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garybeck

(10,085 posts)
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 05:36 PM Aug 2023

Why wasn't Trump charged just like Giuliani for defamation of Ruby Freeman?

Hearing all the reporting today about Giuliani's charges of defamation against Ruby Freeman. Then i hear a recording of Trump saying all the same things that Giuliani said. I guess it was up to the Freemans who to file charges against. i wonder now if they will consider charging Trump, now that all the evidence is already out and they proved they are right.

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Why wasn't Trump charged just like Giuliani for defamation of Ruby Freeman? (Original Post) garybeck Aug 2023 OP
Because he hasn't been charged with anything ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #1
right, that was basically my question. why didn't the freemans sue trump too? nt garybeck Aug 2023 #7
He still could be. (Sued for defamation, not charged) hlthe2b Aug 2023 #2
He seems to have more money than Rudy. louis-t Aug 2023 #3
He wouldn't be "charged" because defaming someone isn't a crime; it's a tort. Ocelot II Aug 2023 #4
Maybe because he didn't do it publicly? mobeau69 Aug 2023 #5
Those two women went through hell blogslug Aug 2023 #6
👍 Deuxcents Aug 2023 #8
Ms Freeman referenced in RICO Charges Dear_Prudence Aug 2023 #9
 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
1. Because he hasn't been charged with anything
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 05:39 PM
Aug 2023

It's not a criminal case, but civil. The Freemans sued him, and they chose who they wanted to sue.

Way it works.

Ocelot II

(130,549 posts)
4. He wouldn't be "charged" because defaming someone isn't a crime; it's a tort.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 05:54 PM
Aug 2023

He could be sued, though; but Freeman and Moss chose not to do so, possibly because of the complications involved in suing a president - which can be done, as E. Jean Carroll has shown, but it's a slower process because you have to deal with the Federal Tort Claims Act. Giuliani was an easier target.

blogslug

(39,167 posts)
6. Those two women went through hell
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 06:28 PM
Aug 2023

They would be perfectly justified in completely retreating from public life. Instead they chose to fight one man whose lies upturned and threatened their lives. I can't imagine the fortitude it took for them to file just this one lawsuit.

Dear_Prudence

(1,172 posts)
9. Ms Freeman referenced in RICO Charges
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 06:58 PM
Aug 2023

The RICO charges against TFG by Fulton County, Georgia, include intimidation and harassment of Fulton County election worker Ruby Freeman. It references the effort to solicit false testimony from Ms. Freeman. So TFG's actions against her are included in the *criminal* charges.

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