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RFK Jr. polling at 20%. Erin Burnett Outfront up next. 7:15 PM EST (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2023 OP
Well some people are still watching CNN exploit a worthless poll from someone who won't win a JohnSJ Apr 2023 #1
I hope you are right. applegrove Apr 2023 #8
One poll means very little.. JohnSJ Apr 2023 #16
Oh please ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #17
More bullshit...sigh. He should run as Republican...and I read some polls and most of the voters Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #2
Look behind him and see a Republican. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #3
Wait till he opens his mouth Bucky Apr 2023 #4
We need to POUND the fact that Steve Bannon RegulatedCapitalistD Apr 2023 #5
Meh. Who cares? He's not going to get the nomination. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #6
He won't win a single delegate in a single state. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #7
I think he might win a single delegate in a single state, at least-- DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #15
Where, in his own home? Xavier Breath Apr 2023 #9
Of the great many things I am not worried about Sympthsical Apr 2023 #10
+1 yardwork Apr 2023 #13
It's all because of name recognition right now Poiuyt Apr 2023 #11
Yup. He was blessed with a great, great name DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #14
The acorn may not fall far from the tree, but sometimes it is carried far away DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #12
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
1. Well some people are still watching CNN exploit a worthless poll from someone who won't win a
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 07:25 PM
Apr 2023

single primary contest.

RFK jr ‘s family won’t support him. That says volumes

and I remain skeptical that anyone who says they are a Democrat is supporting him

This is from an anti vaxer, applauded by Bannon, and praising Tucker Carlson for his bravery

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
17. Oh please
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 02:33 PM
Apr 2023

The poll was rubbish, done on behalf of a rubbish media outlet, for rubbish reasons.

Like what we're seeing now.

Fox commissioned that poll not to get the mood of the country, but to find some kind of way to promote a stupid and dishonest "Biden in trouble/Democrats in disarray" narrative.

And now we're seeing how it works: Fox does the poll and puts the chum in the water by talking about their useless poll's results on the air (and it is useless, since it has an unacceptable margin of error--never take a poll seriously if that margin is over 3%).

The stupid brigade of the anti-Democratic left, who don't understand maths or use any critical thinking at all, got their knickers in a twist about it, as they always do because they're always ready to believe the worst about Democrats.

CNN, ever watchful for anything to feed into their own long-running fondness for a "Democratic POTUS in trouble/Democrats in disarray" narrative, found enough idiots "getting excited" about AntiFacts rfk the lesser. Now they're expanding the Fox propaganda, because "some are saying." Never mind that the only "some" doing that talking are either rw propagandists or half-wits in the general public.

Now the John Public morons are again talking about the rubbish poll results because "more respectable" CNN has. So it will seep over to the other corporate lapdog media outlets and chattering classes, and become "a thing."

Congratulations. You're perpetuating the very narrative that Fox wanted you to talk about.

All this over a poll 8 months out from actual primary season, when polls are notorious for being unreliable, and only done to create BS media narratives. And worst of all: A rubbish poll showing a candidate getting a laughable 19% from Democrats themselves. Do you realize that if you held a poll tomorrow asking people if the earth was a spheroid or flat, 19% would probably answer flat?

I don't get why so many Americans can't get some perspective based on reality. It would work wonders to kill narratives like this in their tracks.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
2. More bullshit...sigh. He should run as Republican...and I read some polls and most of the voters
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 07:42 PM
Apr 2023

were Trump supporters...either GOP types or Libertarians.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
4. Wait till he opens his mouth
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 07:46 PM
Apr 2023

At least this will get the rest of the Kennedy family up off the bench and back into the public square

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
15. I think he might win a single delegate in a single state, at least--
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 09:30 PM
Apr 2023

especially if President Joe Biden does not appear on the New Hampshire primary ballot because New Hampshire cannot be made to follow the Democratic primary schedule, since Republicans control the state...


I expect President Joe Biden to win handily in New Hampshire on a "write-in" vote,
if his name is not on the primary ballot.

Whether RFK Jr. wins a single delegate is a smaller question, compared with "will his candidacy continue until there is a single primary", IMHO.

Both his father and his uncle had serious ideological issues, as well as great groundswells of grass-roots party supporters which were demanding their candidacies when they ran for president. RFK Jr. has neither.

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
11. It's all because of name recognition right now
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 09:14 PM
Apr 2023

"Oh, he's a Kennedy. He must be good."

Wait until they hear him talk. I just hope he doesn't do too much damage in the meantime.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
14. Yup. He was blessed with a great, great name
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 09:22 PM
Apr 2023

but squandered it--- and now may be a conduit for various dangerous communicable diseases...


 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
12. The acorn may not fall far from the tree, but sometimes it is carried far away
Thu Apr 27, 2023, 09:19 PM
Apr 2023

by rabid anti-vax squirrels.... as is the case of RFK Jr.


Why anyone feels that a candidate polling 19% or 20% against an incumbent who is outpolling him by more than 3 to 1,
is worthy of any note whatsoever is beyond me.


Let me put this into perspective:

At this point in the 1967, RFK Jr's father was ahead of President Johnson in the polls for the 1968 Democratic presidential nomination...

At this point in 1979, his uncle Ted was leading President Carter in polling for 1980 by a margin of more than 2-to-1!

And neither of them were declared candidates at the time.


In comparison, 19% or 20% is a piss-poor showing, and clearly there is no great desire for his candidacy.


RFK Jr. will be very lucky to become even a "footnote in history".

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