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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:28 PM Jun 2023

Glenn Greenwald thinks the trump indictment is abusing its legal power to a prevent trump run

"Glenn Greenwald claims the Trump indictment is the establishment abusing its legal powers, intending to prevent Trump from running for President in 2024."




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Glenn Greenwald thinks the trump indictment is abusing its legal power to a prevent trump run (Original Post) JohnSJ Jun 2023 OP
So Republicans in Congress are abusing their power by investigating Biden? Marius25 Jun 2023 #1
I won't hold my breath waiting for himGreenwald to say that JohnSJ Jun 2023 #3
Of course he does. Or do he, Lindsey, et al., really *think* what they say they do? UTUSN Jun 2023 #2
No. They know they are liars. nt GoodRaisin Jun 2023 #33
Glen who? SalamanderSleeps Jun 2023 #4
At least I think the Hudson Brothers had some talent JohnSJ Jun 2023 #5
Snowden vrguy Jun 2023 #10
He used Snowden to further his career, and left Snowden out to dry, just like he did JohnSJ Jun 2023 #12
Glenn Greenwald should *uck all the way off. He's longing for the time when he mattered. Comfortably_Numb Jun 2023 #6
Of course he does Effete Snob Jun 2023 #7
Glenn continues his audition for Newsmax. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #8
Might this possibly be the last straw for Glenn's fans on DU? yardwork Jun 2023 #9
One would think so. Then again, comparing the MAGAs to trump's activities, there seems to JohnSJ Jun 2023 #11
Nutball says what? marble falls Jun 2023 #13
+++ JohnSJ Jun 2023 #14
He just gets more and more extreme as time passes PatSeg Jun 2023 #15
I think he fooled a lot of people. This is someone who initially supported the Iraq JohnSJ Jun 2023 #18
It sounds like Greenwald PatSeg Jun 2023 #21
Yup. IL-liberal masquerading as. The usual. Hortensis Jun 2023 #57
It seems there have been quite a few of those PatSeg Jun 2023 #58
+1000 to that! Hortensis Jun 2023 #63
Greenwald Never mattered to me.. Cha Jun 2023 #16
Hey Glenn Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2023 #17
Greenwald can fuck right off. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #19
+++ JohnSJ Jun 2023 #20
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Bobby who? Where did I mention Bobby? Ocelot II Jun 2023 #43
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Bobby who? I didn't even mention a Bobby. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #46
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He is no RFK, and an embarrassment to his family. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #48
Amen to this! ShazzieB Jun 2023 #51
Totally agree, Shazzie. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #52
I don't like him and I would not vote for him. That's not "bashing" Ocelot II Jun 2023 #50
+1 betsuni Jun 2023 #56
this is basically what I was gonna say prodigitalson Jun 2023 #61
Putin Fluffer says what now? Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #22
glenn is a GD idiot spanone Jun 2023 #23
Glenn Greenwald has been stupid for some time now. Caliman73 Jun 2023 #24
Hopefully, he will soon discover that those Rubles aren't as valuable maxrandb Jun 2023 #25
I think a Trump run is abusing the legal system's ability to indict Mr. Ected Jun 2023 #26
Glenn Greenwald is always wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #27
Yes he is. +++ JohnSJ Jun 2023 #29
Why won't people who defended him here ever admit they were wrong? Ego? BlueLucy Jun 2023 #28
Maybe most just clued in and moved on? Hortensis Jun 2023 #59
Who inthewind21 Jun 2023 #30
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Why would Democrats be interested in these probable Putin-funded idiots? FSogol Jun 2023 #32
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LOL. Scary! I have no respect for science denying frauds pretending to be Democrats. FSogol Jun 2023 #35
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Thanks! johnp3907 Jun 2023 #37
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My finger just stopped itching. johnp3907 Jun 2023 #39
He doesn't even look or sound like the guy I used to like intrepidity Jun 2023 #40
Lol, how MANY have to say that when someone they admired Hortensis Jun 2023 #60
Baltimike thinks Glenn Greenwald is a Rusasian asset. nt Baltimike Jun 2023 #41
+1 betsuni Jun 2023 #55
+1,000 okaawhatever Jun 2023 #64
Sure. He unquestionably is, as are tRump and anyone else whose actions Hortensis Jun 2023 #65
Who dat? Hekate Jun 2023 #44
Ruby, we hardly knew ye! johnp3907 Jun 2023 #49
She probably had to go get a covid booster vaccination. FSogol Jun 2023 #53
Teh Establishment means Democrats, of course, who "embody" fascism, are "envious of Putin," the betsuni Jun 2023 #54
Oh, Glenn, not nice to meet (the real) you. Hortensis Jun 2023 #62
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
1. So Republicans in Congress are abusing their power by investigating Biden?
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:29 PM
Jun 2023

That also means absolutely any American can commit any crimes they want, as long as they submit FEC filings to run for political office.

vrguy

(271 posts)
10. Snowden
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:43 PM
Jun 2023

When he had his Snowden phase I had so much respect for Greenwald, now I think he is just a cook.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
12. He used Snowden to further his career, and left Snowden out to dry, just like he did
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:47 PM
Jun 2023

with Reality Winner when Greenwald was part of The Intercept, and exposed her as a source, which resulted in her arrest





yardwork

(69,364 posts)
9. Might this possibly be the last straw for Glenn's fans on DU?
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jun 2023

Or will the tortured reasoning continue?

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
11. One would think so. Then again, comparing the MAGAs to trump's activities, there seems to
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:44 PM
Jun 2023

be no last straw for them


PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
15. He just gets more and more extreme as time passes
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:50 PM
Jun 2023

Wasn't he a popular liberal long ago?

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
18. I think he fooled a lot of people. This is someone who initially supported the Iraq
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:58 PM
Jun 2023

invasion, and then denied he did later.


PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
21. It sounds like Greenwald
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 01:07 PM
Jun 2023

never really believed in anything except for himself and the furtherance of his career. I always found him to be awfully whiny.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
58. It seems there have been quite a few of those
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 03:29 PM
Jun 2023

over the years. There is usually something about them that isn't quite right.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
16. Greenwald Never mattered to me..
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:51 PM
Jun 2023

fucker called us "Obamabots" as some kind of Slur.

I had his number from the get.. Traitor Snowden's too.

Ocelot II

(130,519 posts)
19. Greenwald can fuck right off.
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 12:59 PM
Jun 2023

He's part of what one might call the authoritarian/fascist Putinite pseudo-Left, along with the likes of Tulsi Gabbard, Briahna Joy Gray and Jill Stein. You know, the folks that claim Democrats are as bad as the GOP but then crawl right in bed with the Trump defenders. And fuck them, too.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #19)

Ocelot II

(130,519 posts)
43. Bobby who? Where did I mention Bobby?
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 05:21 PM
Jun 2023

I was talking about Glenn Greenwald and Jill Stein and that crowd, who aren't Democrats. Did you intend to respond to this post or some other?

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #43)

Ocelot II

(130,519 posts)
46. Bobby who? I didn't even mention a Bobby.
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 05:29 PM
Jun 2023

Where did I mention Bobby? Am I supposed to like some guy named Bobby whom I did not mention?

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #46)

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
51. Amen to this!
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 05:41 PM
Jun 2023

I can't stand the guy, not after all I've read about his antivaxx shenanigans. Trying to bust into politics on the strength of his late father's name is disgusting.

Ocelot II

(130,519 posts)
50. I don't like him and I would not vote for him. That's not "bashing"
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 05:39 PM
Jun 2023

as defined in DU's TOS. We are not obligated to like all candidates who claim to be Democrats as long as we don't post "disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against them." I have not done that. I do admit to having bashed Glenn Greenwald, who is not a Democrat and deserves all the bashing that can be heaped upon him.

prodigitalson

(3,193 posts)
61. this is basically what I was gonna say
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 04:24 PM
Jun 2023

at least he fuck right off part.

I would add Matt Taibbi to that list of shit stains.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
24. Glenn Greenwald has been stupid for some time now.
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 01:18 PM
Jun 2023

I have no problem critiquing the way that power is used to protect power. I have said before, that I think it was a mistake by the House under Nancy Pelosi, not to dig in on Bush and Cheney lying to take us to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. It was a mistake for Ford to pardon Nixon. Too often, people in power have not been held to account. This is what led to Trump. He is the culmination of various administrations literally getting away with crime.

With the advent of right wing propaganda posing as "news" we now have a situation where ANYTHING done to hold people to account, is going to be seen as completely partisan.

The difference is, that if there were actually credible information that came up showing the President Biden did anything illegal, liberals would not blindly support him in the face of actually evidence. The problem is that right wingers have NO evidence and think that their unsupported allegations should have the same weight as the mountains of evidence that investigations have turned up on Trump's wrongdoing.

Greenwald had a brief moment in time, where he was actually trying to hold people in power to account, but he has since sold himself to the right wing for a chance at relevance, which will never come again.

maxrandb

(17,425 posts)
25. Hopefully, he will soon discover that those Rubles aren't as valuable
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 01:29 PM
Jun 2023

as they used to be

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
26. I think a Trump run is abusing the legal system's ability to indict
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 01:43 PM
Jun 2023

Intentionally. And so do you.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. Maybe most just clued in and moved on?
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 03:30 PM
Jun 2023

Never actual Greenwald-heads in the first place? Just endorsed things that sounded good?

I sympathize. It takes time and bother to learn enough about issues to recognize and confirm often subtle patterns of dishonesty. To recognize that statements seemingly mostly compatible with those of Democrats in general are actually delivery vehicles for very different messages.

Of course there will be those who still agree with his messaging and resent that so many don't.


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FSogol

(47,623 posts)
35. LOL. Scary! I have no respect for science denying frauds pretending to be Democrats.
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 04:48 PM
Jun 2023

The thinner ice will be what time the library closes.

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intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
40. He doesn't even look or sound like the guy I used to like
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 05:08 PM
Jun 2023

way back when. Are we sure that's even him?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Lol, how MANY have to say that when someone they admired
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 04:19 PM
Jun 2023

turns out to be...a Greenwald?

So many extremists and miswired whatevers start out posing as generally liberal, sharing the values of naive Democratic sheep but posturing as wiser, more principled voices, less in thrall to corrupt corporatists and warmongers.

While they establish, like, an income? A marketable reputation, tenure if they're in academia, get published, etc? Even fame and a large, admiring following?

Then later, after they've become successful and/or after they self-destructed because of what they aren't...?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
65. Sure. He unquestionably is, as are tRump and anyone else whose actions
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 08:33 PM
Jun 2023

make them an asset to Russia's political warfare. Whether intentional or unintentional, paid or unpaid, knowing or clueless, earnestly well meaning or subversive, as long as they function as assets.

And of course the crowds open to influence by assets are considered "useful idiots." After electing tRump and throwing congress and SCOTUS to the Republicans, IMO the useful idiots deserve a less dismissive term -- en mass useful idiocy can be extremely dangerous. And in the internet/social media age...

betsuni

(29,075 posts)
54. Teh Establishment means Democrats, of course, who "embody" fascism, are "envious of Putin," the
Mon Jun 12, 2023, 07:49 PM
Jun 2023

true "bloodthirsty" "authoritarians" who will stop at nothing to silence enemies, shut down the internet, take over the world.

Oh, Glenn.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
62. Oh, Glenn, not nice to meet (the real) you.
Tue Jun 13, 2023, 04:29 PM
Jun 2023

But under the circumstances, how nice that a lot more have been undergoing that unpleasant experience.

Bumpety-bump.

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