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Keith Olbermann's tweet (Original Post) YoshidaYui May 2023 OP
"The Hindenburg of TV news" ! Ocelot II May 2023 #1
Yup WiVoter May 2023 #27
"The Hindenburg of TV news" markodochartaigh May 2023 #32
You tell 'em, Keith. Waiting now to hear what Mike Malloy has to say. LoisB May 2023 #2
Keith Olbermann is unhinged. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #3
What did you find unhinged about that tweet? Ocelot II May 2023 #7
I agree with you. LoisB May 2023 #12
He's correct with regard to E. Jean Carroll. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #13
+1. Bash trump, not CNN. trump satisfied his rube base tonight, but no one else. Silent Type May 2023 #16
Yep. Americans will look at that shit-show and will have no doubt that firing him in 2020 was Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #18
I know I'm in a minority on this. But I'd replay that townhall over and over. Silent Type May 2023 #20
Same here. Actually CNN is running it again right now. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #21
Love the ad Biden ran a few hours after. And I saw some tough criticism from GOPers. Silent Type May 2023 #23
Brilliant move by the Biden team. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #25
What about misinformation? Martin Eden May 2023 #33
Should have watched. First, Collins tried to point out his lies. Second, CNN had lie checks and Silent Type May 2023 #37
So then, you're saying his lies were effectively debuked Martin Eden May 2023 #38
Yes, anyone not in his rube base or a diehard GOPer is less likely to vote for him. Silent Type May 2023 #39
So then, CNN actually performed a valuable public service Martin Eden May 2023 #40
Here's an interview with 8 GOPers after town hall. Look at 0:35 where all 8 raise Silent Type May 2023 #41
Well, let's hope that sample size is a reliable indicator Martin Eden May 2023 #43
in this he is 100% absolutely correct lapfog_1 May 2023 #15
No. He is generally unhinged and over-the-top. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #17
funny CatWoman May 2023 #26
The worst parts claudette May 2023 #30
KNR for KO, as always. niyad May 2023 #4
Thanks for this. onecaliberal May 2023 #5
Ted Turner must be turning over in his grave kimbutgar May 2023 #6
lol! nt ecstatic May 2023 #10
Hardly. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #14
TY & KO! Cha May 2023 #8
Right. Didn't cnn *just* fire Don Lemon after accusing him of creating a hostile work environment? ecstatic May 2023 #9
Wha? Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #19
LOL, sure. Posting that in every thread doesn't make it true. FSogol May 2023 #34
"A big win for America"??? panader0 May 2023 #35
Not a bit. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #36
CNN is fucking Unhinged. Cha May 2023 #11
K&R Blue Owl May 2023 #22
I actually miss Keith... A little hyperbolic at times, but... FirstLight May 2023 #24
LMFAO.... He's to.... Hyperbolic? edisdead May 2023 #28
reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and this shit shrivels bigtime🧐 bringthePaine May 2023 #29
Keith is right on all points. Unsurprisingly. dchill May 2023 #31
Love it! Raining flames and going down! ananda May 2023 #42
 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
3. Keith Olbermann is unhinged.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:16 AM
May 2023

No wonder he can't keep a job. He's got more than a few screws loose.

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
7. What did you find unhinged about that tweet?
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:20 AM
May 2023

He does sometimes tend toward hyperbole, but I don't think he's wrong here.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
13. He's correct with regard to E. Jean Carroll.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:23 AM
May 2023

She has grounds for another lawsuit.

He's wildly offbase about CNN. Olbermann doesn't work well with others.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
18. Yep. Americans will look at that shit-show and will have no doubt that firing him in 2020 was
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:33 AM
May 2023

a great move.

Biden will beat him again.

The MAGA base is dwindling and too small to achieve a victory in the electoral college.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
20. I know I'm in a minority on this. But I'd replay that townhall over and over.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:38 AM
May 2023

But I believe in as much information as possible, and democracy means hearing the trumps, even when we despise them and their beliefs.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
21. Same here. Actually CNN is running it again right now.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:41 AM
May 2023

CNN is doing exactly what we would hope the press would do in a liberal democracy.

Trump came off badly.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
23. Love the ad Biden ran a few hours after. And I saw some tough criticism from GOPers.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:45 AM
May 2023

Of course, it was from those officially, or unofficially, against trump. Most, if not all, of those are probably just as bad as trump, though.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
25. Brilliant move by the Biden team.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:50 AM
May 2023

Fortunately we are in the majority when it comes to aligning ourselves with great Democrats like Joe Biden, even if we both feel like we are in a "minority" here on DU.

I can live with that.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
33. What about misinformation?
Thu May 11, 2023, 08:33 AM
May 2023

Did that "town hall" effectively debunk all the lies spewed by Trump?

If not, then CNN platformed misinformation, not information. In doing so, the public good was harmed, not served.

I did not watch it, so my question is sincere. From what I've read, Trump put on a very predictable performance with too many lies and assertions to be effectively challenged and debuked in a format with one moderator and a Republican (or Republican-leaning) audience.

It sounds like the type of performance we've seen time and time again from this pathological liar, so I really have to question what useful purpose this served.

Context is important here. In normal times, broadcasting "town halls" for the leading candidate(s) in each party would be responsible journalism.

But Jan 6 was not normal. One of our two major political parties is promoting the Big Lie of a stolen election while downplaying the severity of an assault on our nation's Capitol and characterizing violent insurrectionists as true patriots. This is not normal.

Trump and his Party pose an existential threat to American democracy.

Do you disagree?

If not, then please consider the takeaway from CNN's "town hall" among all the voters who might consider giving Donald Trump another four years in the most powerful and prestigious elected office on this planet.

Did that broadcast effectively debunk the Big Lie and all the other lies, doing more to convince potential Trump voters that he's a lying criminal who must be thoroughly rejected by the American electorate?

Or did it do more to normalize this dangerous creature, aiding his quest to re-take the White House?

The former is informational, and responsible journalism.

The latter platformed misinformation, serving those who will transform the USA into a fascist state.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
37. Should have watched. First, Collins tried to point out his lies. Second, CNN had lie checks and
Thu May 11, 2023, 09:47 AM
May 2023

Jack Tapper referred to trump's performance as a "lie fest" just a moment after the end, and then turned to pundits and said "we don't have the time to expose all the lies, but talk about some."

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
38. So then, you're saying his lies were effectively debuked
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:26 PM
May 2023

...and potential Trump voters who watched were LESS likely to vote for him.

As I understand it, the audience at the "town hall" were potential Trump voters, includuding Republican-leaning independents.

To assess whether those voters were swayed AGAINST Trump, did they react negatively to Trump's election lies, his take on January 6, and demeaning "jokes" about the woman he sexually abused?

From what I've read, they laughed with Trump (not at him) and were generally very supportive.

I might end up watching if there are conflicting reports about that from credible sources, but I'd rather avoid the nausea or give CNN any of my screen time.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
40. So then, CNN actually performed a valuable public service
Thu May 11, 2023, 03:49 PM
May 2023

But I must admit, I remain unconvinced.

I suspect a DU poll would indicate go against CNN, not that that really proves anything.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
41. Here's an interview with 8 GOPers after town hall. Look at 0:35 where all 8 raise
Thu May 11, 2023, 04:04 PM
May 2023

their hands saying trump looked worse.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
43. Well, let's hope that sample size is a reliable indicator
Thu May 11, 2023, 04:23 PM
May 2023

For how millions of swing voters see Trump now.

Thanks for the video.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
15. in this he is 100% absolutely correct
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:27 AM
May 2023

he is usually correct.

He has a large ego and might be hard to work with, but his "stories I promised not to tell" segments on his podcast have a certain ring of truth to them.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. No. He is generally unhinged and over-the-top.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:30 AM
May 2023

He's made enemies everywhere he's ever worked and been fired with cause time and again.

Saying "massive ego" is rather an understatement. Bad source.

And he's dead wrong about CNN.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
30. The worst parts
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:30 AM
May 2023

of his podcast are the musical sections. Can’t stand them. And the sports. Cants stand that either

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
6. Ted Turner must be turning over in his grave
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:19 AM
May 2023

Ok I found out he’s still alive. He must be so embarrassed.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
9. Right. Didn't cnn *just* fire Don Lemon after accusing him of creating a hostile work environment?
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:22 AM
May 2023

I assume the townhall also provided a hostile work environment for Kaitlan. No concerns there, I guess?

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
19. Wha?
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:35 AM
May 2023

Kaitlan Collins did her job with remarkable professionalism. She is being praised by people on all fronts, while Trump looked bad.

A big win for America tonight.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
36. Not a bit.
Thu May 11, 2023, 09:08 AM
May 2023

Trump will be excoriated for all the lies he told, including the ones made swearing on the lives of his children—a process which has already begun (Including the Biden campaign using it to fundraise against Trump) and it has also put Trump in further legal peril.

Trump, predictably, hurt himself last night on CNN. That’s good for our party and good for America.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
24. I actually miss Keith... A little hyperbolic at times, but...
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:47 AM
May 2023

He says what many of us might be thinking or inwardly ranting about.

I don't usually do podcasts, might have to listen to this one.

I refused to watch ANY of the debacle tonight. I am livid at CNN for giving TFG ANY airtime OR credibility. ...and from what I've read here the "moderator" actually called him Mr President?!? NO, just. NO.

I haven't watched CNN in a long time, so it wont be hard for me to avoid them in the future, especially if they think the Orange Menace deserves ANY kind of platform or credibility.

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
28. LMFAO.... He's to.... Hyperbolic?
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:03 AM
May 2023

No seriously tell me about how dems aren’t strong enough in their messaging…. And then tell me about him being too…. Hyperbolic.

cuz that shit is funny as hell.

While we have a major political party looking to dismantle out democracy and thus our freedoms…. We definitely shouldn’t appear hyperbolic.

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