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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:45 AM Feb 2023

Trump and his voters are a cult. All cults work the same.

When the leader of a cult is destroyed, the cult fades away. One day Trump is going to be destroyed and MAGA will fade away. History tells us so.

Manson cult.

Jim Jones cult.

Koresh cult.

Bin Laden cult.

The list goes on and on.

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Trump and his voters are a cult. All cults work the same. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Feb 2023 OP
Scientology no_hypocrisy Feb 2023 #1
And John Birch Society? Still here and causing damage. SharonAnn Feb 2023 #15
The John Birch Society was founded and financed in part by Robert Welch Jr. spike jones Feb 2023 #28
The West Coast epicenter of the JBS was in Orange County, Ca, and financed by fried chicken dinners Brother Buzz Feb 2023 #47
No surprise. Many cult followers grew up as children going to Sunday school, vlyons Feb 2023 #2
Apple Cult ItsjustMe Feb 2023 #3
LOL DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #30
This was written 16 years ago, not much has changed ItsjustMe Feb 2023 #34
Thx for your opinion! DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #39
There are still sightings of Elvis though /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #4
Elvis is everywhere. SunSeeker Feb 2023 #24
"Elvis needs boats! Elvis needs boats! Elvis needs boats!" hatrack Feb 2023 #38
2000 year-old cult has followers among us still today sanatanadharma Feb 2023 #5
In some of those cases the leaders took their cult members with them, Ocelot II Feb 2023 #6
I agree Trump voters will find somebody new to follow like Desantis the Dork. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #8
Except for L. Ron Hubbard, Ben Ammi Ben-Israel, William Miller, Joseph Smith, John Calvin ... HardPort Feb 2023 #7
Trump and his people are a cult. The people who paid for his elevation and now fund his fascist cult Ford_Prefect Feb 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #32
Bin laden's cult is still going JT45242 Feb 2023 #10
They will worship him until the last of them is dead Orrex Feb 2023 #11
24 months and counting republianmushroom Feb 2023 #12
Over one thousand indicted. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #13
do you have an accurate count or are you just throwing out numbers. republianmushroom Feb 2023 #14
That only leaves 73,558,030 Magats. gab13by13 Feb 2023 #16
Here You Go ProfessorGAC Feb 2023 #17
Thank you. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #19
Good, now you can keep counting and we shall have an accurate number. republianmushroom Feb 2023 #20
Odd Reply ProfessorGAC Feb 2023 #21
did you see the number posted by republianmushroom Feb 2023 #23
Believe gab13by13 was referring to the number who voted for Тяцмp KS Toronado Feb 2023 #29
How about we just say there's a lot and forget it. Butterflylady Feb 2023 #33
Where are you getting that number from? Is that just the people who were at the capitol that day? Autumn Feb 2023 #18
My post was about trump and his cult following. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #22
Ah. So it isn't the responsibility of the poster who says awful things Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #36
Calling out defeatism is not awful. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #41
No. It was not taken out of context. The posts were quite clear, quite overt, disgraceful, Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #42
You are wrong and you are not the judge and jury of DU. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #43
It's a despicable thing to do. And I have no problem. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #44
TFG supporters are idiots LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #25
Also cults: "The world is ending tomorrow at 8 am". 9am: "we got the date wrong" mahina Feb 2023 #26
The problem is Trump has made hate acceptable dlk Feb 2023 #27
Fascism would be my guess KS Toronado Feb 2023 #31
Fascism, indeed dlk Feb 2023 #48
I think a lot of MAGA folks will shift their loyalty to DeSantis. CaptainTruth Feb 2023 #35
Fascists will not fade away. . . h2ebits Feb 2023 #37
Unless the cult leader is seen as a martyr. Midnight Writer Feb 2023 #40
I totally expect Trump to go down like Koresh if he's ever arrested. Initech Feb 2023 #45
That's the difference between cults and religion Kaleva Feb 2023 #46

spike jones

(2,020 posts)
28. The John Birch Society was founded and financed in part by Robert Welch Jr.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:24 PM
Feb 2023

His money came from selling Junior Mints.

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
47. The West Coast epicenter of the JBS was in Orange County, Ca, and financed by fried chicken dinners
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 06:19 PM
Feb 2023

Walter Knott, of Knott's Berry Farm fame, was the asshole mover and shaker in the Orange County JBS movement. Hell, even Nixon despised him.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
2. No surprise. Many cult followers grew up as children going to Sunday school,
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 11:51 AM
Feb 2023

where they were taught to accept Christian beliefs by faith alone, not by reason and analysis. Not a big leap that as adults they accepted whatever their cult leader said by faith alone. Swear allegience to the cult leader and never ask questions or challenge the evidence of what the cult leader says is "truth."

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
30. LOL
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:33 PM
Feb 2023

Probably created by Bill Gates and microsoft to demean apple........

My son had every apple computer from the first one......Friends who were brainwashed by Microsoft would harass him and laugh at him.

He started buying Apple Stock right from the first when he was a teenager. He had acquired quite a bit by the time he was 20.

He still has it, and often kids his friends that stuck with Bill Gates Groupies...............

I would like to calculate what 100 shares of Apple stock are currently worth, being bought early on, and do the same with Microsoft.......

Side by side, apples to apples. Pardon the pun.........

I am not savvy enough to do it myself, maybe someone out there could research and run the numbers............

 

ItsjustMe

(11,971 posts)
34. This was written 16 years ago, not much has changed
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:57 PM
Feb 2023

Apple fanboys have the same mindset as your average Trump supporter.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/IndustryInfo/story?id=2804821&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

What I'm talking about are the thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of people out there whose relationship with Apple is obsessive and, one would think, unhealthy -- the people who, like crazed sports fans, will fight to the death defending a team that doesn't even know their names.

For years, the standing joke about these folks has been that they've "drunk the Kool-Aid," or been trapped in the black hole of the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Zone, or that they are the geek version of Scientologists. But, as amusing as that is, that characterization has never seemed quite right.

It may have all of the nasty features of other cults: the demand of total allegiance, punishment of any deviation from the accepted orthodoxy, a messianic leader who is assumed faultless and wise in the face of any evidence to the contrary, disproportionate attacks on doubters, heretics and other outsiders, a siege mentality maintained even in victory, and a deep pride in being among the select few. Scary stuff, indeed.

Ocelot II

(130,538 posts)
6. In some of those cases the leaders took their cult members with them,
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Feb 2023

which sort of explains why they "faded away" - Jim Jones, Koresh, and don't forget Marshall Applewhite. When TFG finally goes to his toasty-warm eternal reward, he won't be taking all 60 million with him because many will have attached their lips to the plump hindquarters of Ron DeSantis or some other freak hoping to follow in TFG's lift-enhanced footsteps. Not all will fade away, I'm afraid; all TFG did was make it socially acceptable to be an ignorant racist asshole.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
8. I agree Trump voters will find somebody new to follow like Desantis the Dork.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 12:34 PM
Feb 2023

It will not be the same as they follow Trump. Trump is a freak of nature. I have never seen so many Americans follow someone to their destruction or deaths like the people who followed Trump. It was blind nihilism. Mass delusion. Tens of millions of Americans literally lost touch with reality. I doubt we will see anything like the following of Trump any time soon.

HardPort

(1,474 posts)
7. Except for L. Ron Hubbard, Ben Ammi Ben-Israel, William Miller, Joseph Smith, John Calvin ...
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Feb 2023

And dozens, likely hundreds, more, you are 100 percent correct!

Ford_Prefect

(8,613 posts)
9. Trump and his people are a cult. The people who paid for his elevation and now fund his fascist cult
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 12:52 PM
Feb 2023

are not likely to just go away. They've been building the basis of a Theocratic fascist state for over 40 years. They aren't going to stop until none of us has any choice about anything at all, let alone access to government.

Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #9)

JT45242

(4,043 posts)
10. Bin laden's cult is still going
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:01 PM
Feb 2023

We keep killing offshoot leaders, because they keep taking the place if the old one.

Al Qaeda and it's cousins are still a threat. Boca Haram. The Islamic state and it's many versions and the Taliban...

Orrex

(67,112 posts)
11. They will worship him until the last of them is dead
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:17 PM
Feb 2023

And they cannot be forcibly liberated from their KKKult, because they’ve made it fundamental to their identity.

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
14. do you have an accurate count or are you just throwing out numbers.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:28 PM
Feb 2023

If you have an accurate count post it.

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
20. Good, now you can keep counting and we shall have an accurate number.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:41 PM
Feb 2023

and over 1,000 was just that throwing out numbers. Thank you

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
23. did you see the number posted by
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:53 PM
Feb 2023

gab13by13 9:32 AM #16
And you didn't think that was odd or inaccurate ? There have been a lot of numbers just thrown out there.
Now for those that were just tossing out number can keep an accurate count.
Thank you

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
18. Where are you getting that number from? Is that just the people who were at the capitol that day?
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:39 PM
Feb 2023

Because there has not been over 1000 people who were in charge of inciting the insurrection indicted.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
22. My post was about trump and his cult following.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 01:45 PM
Feb 2023

Then someone starts trouble by posting something not related to my post. This is why some posts get out of hand. People get upset and then say things they would not usually say.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
36. Ah. So it isn't the responsibility of the poster who says awful things
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 03:20 PM
Feb 2023

over and over and over at all. If someone says something he finds upsetting, how can he possibly stop himself from saying vile things?

So the solution is that everyone has to be very careful not to say something that upsets that poster. Because that would be "starting trouble."

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
41. Calling out defeatism is not awful.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 05:17 PM
Feb 2023

Accusing me of saying awful things over and over and over again is not true. That is an attack.

Your claim that I attacked the mental health of another poster was taken way out of context. I made it clear I was concerned about the poster. I actually posted that. I admit I could have stated my concern in a better way. But in no way was I directly attacking the mental health of another poster. If I was I would have said things like you are nuts, You are crazy, out of your mind. You are mentally ill, get help. I did not say that. I have never said anything like that.

I truly thought something was wrong by the way the poster was responding and also not responding to my posts and I became concerned.

Your disagreement with me is about our opinions on whether trump and the coup plotters will be indicted.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
42. No. It was not taken out of context. The posts were quite clear, quite overt, disgraceful,
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 05:31 PM
Feb 2023

and it happened multiple times.

I don't really care about your opinions about trump and the coup plotters.

When a poster questions the mental health of DUers who disagree with him, I'm going to call that out. Because that's a despicable thing to do.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
43. You are wrong and you are not the judge and jury of DU.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 05:48 PM
Feb 2023

I explained myself clearly. I am being honest. If you can't accept that, that is your problem.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
44. It's a despicable thing to do. And I have no problem.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 05:53 PM
Feb 2023

But nice try with the judge and jury reference.

mahina

(20,645 posts)
26. Also cults: "The world is ending tomorrow at 8 am". 9am: "we got the date wrong"
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:12 PM
Feb 2023

Never underestimate a power of the human mind to rationalize.

It’s up to us individually to be agents of reality. With some tough love.

dlk

(13,248 posts)
27. The problem is Trump has made hate acceptable
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 02:22 PM
Feb 2023

Unfortunately, the deep veins of American racism and misogyny will remain long after Trump is no longer headline news. The underlying issues that have contributed to the MAGA cult are complicated and not easily resolved; this cult is merely a symptom of something much larger.

CaptainTruth

(8,202 posts)
35. I think a lot of MAGA folks will shift their loyalty to DeSantis.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 03:00 PM
Feb 2023

That's what I'm seeing on social media, anyway. A lot of them don't see MAGA as being specific to Trump, they see it as a larger movement & they'll support anyone who advances the MAGA agenda.

h2ebits

(1,002 posts)
37. Fascists will not fade away. . .
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 03:24 PM
Feb 2023

We the People need to kick them to the curb and squelch the movement seeking to destroy our democracy.

Initech

(108,783 posts)
45. I totally expect Trump to go down like Koresh if he's ever arrested.
Sat Feb 18, 2023, 06:16 PM
Feb 2023

Trump has his own private army with the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. And they'd happily take up arms and barricade outside Mar-A-Shithole and go down in a fiery blaze of glory.

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