given a hot damn one way or the other about abortion beyond pressuring women to get them if he thought they were carrying his spawn.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)As soon as he figures out a way to cross the Grand Canyon in two jumps. The inmates are running the asylum, and the Republican zealots will not brook apostasy from the One True Faith, not even from their Tangerine Messiah. Sorry chucktodd; your Republican pals won their half century crusade to make women second class citizens, and they will pay the price for decades to come.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)It wouldn't be the first time that he messed with one of their sacred cows. He banned bump stocks and they barely batted an eye. Had Obama done that, they would have stormed the gates.
Straw Man
(6,947 posts)Bump stocks are a sideshow and a red herring. Yes, the MAGATS would have howled if Obama had banned them, but they howled when he wore a tan suit. Their outrage comes cheap.
In the spectrum of gun rights advocacy, bump stocks mean very little. The number of people using them is tiny, and they provide very little practical advantage -- unless, of course, you intend to spray fire at a large crowd from the safety of a hotel window. They are finicky and difficult to control, and would be much less effective in any battle scenario than a basic semi-automatic rifle.
The anti-abortion movement, on the other hand, has a long history and deep roots in conservative politics. If he turns against that crowd, he loses a large and dedicated portion of his base.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Any attempt to put a check on the 2nd Amendment, however trivial, is met with intense outrage and "slippery slope" nonsense by the gun nuts.
Except that one. Hmm, what's the difference? Oh, yeah, it was Trump.
In their eyes, he can do no wrong. He plays both sides of multiple issues and they applaud him for both.
Straw Man
(6,947 posts)How many "gun nuts" have you actually spoken to? I have spoken to a lot of them. If you asked them to list all the proposed gun control measures in order of importance, bump stocks would be dead last.
I won't post a link here because the article is generally full of wingnut spew, but if you're interested, Google the article "Does Trump Truly Support the Second Amendment?" by David Codrea.
3Hotdogs
(15,370 posts)Yet, he doesn't brag on it at his rallies. In fact, he doesn't mention abortion at all.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)MyNameIsJonas
(744 posts)Prairie Gates
(8,164 posts)He used it solely to forge a conservative coalition. He already sees that it is more likely to damage than help him, so he'll drop it as soon as he can. Our entire poliics is utterly cynical, and Trump is the King of the Cynics. Chuck Todd giggling about and applauding this completely substanceless politics is no small part of the shame here.
Mz Pip
(28,457 posts)a pro choice Democrat back when he was in New York.
Hell do whatever is politically expedient. Will be interesting to see how he backs out of his plan for a national abortion ban.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)For a few brief years in the early 00s.
The rest of his life he was either a traitor thug, or part of that Reform Party nonsense.
He was a Dem only because NY had gone so Dem that it was the only way to stay on the government's good side there.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Dont trust them, though.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)ADHD.
creeksneakers2
(8,016 posts)Trump suggested a ban after 15 weeks as a compromise. Of course, he paid no price among the GOP for this.
Doesn't say 15 weeks at this link but does say compromise.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bring-country-together-abortion-meet-the-press-rcna105311
If abortion is murder how can they compromise?
FHRRK
(1,410 posts)Trump will have to deal with the video of him bragging about getting Roe v Wade, bigger issue, too soon, they wont be believed
Johnny2X2X
(24,212 posts)He's bragged endlessly about getting rid of Roe v Wade. He's also on tape saying women need to be punsihed by the criminal justice system for getting abortions.
ificandream
(11,837 posts)He's phony through and through.
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)He is a flimflam man who will say one thing to one group of people and say the exact opposite to another group. He's a liar who will say pretty much anything if he thinks it benefits him at the moment.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)And leave it at that. Take credit for over turning Roe and just let each state make its own decision.
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)Again, it depends on the audience he thinks he is speaking to, and is not based on some sort set of beliefs. He will discard any notion of "state's rights" if it is advantageous to him at the time