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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump committed all of it: Sedition, Espionage, and (any way you look at it) Treason
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-bookThis 2021 Article in The Guardian explains the Trump/Russia connection. This is how it all began. And when Trump won the Presidency, his relationship with Putin continued and his betrayal of the United States of America began for real. And I think Jack Smith has the goods on Trump. (My words)
The perfect target: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years ex-KGB spy'
'Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow...Yuri Shvets, posted to Washington by the Soviet Union in the 1980s...This is an example where people were recruited...and then they rose to important positions; something like that was happening with Trump,...Shvets, a KGB major, had a cover job as a correspondent in Washington for the Russian news agency Tass during the 1980s....Trump first appeared on the Russians radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakias intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB.
Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue...According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called spotter agent who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB.
Then, in 1987, Trump and Ivana visited Moscow and St Petersburg for the first time. Shvets said he was fed KGB talking points and flattered by KGB operatives who floated the idea that he should go into politics... They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: it is people like him who could change the world. They fed him these so-called active measures soundbites and it happened. So it was a big achievement for the KGB active measures at the time.
Trumps election win in 2016 was again welcomed by Moscow... the Moscow Project, an initiative of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, found the Trump campaign and transition team had at least 272 known contacts and at least 38 known meetings with Russia-linked operatives...Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.
GreenWave
(12,641 posts)Jack arrest that fucking orange prick.
malaise
(296,096 posts)😀
Joinfortmill
(21,162 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)Goonch
(5,055 posts)
malaise
(296,096 posts)Rec
2naSalit
(102,786 posts)Makes sense to me.
republianmushroom
(22,324 posts)tanyev
(49,288 posts)Doubtful Putin would have ever wanted such a clownish buffoon as a spy, but hes ideal as a malleable target.
ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)and he'll be yours for life, as long as you don't do anything to displease him. Easy for the Russians, because they don't have to put up with his crap on a day to day basis.
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)Will destroy this hypothesis. As soon as they figure out what hypothesis means. A congressional super duper committee led by super duper conservatives will get to the bottom, or the top of theses shenanigans. Dont ever fuck with the super powers of Comer And Jordan. They are the Gingrich and gowdy of future world.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,721 posts)that Jack Smith has evidence of Trump shared classified documents with Russia.
I'm not saying Trump did not do that - only that these cases do not seem to include that crime.
If Trump did commit treason by sharing classified information with Russia or any other countries, it most likely happened while he was still "President" and in D.C.. Espionage/Treason charges would like be filed there rather than South Florida.
triron
(22,240 posts)However everything else we know about Trump says he did.
onenote
(46,140 posts)The absence of evidence that he didn't won't cut it in a court of law.
triron
(22,240 posts)PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Trump committed so many crimes that hell never be charged for all of them.
Convict him of two or three big ones and thatll be enough to finish him off, I think.
MomInTheCrowd
(339 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)Someone is pulling the strings. At first, it appeared to be Russia? Meeting in the White House, the phone calls, the Helsinki meeting, etc.
But then, the business side seemed to be with the Saudis? They assisted him in the takeover of the PGA. There was the loyalty test with the murder of the WashPost journalist, the friendship with the Prince, the money that was handed to Jared Kushner and Ivanka, etc.
So, who was/is pulling the strings on Trump?
bucolic_frolic
(55,133 posts)So much of that in the 70s and 80s. They were looking for American businessmen as husbands.
We grossly failed as a society and nation State by not filtering out this putrid security risk from the pool of possible presidential candidates.