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uconfirmed reports that Wagner has surrounded Russian Southern Military District HQ in Rostov (Original Post) rollin74 Jun 2023 OP
K&R, Wagner technical in Rostov uponit7771 Jun 2023 #1
Seems like Wagner Group are flying Russian flags................. Lovie777 Jun 2023 #2
A Wagner conga line..hilarious! AZ8theist Jun 2023 #15
Sushko has been unreliable in the past, but this may be borne out by other footage of Rostov: Emrys Jun 2023 #3
I take it that this guy is being sarcastic about the locals being "terrified"? niyad Jun 2023 #17
Related to that: Emrys Jun 2023 #19
I am giddy with happiness about this turn of events Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #4
I'm cautiously optimistic Major Nikon Jun 2023 #13
agree..but he strikes me as military and not a political leader Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #14
Who (or what) is Wagner? Polybius Jun 2023 #5
A private mercenary force utilized by Putin to buttress the weak Russian Army in Ukraine brooklynite Jun 2023 #7
Wagner Private Military Company rollin74 Jun 2023 #8
They recruit prisoners and torture, rape and kill people including their own. They smashed chowder66 Jun 2023 #10
And supposed killed many in Africa? PlutosHeart Jun 2023 #12
I hope they cancel each other. chowder66 Jun 2023 #22
Wiki entry: IronLionZion Jun 2023 #21
In short, Wagner Group is Putins personal Blackwater force Volaris Jun 2023 #25
Erik Prince moniss Jun 2023 #29
Better display of armor than Pootler last managed... The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #6
Yeah that should tell u something... Volaris Jun 2023 #26
They have money that wasn't skimmed from inventory and maintenance. crickets Jun 2023 #30
tsk tsk, Putin republianmushroom Jun 2023 #9
Kick dalton99a Jun 2023 #11
Do those tanks have "Moscow Or Bust" written on them? LudwigPastorius Jun 2023 #16
Is pooty in a bunker yet ? Beachnutt Jun 2023 #18
He is missing in action, was supposed to come out and give a statement but did not show. Bev54 Jun 2023 #24
Ukraine hopefully speeds up the counteroffensive. roamer65 Jun 2023 #20
I dunno...u think Prigozin is dumb enough to launch a second assault, Volaris Jun 2023 #27
Maybe a Putin bunker suicide is how this ends IronLionZion Jun 2023 #23
Perhaps some of those around him moniss Jun 2023 #28
Get real close to the window for a good look IronLionZion Jun 2023 #31
Perhaps a view of the Kremlin moniss Jun 2023 #32

Lovie777

(22,970 posts)
2. Seems like Wagner Group are flying Russian flags.................
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:29 PM
Jun 2023

it also seems like they have surrounded the headquarters.

Emrys

(9,100 posts)
19. Related to that:
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:46 PM
Jun 2023



Aric Toler
@AricToler

I remember reading in school about how there would be crowds of civilians who'd recreationally watch battles in the 18th/19th century, and about how insane that sounded at the time.

https://t.me/lentachold/616

[Twitter video of members of the public gawping as troops take up strategic positions on the street]

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
13. I'm cautiously optimistic
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:27 PM
Jun 2023

This looks more and more like a coup and I can very much see Prigozhin overthrowing Putin. The timing is perfectly ideal. I’m just not convinced Prigozhin is better than Putin, and would quite possibly be much worse. This is the guy Putin was using for the dirtiest of his deeds.

Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
14. agree..but he strikes me as military and not a political leader
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:30 PM
Jun 2023

he clearly doesn't think the war is justified so that is promising

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. A private mercenary force utilized by Putin to buttress the weak Russian Army in Ukraine
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:44 PM
Jun 2023

rollin74

(2,300 posts)
8. Wagner Private Military Company
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:44 PM
Jun 2023

Russian mercenary army that has been fighting for Putin in Ukraine

they are launching a coup attempt against the Russian military, their leader has vocally turned against the Russian military command in recent weeks

chowder66

(12,240 posts)
10. They recruit prisoners and torture, rape and kill people including their own. They smashed
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 10:54 PM
Jun 2023

the head of one of their own with a sledgehammer after they captured him for turning and joining the Ukrainians.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
12. And supposed killed many in Africa?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:26 PM
Jun 2023

Nothing good about anything over there right now. Replace one monster with another.

Volaris

(11,697 posts)
25. In short, Wagner Group is Putins personal Blackwater force
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:47 AM
Jun 2023

Highly trained mercenaries, (sort of) under control of the existing power regime...SORT OF being parthenrhised FOR A REASON (CLEARLY Not Today).

moniss

(9,056 posts)
29. Erik Prince
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:25 AM
Jun 2023

was reportedly trying for the last few years to develop a "working relationship" with them.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
30. They have money that wasn't skimmed from inventory and maintenance.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:36 AM
Jun 2023

Wagner Group has gotten control of some African diamond and mineral mines, and not having to depend upon Putin entirely for a paycheck and equipment$ does tend to shift things a bit. In its own way, Wagner is just as bad as Putin.

https://central.asia-news.com/en_GB/articles/cnmi_ca/features/2022/12/16/feature-01

LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
16. Do those tanks have "Moscow Or Bust" written on them?
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 11:35 PM
Jun 2023

I have no illusions that Prigozhin would survive a coup attempt, or that he'd be any better than Putin if he succeeded.

I just want to see them both burn their resources in Russia instead of Ukraine.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
24. He is missing in action, was supposed to come out and give a statement but did not show.
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM
Jun 2023

It amazes me these people standing on the streets like they are watching a movie not a coup. More of the Wagner group has kept moving north and are about half way to Moscow but there is also groups spreading out in other directions. They seem to be cutting off Russian troop re-supply routes???

Volaris

(11,697 posts)
27. I dunno...u think Prigozin is dumb enough to launch a second assault,
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:52 AM
Jun 2023

unless he was CERTIAN he could hold what he had?...



IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
23. Maybe a Putin bunker suicide is how this ends
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:26 AM
Jun 2023

It would be really interesting if Russia ended up being like post-war Germany

moniss

(9,056 posts)
28. Perhaps some of those around him
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 01:23 AM
Jun 2023

have suggested a view of Moscow from the 6th floor. For a moment or two.

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