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(130,538 posts)Well said. It blowed up real good.
Same here
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)Oh, the lack of humanity!
LoisB
(13,031 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)No wonder he can't keep a job. He's got more than a few screws loose.
Ocelot II
(130,538 posts)He does sometimes tend toward hyperbole, but I don't think he's wrong here.
LoisB
(13,031 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)She has grounds for another lawsuit.
He's wildly offbase about CNN. Olbermann doesn't work well with others.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)a great move.
Biden will beat him again.
The MAGA base is dwindling and too small to achieve a victory in the electoral college.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)But I believe in as much information as possible, and democracy means hearing the trumps, even when we despise them and their beliefs.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)CNN is doing exactly what we would hope the press would do in a liberal democracy.
Trump came off badly.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Of course, it was from those officially, or unofficially, against trump. Most, if not all, of those are probably just as bad as trump, though.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Fortunately we are in the majority when it comes to aligning ourselves with great Democrats like Joe Biden, even if we both feel like we are in a "minority" here on DU.
I can live with that.
Martin Eden
(15,629 posts)Did that "town hall" effectively debunk all the lies spewed by Trump?
If not, then CNN platformed misinformation, not information. In doing so, the public good was harmed, not served.
I did not watch it, so my question is sincere. From what I've read, Trump put on a very predictable performance with too many lies and assertions to be effectively challenged and debuked in a format with one moderator and a Republican (or Republican-leaning) audience.
It sounds like the type of performance we've seen time and time again from this pathological liar, so I really have to question what useful purpose this served.
Context is important here. In normal times, broadcasting "town halls" for the leading candidate(s) in each party would be responsible journalism.
But Jan 6 was not normal. One of our two major political parties is promoting the Big Lie of a stolen election while downplaying the severity of an assault on our nation's Capitol and characterizing violent insurrectionists as true patriots. This is not normal.
Trump and his Party pose an existential threat to American democracy.
Do you disagree?
If not, then please consider the takeaway from CNN's "town hall" among all the voters who might consider giving Donald Trump another four years in the most powerful and prestigious elected office on this planet.
Did that broadcast effectively debunk the Big Lie and all the other lies, doing more to convince potential Trump voters that he's a lying criminal who must be thoroughly rejected by the American electorate?
Or did it do more to normalize this dangerous creature, aiding his quest to re-take the White House?
The former is informational, and responsible journalism.
The latter platformed misinformation, serving those who will transform the USA into a fascist state.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Jack Tapper referred to trump's performance as a "lie fest" just a moment after the end, and then turned to pundits and said "we don't have the time to expose all the lies, but talk about some."
Martin Eden
(15,629 posts)...and potential Trump voters who watched were LESS likely to vote for him.
As I understand it, the audience at the "town hall" were potential Trump voters, includuding Republican-leaning independents.
To assess whether those voters were swayed AGAINST Trump, did they react negatively to Trump's election lies, his take on January 6, and demeaning "jokes" about the woman he sexually abused?
From what I've read, they laughed with Trump (not at him) and were generally very supportive.
I might end up watching if there are conflicting reports about that from credible sources, but I'd rather avoid the nausea or give CNN any of my screen time.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)Martin Eden
(15,629 posts)But I must admit, I remain unconvinced.
I suspect a DU poll would indicate go against CNN, not that that really proves anything.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)their hands saying trump looked worse.
Martin Eden
(15,629 posts)For how millions of swing voters see Trump now.
Thanks for the video.
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)he is usually correct.
He has a large ego and might be hard to work with, but his "stories I promised not to tell" segments on his podcast have a certain ring of truth to them.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)He's made enemies everywhere he's ever worked and been fired with cause time and again.
Saying "massive ego" is rather an understatement. Bad source.
And he's dead wrong about CNN.
CatWoman
(80,290 posts)as that describes you
claudette
(5,455 posts)of his podcast are the musical sections. Cant stand them. And the sports. Cants stand that either
niyad
(132,446 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)Ok I found out hes still alive. He must be so embarrassed.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Cha
(319,087 posts)ecstatic
(35,075 posts)I assume the townhall also provided a hostile work environment for Kaitlan. No concerns there, I guess?
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Kaitlan Collins did her job with remarkable professionalism. She is being praised by people on all fronts, while Trump looked bad.
A big win for America tonight.
FSogol
(47,623 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)You must be joking, right?
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Trump will be excoriated for all the lies he told, including the ones made swearing on the lives of his childrena process which has already begun (Including the Biden campaign using it to fundraise against Trump) and it has also put Trump in further legal peril.
Trump, predictably, hurt himself last night on CNN. Thats good for our party and good for America.
Cha
(319,087 posts)Blue Owl
(59,111 posts)FirstLight
(15,771 posts)He says what many of us might be thinking or inwardly ranting about.
I don't usually do podcasts, might have to listen to this one.
I refused to watch ANY of the debacle tonight. I am livid at CNN for giving TFG ANY airtime OR credibility. ...and from what I've read here the "moderator" actually called him Mr President?!? NO, just. NO.
I haven't watched CNN in a long time, so it wont be hard for me to avoid them in the future, especially if they think the Orange Menace deserves ANY kind of platform or credibility.
edisdead
(3,396 posts)No seriously tell me about how dems arent strong enough in their messaging
. And then tell me about him being too
. Hyperbolic.
cuz that shit is funny as hell.
While we have a major political party looking to dismantle out democracy and thus our freedoms
. We definitely shouldnt appear hyperbolic.
bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)ananda
(35,152 posts)!!!