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Takket

(23,715 posts)
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:04 PM Feb 2023

So what is China really doing with this balloon thing anyway?

Is this just psychological warfare? Some way for making Biden look "weak" or trying to spark discord in Washington?

Don't tell me they sent those balloons up there to actually gather intelligence because I'm sure China already has surveillance satellites in orbit with spy technologies that make the balloons look like a joke. It's like showing up a NASCAR race riding a donkey. You'll get everyone's attention and make headlines but you won't actually win.

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So what is China really doing with this balloon thing anyway? (Original Post) Takket Feb 2023 OP
We don't know the truth yet. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #1
The Truth is Out There NoRethugFriends Feb 2023 #2
Yep. Sometimes life is like an X files episode. Irish_Dem Feb 2023 #3
You didn't want to be told but I will anyway jmowreader Feb 2023 #4
The most ridiculous news story in years... My God. WarGamer Feb 2023 #5
I can't believe I'm not seeing Balloon Boy jokes underpants Feb 2023 #9
hahahaha WarGamer Feb 2023 #11
It's possible they don't have as many spy satellites as we think. GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #6
Or the quality of their satellite-based optics is not so good dalton99a Feb 2023 #8
Low risk, low cost, low yield assets can often bring intelligence. Torchlight Feb 2023 #7
The antenna array on the gondola LunaSea Feb 2023 #10
I find it interesting sarisataka Feb 2023 #12
I thought they were just delivering some Trump ties Jarqui Feb 2023 #13
It's their new advanced spy satellite. fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author fightforfreedom Feb 2023 #15
What if it was a fentanyl bomb? pwb Feb 2023 #16
Err, maybe doing weather Disaffected Feb 2023 #17

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
4. You didn't want to be told but I will anyway
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:10 PM
Feb 2023

The lower an intelligence platform is to the ground, the better resolution you are going to get out of it. If the sensors on this balloon are any good, they'll give better coverage of, say, an Air Force base than a satellite will - because they're sitting 66,000 feet above the ground rather than 180 miles above it. The US has a very fine constellation of photoreconnaissance satellites, but we also fly U-2/TR-1 aircraft, Global Hawks and Predator drones because airbreathers are lower to the ground than satellites are.

GoCubsGo

(34,916 posts)
6. It's possible they don't have as many spy satellites as we think.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:20 PM
Feb 2023

With the pandemic and other issues, it's not out of the question that their older satellites went out of commission, and they have been unable to launch replacements. From what I have been hearing, China is on verge of economic collapse. Their economy is in terrible shape, thanks to a shrinking population, a burst real estate bubble, and due to foreign manufacturers moving back home, or to places like Vietnam and India. They're trying to stay afloat, and building new spy satellites probably low on the their list of things to spend capital on.

I doubt this is to make Biden look weak, as they have launched others elsewhere. There's one over South America right now. It's also far from the first one they've sent over here. Maybe once they retrieve the one they shot down, we might get an answer as to why they sent it here.

dalton99a

(94,161 posts)
8. Or the quality of their satellite-based optics is not so good
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:30 PM
Feb 2023

China is still behind Japan, the U.S. and Europe in advanced optics



Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
7. Low risk, low cost, low yield assets can often bring intelligence.
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:26 PM
Feb 2023

I'd guess that as risk/benefit analyses go, it's cheap but ineffective, though even pedestrian efforts sometimes being reward.

LunaSea

(2,934 posts)
10. The antenna array on the gondola
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:33 PM
Feb 2023

suggests signals collection. As another poster pointed out, the closer the collector is to the source, the stronger the signals. Lots cheaper than a satellite construction and launch.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
12. I find it interesting
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 05:41 PM
Feb 2023

That the Chinese balloon reaction is basically meh- so what. Even though it is a violation of US airspace.

But many of the same people lost their minds when the Russian plane flew around the US, allowed per the Open Skies Treaty. I believe it was called treason to allow those flights.

Response to Takket (Original post)

Disaffected

(6,409 posts)
17. Err, maybe doing weather
Sat Feb 4, 2023, 06:25 PM
Feb 2023

data gathering?? I've seen no compelling reason to think the things are simply anything other than drifting in the wind like, you know, a weather balloon.

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