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(62,136 posts)Thread Reader page for those who won't look at Twitter:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1643776088391446528.html
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Mike Niendorff
(3,650 posts)And, if so, is this the same Rebekeh Jones who:
* refused to rig covid data for DeSantis? And was then fired for it?
* ran against Matt Gaetz in 2022?
Again: is this for real? Because if it is -- HOLY SHIT.
MDN
Qutzupalotl
(15,823 posts)They have a case to sue for retaliation, I would think.
TheRickles
(3,384 posts)TigressDem
(5,126 posts)Rebekeh says her son has never used the handle associated with the threats.
He posted memes CRITICAL of police from his normal account.
He is autistic and recently made a "new friend" on snapchat.
Me thinks he's been framed, just like his mother was.
The messages listed in the warrant involved threats of violence, including attacks on schoolchildren.
Feb. 9: I want to shoot up the school.
Feb. 12: If I get a gun Im gonna shoot up hnms lol an apparent reference to Holley Navarre Middle School, which the youth had previously attended.
Feb. 12: I always keep a knife on me so maybe Ill just stab ppl.
Feb. 12: ...I have no hope in getting better, so why not kill the losers at school.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html#storylink=cpy
TigressDem
(5,126 posts)They are typically seen as a factual news source, but the Miami Herald got access to the unredacted warrant and it shows that it's quite possible someone set up an autistic kid to take a fall.
As the story progresses, we should hear if he's ever had trouble like this before.
FROM MIAMI HERALD
Wednesdays detention marked the boys first arrest. He appears to have been evaluated Wednesday at the regions Juvenile Assessment Center, a centralized screening facility for minors who are charged with a crime. When asked by Circuit Judge David Oberliesen, Jones said she could not afford an attorney for her son, for whom a public defender was appointed. The youth was released to home detention with an electronic monitor. Oberliesen ordered that he have no access to the internet outside of school work. At his mothers request, he will be allowed to play on a local soccer team. The youths arraignment was scheduled for May 3 at the Santa Rosa County Courthouse.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html#storylink=cpy
multigraincracker
(37,651 posts)Dark Ages.
SpankMe
(3,720 posts)Isn't that what Repubs claim Dems are doing? Isn't this hypocritical?
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,710 posts)I would have told you thirty-plus years ago that this republican crap about small government, personal liberty and staying out of your business was bullshit and intended only to apply to wealthy white people.
I would have told you that someday the mask would come off and pukes would reveal themselves for who they really are: the TRUE enemies of freedom. Freedom for anyone who isn't a white conservative, that is.
The puke party has been simmering with racism since Nixon took the Southern democrats into the fold. Trump ripped the mask off and put it all center-stage.
Their accusations are an admission of what THEY are about.
Democrats are groomers and pedophiles? REPUBLISCUMS in Kansas just passed a law over the Governor's veto allowing genital inspections of children, on the suspicion they may be trans-gender.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)GoneOffShore
(18,020 posts)Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
-- Frank Wilhoit
Cha
(319,067 posts)MontanaMama
(24,722 posts)The state of Florida has kidnapped her minor child!
AmBlue
(3,460 posts)As a mom, my heart goes out to her. She needs a ball-buster of an attorney right freaking now!!!
Gavin Newsom was in Florida earlier today.. Maybe he can bring attention to this atrocity!!
wnylib
(26,009 posts)A civil rights lawyer to file a suit against the Florida for violations of her and her son's civil rights. Or, intervention from DOJ.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(22,957 posts)MagickMuffin
(18,318 posts)But we know whats going on!
yonder
(10,293 posts)TheRickles
(3,384 posts)A spokesperson for the Santa Rosa County Sheriff's Office confirmed Thursday morning that Jones' son had been arrested.
SRSO spokeswoman Jillian Durkin said the Sheriff's Office had received reports of a threat from multiple students and that a felony warrant was issued following an investigation of the reports.
Durkin said Jones turned her son in to the Sheriff's Office.
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)moonshinegnomie
(4,019 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)well, that should work out well? Please do tell, what would be the rationale/legal leg to stand on for a sitting President to send U.S. troops into a state and and arrest the elected governor of said state? You'd support this for ANY president correct?
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)DET
(2,499 posts)Further in her twitter feed she posts They took Jack. They took my son. I should have left, Tula. We waited too long. What time and place does that remind you of? Assuming this is true, it needs to be handled by the highest levels of our Government. If anyone should be arrested, it is DeSantis.
by the highest levels of our government? Please be specific. What exactly should be done by said high levels of government?
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)TeamProg
(6,630 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,752 posts)First they took immigrant kids.
Then they took trans kids.
Now political enemys kids!
Why are they not at risk of losing every state in the union?
WHY ARE THEY NOT BEING CALLED THE BABYNAPPER PARTY!!!
They should be looking at losing every state in the union by now!!!
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 6, 2023, 01:32 AM - Edit history (1)
DID IT HAPPEN, WAS THE SON RELEASED?
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I will question this, Is it Real? Did they release the son? When ?
stage left
(3,306 posts)but I believe it. There must be no depth of inhumanity that a Republican can't sink to.
Tickle
(4,131 posts)on the governor rules? Oh come on, this cannot be real.
I talk to Floridians every day and there's no mention of this
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)about it anywhere else either. Disheartening to see how many take a Twitter post (because we all know Twitter is a reliable news source) and run with it like it's gospel. Then wonder how DJT got elected and how the country got where we are.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Silliness.
Initech
(108,782 posts)As will all of these other fascist fuckwads who have enacted this horror and cruelty on us.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 6, 2023, 02:26 AM - Edit history (2)
MO STORIES ANYWHERE ABOUT SON'S ARREST, OR THE RELEASE OF THE SON.
i SPENT AN HOUR SEARCHING, AND FOUND NOTHING...BUT AN ORIGINAL STORY ABOUT THE ARREST.
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NO RELEASE STORY ABOUT THE SON, OR ANYTHING ELSE..
iF THE SON WAS RELEASED THEN THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST 1 STORY ABOUT THAT RELEASE Furtheremore:
If the son was arrested there would be other articles in websites and newspapers about the arrest.....
THERE WERE NO ARTICLES ABOUT ANY ARREST OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TWITTER POST. NONE ANYWHERE!!!
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iF THE SON WAS ARRESTED WOULDN'T THERE BE OTHER STORIES IN OTHER NEWS SOURCES OTHER THAN
TWITTER? (AND ONE OTHER?.............ALSO, WHERE IS PROOF THAT THE SON IS A CRIMINAL? .................
ALSO, CAN THEY TAKE A CHILD ON THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS?.. USALLY A COURT HAS TO DECIDE TO TAKE
A CHILD FROM A PARENT...doesn't it?.....looks to me like a phony story.
LostOne4Ever
(9,752 posts)Mainly because DeSantis.
But this morning i felt like I was duped. If this really happened the news would be all over it.
Thank you for being skeptical.
Nittersing
(8,381 posts)Ha absolutely hates this whistle-blower. She exposed him.
LostOne4Ever
(9,752 posts)The fact that no mainstream media is covering this has me second guessing it.
capital letters and boldface are meant to dispute that the story is being reported? Looks real. I am posting one source.
https://www.dailykos.com stories 2023 4 6 2162400 -Ron-DeSantis-Has-Arrested-Rebekah-Jones-13-Year-Old-Son-for-Posting-a-Meme-Critical-of-Police
I am also curious why Rebekah Jones own account is insufficient for the poster? A mother just reported this as fact.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)The ONLY story that was searchable was about her filing a law suite in March to get her job back. How about a link to an actual story, if one exists, and not an entire site. Which I scanned and found NOTHING even remotely close to the Twitter claims.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)You wonder why people find Twitter posts insufficient? WOW!
Jack the Greater
(616 posts)Kos has deep-sixed this story, perhaps because it cannot be corroborated. You can access the link through Google.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Or even better, use your critical thinking skills to decide if this sounds in any way plausible.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)does DailyKos link, because this is what I found.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/4/6/2162448/-WHAT-HAPPENED-TO-THE-STORY-OF-REBEKAH-JONES-SON-BEING-KIDNAPPED-BY-THE-STATE-OF-FLORIDA
It's really important that a reposter knows that the tweet posted is verified as belonging to the account of the person identified on the tweet. Especially over the next 20 months.
SpamWyzer
(385 posts)to have been correct. Thank you, dude, for telling me to check my facts. LOL
ancianita
(43,307 posts)Are you claiming that the Tweet with her name on is sufficient proof that she is the person behind this Tweet?
Do you know what "shit" the OP headline refers to? Maybe people have to ask the OP what the headline means?
Maybe the OP could have meant the tweet is sufficient, not insufficient?
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Lots of gullible people who just lurve their twitter.
SpamWyzer
(385 posts)gullible people who believe cynicism is a critical position. LOL
Pacifist Patriot
(25,212 posts)No, a court does not have to decide to take a child from a parent. Children can be taken by the government in several different ways.
1) Arrest
2) Baker Act
3) DCS
When my youngest was 13, the local police showed up at my house on a Sunday evening and Baker Acted him. Why? Because he and a group of friends were goofing around texting memes to each other. He sent one that had to do with self-harm. One of his friends took it seriously and called the police without running it by her parents, my son, or his parents (me).
Despite my son telling the cops he was not suicidal, they took him anyway.
A good friend is a psychiatric nurse and was able to tell me where he was most likely taken. I was told to prepare for him to be held for three days before being released, but fortunately a psychiatrist with a head on her shoulders released him within 24 hours.
The authorities can take kids out of school and not inform their parents. It's insane!!!
Lots of tears, anxiety for years, and $1,000 to the "care facility" for the less than a 24 hour stay was the result.
You're damn right the government can take your kid with no warning.
Javaman
(65,710 posts)MineralMan
(151,268 posts)what this is about. I don't use Twitter as a news source.
Some are saying it's on dailykos but I have't been able to find anything on that site. And the links provided in a few posts give a 403 error.
MineralMan
(151,268 posts)It rings false.
orleans
(36,913 posts)here's an excerpt:
A spokesperson for the Santa Rosa County Sheriff's Office confirmed Thursday morning that Jones' son had been arrested.
SRSO spokeswoman Jillian Durkin said the Sheriff's Office had received reports of a threat from multiple students and that a felony warrant was issued following an investigation of the reports.
Durkin said Jones turned her son in to the Sheriff's Office.
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/
SpamWyzer
(385 posts)Ron DeSantis Has Arrested Rebekah Jones 13-Year-Old Son for Posting a ...
Rebekah Jones 13-year-old son was arrested last and taken away from his parents for posting a meme critical of police in regards to school shootings on snap chat. For those who cannot read...
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)want to click your own link. I found Nadda.
Ferryboat
(1,264 posts)followed link and found a posting from someone who was READING the article when it was removed. Story seems to be influx at this moment.
Ferryboat
(1,264 posts)followed link and found a posting from someone who was READING the article when it was removed. Story seems to be influx at this moment.
WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)Right out of a dystopian novel.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)No one can find any corroboration of this.
WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I don't know why people believe the crap posted on twitter.
WhiteTara
(31,260 posts)posted true COVID death numbers in Florida and was threatened by deathsantos then. Now it's in LBN.
Kingofalldems
(40,277 posts)Cetacea
(7,400 posts)Some crow with that wine?
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,955 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(25,212 posts)TigressDem
(5,126 posts)The boy is autistic and recently made a "new friend" on snap chat.
SOMEHOW a user name that is supposedly Jones' son posted threatening messages.... but it is not known how this username is in anyway connected to her son.
Redacted warrant does NOT show this fact that there were two usernames.
He changed his username in Jan - BEFORE these posts were made.
It sounds plausible the kid has been framed.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html
The messages listed in the warrant involved threats of violence, including attacks on schoolchildren.
Feb. 9: I want to shoot up the school.
Feb. 12: If I get a gun Im gonna shoot up hnms lol an apparent reference to Holley Navarre Middle School, which the youth had previously attended. Feb. 12: I always keep a knife on me so maybe Ill just stab ppl.
Feb. 12: ...I have no hope in getting better, so why not kill the losers at school.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html#storylink=cpy
An unredacted version of the warrant, obtained by the Herald, shows the threatening messages were sent by a username that was different than the one Jones son used to send the memes. The document does not say how authorities determined both usernames are linked to the same account. The redacted version circulated by authorities does not reveal that there were two different usernames involved. Jones provided a screenshot of her sons account, which showed he changed to his current username in January, before the threats were made. She said he has never used the handle associated with the threatening messages.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article274038075.html#storylink=cpy
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Making Twitter "News" and reacting with outrage while buying hook line and sinker a single post without an ounce of evidence anywhere but Twitter to back it up is indeed terrifying. It could cause the population to stop thinking rationally and do something crazy, like elect a reality TV failed businessman!
Oh, wait.....
Jack the Greater
(616 posts)Upthevibe
(10,180 posts)My initial reaction is, if there's a way, for her and her family to move from Florida. I realize that people have family members and friends whom it would difficult to leave.
I'm not AT ALL piling on the red states and the progressives who live there. I completely understand that people are where they are for a variety of reasons. Once again, I KNOW not everyone can leave.
I was fortunate that I was able to leave my home state of TX in '88 (when I was 31) because my grandmother passed away and left me and my siblings some money. Not a lot, but enough. I had lived in California in '75 when my then husband had joined the Navy and our first duty station was in Long Beach. That's when I fell in love with CA!
Times were very different back then. I was a lot younger and jobs in California were abundant in my field (the hospitality industry). It seems that making a move now would be a lot more complicated and expensive. Having said that, if possible, I hope this lady and her family can get out......
progressoid
(53,179 posts)interesting.
DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)We have abortion rights and LGBTQ protections. Our AG is gay and the Governor's daughter is gay. We also have jobs.
CaptainTruth
(8,200 posts)From the Pensacola News Journal:
What is Jones' son accused of doing?
An incident report released Thursday afternoon by the Santa Rosa Sheriffs Office allege that the 13-year-old made repeated threats to shoot up Holley Navarre Middle School and to stab students who angered him.
Investigators interviewed multiple students who spoke with the teenager, as well as those who saw messages he posted on social media. In the messages to his friends, the teenager made the following statements, among others:
I want to shoot up the school.
If I get a gun Im gonna shoot up hnms lol.
Im getting a wrath and natural selection shirt so maybe but I dont think many ppl know what the columbine shooters look like.
Okay so its been like 3-4 weeks since I got on my new antidepressants and they arent working but theyre suppose to by now so I have no hope in getting better so why not kill the losers at school.
The teenager told one of his friends that he planned to shoot up the school the Thursday before Spring Break but there were too many things going on so he postponed it until March 31.
https://archive.ph/2023.04.06-185119/https://www.pnj.com/story/news/crime/2023/04/06/rebekah-jones-son-arrested-in-florida-what-we-know-about-digital-threat-allegations/70088634007/