Feinstein absence dooms Biden rule that cuts pollution from heavy duty trucks - Ro Khanna

[Nelliedog]

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[Effete Snob]

1. How did it get to the floor without 60 votes?

Inquiring minds want to know how this got to the Senate floor in the first place.

Did Schumer forget how to count?

But I guess we aren't going to post the response Tweets pointing that out on DU, now are we?

Gosh, do you think Biden will sign it?

[dsc]

5. Because it is one of the codified exceptions to the filibuster

the law they used specifically sets up that it passes with 50 votes and that the majority leader can't keep it off the floor. In other words, the filibuster is even more pro GOP than even I thought previously. So, here are the exceptions that I know of.

Reconciliation (mostly financial stuff), appointments, striking regulations under the law used here, overturning DC government decisions (that used to require only one house of Congress so that is an improvement). Notice anything about this list. It is pretty much a GOP wet dream. Only the first two help us.

[GregariousGroundhog]

14. This falls within the purview of the Congressional Review Act

The Congressional Review Act requires the executive branch to submit new regulations to Congress for their review and provides Congress with expedited procedures to potentially overturn such regulations within 60 legislative days following submission.

As part of the CRA, it only takes 30 Senators to bring a disapproval resolution overturning regulations to the Senate floor, and the disapproval resolution is guaranteed an up-or-down vote after ten hours of debate.

[Omnipresent]

2. I know Feinstein is absent, but...

Shumer should be able to count votes, before putting something like this up for a vote.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

3. I wonder if this was a bone for Manchin

He's been complaining about not getting his way after supporting the IRA last year. He gets to vote no, shows he's standing up to Biden over fossil fuels, and nothing happens because Biden vetoes the bill.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. Not sure it can be vetoed

See post #14

It looks like Manchin had a poison pill inserted into the IRA language, to be able to reverse engineer any executive branch regulations coming out of the bill.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

19. I'm reading that Biden threatenend to veto it yesterday.

From the Hill:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3973788-white-house-threatens-veto-of-resolution-to-nix-biden-truck-pollution-regulation/

[Fiendish Thingy]

21. Thank goodness for small favours. Nt

[Hortensis]

26. Yup. And they all know it.

[dsc]

6. He had no choice

it is a privileged resolution under the law.

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. See post #14

It was out of Schumer’s hands.

[BannonsLiver]

4. "AGeIsM!111"

[NotVeryImportant]

7. She's only damaging her legacy at this point.

I hope someone is able to help her get this resolved.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

10. No, she's not.

Dianne Feinstein has a sterling record of writing and advancing legislation into law, which makes her a true progressive.

Her critics are making themselves look bad. Very bad.

Shame!

[dem4decades]

28. She should either do her job or resign. It is her that's looking bad at this point.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

29. Not at all.

Did you make the same argument about John Fetterman?

Dianne Feinstein is recovering from shingles. Not a heart-attack or a stroke or cancer. Fucking shingles.

The attacks on her are an embarrassment and way (way) out of line.

[NickB79]

33. So you don't believe reports saying she is showing signs of dementia?

Because that's something you don't recover from.

[ripcord]

40. I have heard her memory isn't what it was

But I have never heard of any dementia diagnosis, were these reports from doctors or just random people who have no basis to make such a diagnosis?

[Just A Box Of Rain]

41. No, I don't believe Feinstein has dementia. She has had shingles.

People recover from shingles.

[Demsrule86]

30. I don't agree...she needs to leave the Senate or her legacy will be tarnished...we need the vote on

the floor and for judges. It is time.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

31. I could not disagree more.

Not unless she decides it is time.

Otherwise I back Dianne Feinstein (my Senator) 100%.

Not a good idea to lose one of the most effective members of the Senate and especially of the Judiciary Committee. Too valuable.

[onenote]

45. Fourteen judges have been confirmed in her absence.

With Fetterman and McConnell both having returned, we still have a 50-49 edge. And another 8 judges have been approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee and added to the rather long list of judges awaiting floor action -- most of those judges were pending floor action even when Feinstein was present.

[Hortensis]

27. Could turn out to be. BUT, let's not blow off Rep. Khanna's efforts.

He knows Biden can veto it, and everything else we don't want passed. Just MAYBE Khanna should have put that in his tweet. So people who trust him to tell them the truth understand the situation.

But he didn't.

And that's the bottom line for HIS behavior.

[MichMan]

8. Since it can be vetoed by the president, it's a moot point.

Rep. Khanna is well aware

[emulatorloo]

25. Half-truth hatchet job and twitter rage-bait. Of course Rep. Khanna knows better. But that

didn’t stop the Representative.

[W_HAMILTON]

46. He might know better, but he knows EXACTLY what he is doing.

And given that he has a horse in the race if Feinstein were to step down and Newsom had to name a replacement, it's especially shameful and sleazy politics that he is playing right now.

[Nixie]

49. Exactly. It's very sleazy what he is doing. There are several

scenarios where he benefits if Feinstein quits, so he is not an honest broker here, but that is not surprising. This is just grandstanding chum and we know what that BS is about.

[2naSalit]

9. Ro Khana...

Much as I came to like him in the past couple years is damaging my view of him. As campaign manager for Barbara Lee, he is aggressively attacking the Senator when it really isn't appropriate.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

12. He really is aggressively attacking Senator Feinstein when it isn't appropriate.

[Cha]

22. I never liked him.. for reasons I won't

go into now.

TY

[Sympthsical]

23. Because Newsom promised to appoint a black woman to any vacancy

Should Feinstein resign, Lee is right there, and if Newsom were to appoint anyone else . . . awwwwkward.

A little bit of a Californian shitshow.

That's kind of why I've sort of tapped out on the Feinstein stuff. Resign, stay, have your staff sit on each others shoulders in a trenchcoat. Whatever.

[2naSalit]

24. None of this sort of thing...

Was ever demanded of any male Senator. RK can sit down and cool his jets. I think he's out of line. He's fomenting a sense of unreliability about her and that's as bad as the magats.

[womanofthehills]

34. Not a senator, but Justice Breyer was pushed to retire

Because he was 83.

[Zeitghost]

61. That's a different situation

In that Feinstein is in a stable Blue seat. Her replacement will be a Democrat and a progressive one at that no matter when she leaves office.

The same is not true for SC Justices, as we all learned with the untimely death of Justice Ginsburg. The timing of an opening on the Supreme Court is crucial.

[GregariousGroundhog]

11. Ro Khanna is wrong here

Even though then Senate may have voted to overturn the rule, Biden can veto the disapproval resolution. Unless Biden declines to issue a veto, that heavy truck pollution rule will remain in effect.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. Can it be vetoed?

Your post #14 seemed to imply it couldn’t be vetoed- it’s regulation, not a law- it’s a check on the executive branch by the legislative branch.

[onenote]

20. Yes it can be -- and will be -- vetoed.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10023#:~:text=If%20a%20CRA%20joint%20resolution,effect%20or%20continue%20in%20effect.

President Biden has issued one veto thus far -- and it was of a Congressional Review Act resolution. https://www.eenews.net/articles/biden-vetoes-clean-water-act-resolution/#:~:text=President%20Joe%20Biden%20on%20Thursday,the%20Clean%20Water%20Act%27s%20reach.

This will be his second veto.

[JohnSJ]

13. Ro Khanna's whose good friends are Peter Theil, and others who support desantis. Thank goodness he

isn’t in my district, Zoe Lofgren is. A Democrat who doesn’t use republicans for fund raisers

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/rep-khanna-under-fire-over-fundraiser-by-gop-backer/amp/

[Me.]

32. Also

His (rather...his wife's) stock buys bother me.

[betsuni]

48. +1

[Cha]

50. Mahalo, John, for the Reality Check!!

[JohnSJ]

51. ...........

[lapucelle]

58. David Sachs hosted an at-home fundraiser for Ro Khanna back in March.

[JohnSJ]

59. Thanks

[onenote]

15. Someone should send Ro a copy of the Constitutional provision describing vetos

Feinstein's absence won't make a bit of difference in the end since Biden said in advance he intends to veto the resolution.

[Lancero]

35. Looks to me that Manchins vote was what overturned it.

Then again, I haven't jumped on the RW "Bash Dianne" train that's been popular here recently.

[Retrograde]

36. Khanna badly wants to be senator, IMHO

and he realizes that his chances against Schiff and Porter are slim. So he's putting pressure on Feinstein to "encourage" her to resign, so Newsom can appoint Barbara Lee as her replacement, then finagling his way into her seat later. Khanna represents the district just south of mine: I'm glad I didn't get redistricted into it.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

37. Khanna's post is dishonest. Biden will veto it.

Honestly, Khanna is one of my least favorite Dem congresspeople. Too many bad ideas and bad decisions.

[Hekate]

38. Really, Rho? What are you and your fellow progressives doing to bring in the votes?

Manchin and Sinema — there’s two Senators right there. Have you gotten to know them and have you tried your persuasion on them? Then, of course you are in the House — have you tried pulling together all the Dems to thwart McCarthy?

[Tarc]

39. She needs to resign, like, yesterday

We cannot afford absentee Senators with this razor-thin majority.

[onenote]

43. Fettterman was absent for several months. Did you want him to resign?

He was given an opportunity to return.
Feinstein should be accorded the same opportunity.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

44. 100%

[Tarc]

52. Apples and oranges

She can't recover from being 89.

[onenote]

53. You don't know that.

Unless you're her doctor and have examined her. And I'm guessing you aren't and haven't.

In the nine months prior to her shingles diagnosis, she had missed only a handful of votes fewer than several of her colleagues, including Bernie. Specifically, out of almost 300 votes held on the Senate floor from April 2022 to January 3, 2023, she missed 2 votes. Of the 24 votes in 2023 held before her diagnosis she missed two. In the 117th Congress she had introduced more legislation than many of her colleagues and had seen more of those bill through to passage. She had introduced major legislation in 2023.

But you didn't know that did you?

And while I hope Fetterman never misses another day, a stroke victim with long-term issues with depression is a pretty strong candidate for missing more time. I don't think that means he should resign, retire or not run for reelection in six years.

[Tarc]

55. I do know that, as does any sensible person

Run along.

[onenote]

56. Nice fact free response.

[edisdead]

57. That is your response? Seriously?

You just got thoroughly owned on facts and that’s what you came up with? The words you are looking for are: “geez I hadn’t thought about it like that. You may be right.”

[Tarc]

62. You gave no facts, kid

he facts are simple; we have an aged politician unable to fulfil the duties she was elected to do.

time to get her out.

Simple as that, the catering to the baby boomer generation needs to stop.

Run along.

[edisdead]

63. Who gave no facts?

You don’t even know who you are responding to….

And “Kid”?

Oh you are a real gem.

[Tarc]

65. Still chirping?

I hear a block is a good cure for that.

Buh-bye.

[edisdead]

66. you literally replied days later...

[GuppyGal]

42. I stopped caring what this gentleman says for quite a while. That will not change.

As a matter of fact I'm trashing threads with his name in it. I already know the kinds of things he likes to say.

[lapucelle]

47. ...

[Me.]

54. Boy, He Really Wants Her Job

[Me.]

60. I Do Believe Her Time Is Coming To An End

But i will also say I have minded how he has hounded her of late....his amnition is snarling his brain. And I'd like him tobe reminded that he's a member of the house and not a keader in either chamber.

[MrsCoffee]

64. Manchin tries to dooms Biden agenda again.

There fixed that for him.