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NewsCenter28

(1,837 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:22 PM Jan 2023

What was Durbin trying to achieve by slamming the President on MTP yesterday?

Manchin, I can understand. He's in a tough state and anything he can do to help himself get elected in WV is fine by me.

But Durbin is from a solid blue state. He is in no danger of losing his seat. A simple "the special counsel is investigaing this and I will have no further comment until the affair is closed" would have sufficed. He is also the #2 senate Democrat for heaven's sake.

I can understand our senators getting cold feet if Hur had recommended impeachment or something, but that's not where we are at right now in the slightest!

No Republican senator, planning to run for election anyway, would have gone on MTP from 2017-2020 and treated Trump in this fashion.

We need Democrats to line solidly and firmly up behind President Biden, to have his back, as Democracy, itself, is at stake in 2024.

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What was Durbin trying to achieve by slamming the President on MTP yesterday? (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Jan 2023 OP
Agree...it was really disgusting! PortTack Jan 2023 #1
Thanks for the reply NewsCenter28 Jan 2023 #2
No..no hyperbole..you're absolutely correct PortTack Jan 2023 #31
Yeah pissed me off he knows very well Biden didn't do anything wrong Walleye Jan 2023 #3
I have no idea - it makes no sense. I've always liked Durbin so this was Ocelot II Jan 2023 #4
i always liked him until i had second thoughts about him after he orleans Jan 2023 #32
Maybe he wants to be primarued Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #5
No one credible will ever primary Durbin former9thward Jan 2023 #16
then someone incredible has a chance Tetrachloride Jan 2023 #34
He is my Senator and he will hear from me. nevergiveup Jan 2023 #6
Same Here ProfessorGAC Jan 2023 #8
TY, too! Cha Jan 2023 #11
TY! Cha Jan 2023 #9
That is so disappointing PatSeg Jan 2023 #7
Did not watch, but suspect Durbin was representing the reality cachukis Jan 2023 #10
Of Course He Should Dismiss It, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2023 #14
Agreed that the cases are very different. Agreed that pundits cachukis Jan 2023 #15
No, I take your point. Frasier Balzov Jan 2023 #19
I Am In A More Than Usually Waspish Mood, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2023 #22
Went and found the interview. It was on fox. cachukis Jan 2023 #23
I found a transcript on a fox news page. Have not found cachukis Jan 2023 #25
Durbin knows he'll get invited back if he plays along. It's always Hassler Jan 2023 #12
I no longer watch the cable news networks anymore, it is a waste of my time with misleading JohnSJ Jan 2023 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Stuart G Jan 2023 #17
Myelomalacia ? Xoan Jan 2023 #18
At link below, the complete Durbin interview...Decide for yourself if Durbin was slamming Biden Stuart G Jan 2023 #20
the link has the date of jan 21, 2018. i don't think that's the one that aired this past sunday lol orleans Jan 2023 #33
Yes, I was wrong to post that. I made another mistake...I don't know what to say. Stuart G Jan 2023 #35
Listen to entire interview. at link above or below..See if Durbin "slams Biden" Stuart G Jan 2023 #21
This interview is from some time ago. cachukis Jan 2023 #24
Completely pointless, IMO... NT Patton French Jan 2023 #26
Not cool kacekwl Jan 2023 #27
Durbin has huge security clearances Polybius Jan 2023 #28
Oh lordie. Cancel culture canceling a Senate Leader now Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2023 #29
I watched MTP but no Durbin. Found a CNN interview, though. betsuni Jan 2023 #30
Sorry, I posted this...I was wrong, I didn't look at the date...MY MISTAKE...!!! Stuart G Jan 2023 #36

NewsCenter28

(1,837 posts)
2. Thanks for the reply
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:26 PM
Jan 2023

Sometimes, I think I get hyperbolic and panic, but if someone else agrees with me, glad I'm not hyperbolic and panicky in this case!

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
31. No..no hyperbole..you're absolutely correct
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 02:21 AM
Jan 2023

The espionage act considers willfulness and intent as to whether it was a criminal act. We all know who was willful and intent and who wasn’t. For gods sakes why didn’t Durban stick with the law??!!

Ocelot II

(130,537 posts)
4. I have no idea - it makes no sense. I've always liked Durbin so this was
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:27 PM
Jan 2023

very odd and disappointing.

orleans

(36,919 posts)
32. i always liked him until i had second thoughts about him after he
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 02:34 AM
Jan 2023

hopped on that anti al franken bandwagon. that pissed me off to no end

cachukis

(3,937 posts)
10. Did not watch, but suspect Durbin was representing the reality
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 08:50 PM
Jan 2023

of the moment.
If one of your own is exposed, the honor code demands you defend the code. I bet Durbin is confident that Biden is free from malfeasance, but has a responsibility to represent the party as above complicity in wrongdoing. He is expected to comment. Should he pooh, pooh what has become a political millstone or respond to what is obvious?
None of this would be discussed if it were not for the trump boxes of pandoraware.
If we respond like republicans, we become like republicans. I have a hard time sinking into that miasma.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
14. Of Course He Should Dismiss It, Sir
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:05 PM
Jan 2023

Any attempt to draw similarities between the situations should be explicitly rebuffed, the deliberate criminality of Trump highlighted, made front and center in any answer given by any Democrat to villager pundits eager to chum up a both-sides feeding frenzy among themselves. In fact, pundits ought to be denounced for even asking the question without making clear the differences themselves before the body of the answer is given. These people do seem to react better to kicks than kisses....

cachukis

(3,937 posts)
15. Agreed that the cases are very different. Agreed that pundits
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:16 PM
Jan 2023

are not good at managing delineation.
If Durbin did not define the differences, he was not a suitable respondent. Did not witness the interview. I should be quiet.

Frasier Balzov

(5,062 posts)
19. No, I take your point.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:51 PM
Jan 2023

If we want the goddamn Trump indictments we need to chide Joe for the sake of moral clarity.

I just wish the goddamn Trump indictments would hurry up.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
22. I Am In A More Than Usually Waspish Mood, Sir
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:24 PM
Jan 2023

There's to be said for the view you express. i disagree with it, but my ire was directed to the view, not at you.

cachukis

(3,937 posts)
23. Went and found the interview. It was on fox.
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:25 PM
Jan 2023

I stand by my inference. If we are to take the high road, then we must admit and learn from our mistakes. Durbin did explain the differences and did so by describing the protocols for handling classified documents.
It gives further justification to calling out trump when you can acknowledge your own team's fallibility and manage the gauntlet as well.
Durbin showed the fox audience a more admirable approach compared to the righteousness of his opponents.
Perhaps, most fox viewers will miss the point, but they are on the attack anyway.
And while I agree the punditry does a disservice to its audience, the public needs to hear from its officials.
It wants and needs to hear from Biden.
It never heard the truth from trump even when his administration responded.
Trump would come up with a distractor and the moment would pass.
This is a sticky wicket.
Politics vs. truth.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
13. I no longer watch the cable news networks anymore, it is a waste of my time with misleading
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 09:02 PM
Jan 2023

information without context, and “bothsiderisms”

It is the same garbage every-time, and we fall for it

Did the press ever apologize for pushing us to invade Iraq based on a lie? There were a few people from Knight Ridder who said loud and clear there were no WMDs, but most of the media ignored that, and pursed the lie. When Hart/Rudman issued the report from the Clinton Administration that AQ was a major threat to the country, and the bush administration disagreed, and said they would do their own report, which was never done, where was the press reporting here w the ball was dropped by the bush administration?

When 11 days before the election, Comey sent a letter to the republicans in Congress how they were looking to see if Weiner’s laptop contained any new information, not only did the press mischaracterize that by falsely saying “email investigation was reopened”, but they had every right wing pundit parading across their outlets propagating that lie.

What they did to Howard Dean by making him look “unhinged”, to giving the swift boat pukes ad free coverage against Kerry by portraying it as some legitimate story

The press stopped doing their job a long time ago after Reagan and the Iran Contra scandal, and have been following that path every since



Response to NewsCenter28 (Original post)

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
20. At link below, the complete Durbin interview...Decide for yourself if Durbin was slamming Biden
Mon Jan 23, 2023, 10:06 PM
Jan 2023

Last edited Tue Jan 24, 2023, 11:07 AM - Edit history (2)

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/full-durbin-interview-i-wish-the-president-would-help-us-1142028355785

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ERROR.....ERROR...MISTAKE...WRONG POST........???????????????????????????.....DO NOT READ...ERROR ...MISTAKE...

I watched a small part. (very small, not all. was it about the timing? Or length of time to get approved?) I don't know.

I don't know nothing.. ...I did not listen to it... ......I haven't got a clue, says Stu.


error..........errror......error.....mistake......mistake.....wrong post.....error......do not read.......NO, I HAVE NO CLUE, SAYS STU

i left it up, just to show the mistake????????????????????????? I don't know what to do???? ............says Stu...

orleans

(36,919 posts)
33. the link has the date of jan 21, 2018. i don't think that's the one that aired this past sunday lol
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 02:39 AM
Jan 2023

nt

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. Oh lordie. Cancel culture canceling a Senate Leader now
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:43 AM
Jan 2023

Hasn't this gone WAY to far? Last night the hallelujah chorus was trashing MSNBC!

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
30. I watched MTP but no Durbin. Found a CNN interview, though.
Tue Jan 24, 2023, 12:53 AM
Jan 2023

If you mean the CNN interview, I saw no slamming of the president.

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