Please spare me the "both sides do it" and that Democrats are the same as Republicans.

[Botany]

BTW how many indictments and prison sentences will TFG have? And I think the one prison
sentence under Clinton was for somebody who wouldn't give testimony in the great Whitewater/BJ
hunt. (Susan McDougal)

[emulatorloo]

1. Kick and Rec.

[drray23]

2. and that does not even include the Trump administration.

He probably doubled the gop count all by himself..

[Rebl2]

4. YEP

[peppertree]

5. +1

To say nothing of all his 1/6 cretins - and the miscreants who have yet to be indicted.

[Hekate]

3. KnR

[BOSSHOG]

6. This is where maga math comes in handy

Show this to trump supporters, “looks like a tie to me.” Speaking for all elected republicans past and present, trump proclaims, “I love stupid people.” It’s a business model.

[brooklynite]

7. I'm not aware of such claims.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

15. So you were asleep during 2016?

nt

[betsuni]

16. ...

[tclambert]

8. Politifact says there were 215 criminal indictments of Trump administration people

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/09/facebook-posts/many-more-criminal-indictments-under-trump-reagan-/

and over 1,000 have been arrested for the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack. One could argue that all those people were working for Trump, too.

[Botany]

18. 1,000 people have been charged for the Capitol riot. The DoJ, around 2,000 people were involved.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/25/1165022885/1000-defendants-january-6-capitol-riot

The sprawling investigation has already doubled the FBI's domestic terrorism caseload, yet the Justice Department has indicated that it believes around 2,000 people were involved in the attack. In other words, the department may not even be halfway through its investigation.

*****
And does this cover people like Rudy, Mark Meadows, Stone, all the GOP Congresspersons who gave tours,
the US Capitol Architect, Trump, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and Fox News?

******
I know of one Trumper in Columbus, OH who had all the Trump flags and signs up on his
house who after 1/6/21 took them all down and has put up American flags, Ohio State
"stuff," and planted flowers. I can almost guarantee you he was @ the US Capitol on 1/6/21.

The good thing is that those people who attacked the Capitol and our democracy most used
their phones inside and around the Capitol and all those calls were tracked.

[moondust]

9. Wikipedia says:

The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by numerous scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any president in American history.
~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals

When Reagan was deposed in 1990 regarding Iran-Contra, he claimed “I don’t recall” or “I can’t remember” 88 times.

[reymega life]

10. yea Reagan wasn't the best

but sure had way more government experience than TFG and hes the president that enabled a crack epidemic in the cities in the 80s.

[moondust]

12. And AIDS.

~
U.S. leaders had remained largely silent and unresponsive to the health emergency. And it wasn't until September 1985, four years after the crisis began, that President Ronald Reagan first publicly mentioned AIDS.

But by then, AIDS was already a full-blown epidemic.
~
https://www.history.com/news/aids-epidemic-ronald-reagan

Ignoring and downplaying an epidemic sound familiar?

[calimary]

13. Well, to be fair (which I don't like doing when it comes to Reagan),

old Ronnie was headin’ on down Senility Road during the latter part of his second term. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he genuinely could not remember.

[moondust]

14. True dat.

On the other hand, the LA Times reported that he couldn't recall 124 times--not just 88--and went on to explain:

~
Reagan’s memory lapses, however, never occurred on answers that bolstered his long-standing position that he, himself, had done nothing wrong. Repeatedly, he emphasized that while he might not be able to recall the names of the subordinates he gave instructions to--even at Cabinet rank--he recalled clearly the content of the instructions: “Stay within the law.”

If the former President often could not remember key events, he came well-armed with statistics, which he did recall, to explain why things were hard to remember. He had accumulated some 50 million papers he said several times, and he had met with 400 foreign leaders while in office.
~
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-02-23-mn-1156-story.html

Seems he came well prepared to selectively "forget" some things and remember others.

[ancianita]

11. This continues to be useful campaign lingo for media profit and trumpcult campaigns.

One side is cleaner and fights for people's freedom. The other is generally more dirty and takes freedoms away.

We've run these concepts along with real numbers and polls show that it's finally sunk in across the country, even though its continued use pisses us off.

Thanks for your post, Botany, because it's still good to keep batting this horseshit down. Bookmarking.

[live love laugh]

17. Sharing K&R

[Montauk6]

19. Things that make you go "hmmm" K&R

It hit me the other day.

The Right Wing Machine went all out to successfully kill the Fairness Doctrine. Yet, and who said irony was dead, they've embedded their own version of it in MSM with "well,it's the Beltway" "well, it's both sides" "well, it's a breakdown in bipartisanship," etc. No matter the heinousness of some act by members of the GOP, more than likely, there's some form of "but the Democrats..."

[Botany]

20. "They" are doing it right now with all the bad news..

... of Trump and espionage by saying, "The Biden Administration's Department of Justice" or "The Biden appointed Jack Smith" before talking about the 37 counts that TFG were indicted for story.