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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 10:57 AM Dec 2022

A first look at the trains that will replace Amtrak's 50-year-old rail cars

Washintgon Post

Amtrak on Thursday unveiled details of the trains that will replace some of the carrier’s 50-year-old rail cars, starting in 2026.

The images offer a glimpse of the multi-powered Amtrak Airo trains being built in California by manufacturing company Siemens Mobility as part of Amtrak’s multibillion-dollar plan to upgrade its rolling stock over the next decade.

The rail cars will have panoramic windows, more comfortable seating with movable headrests, and cup and seatback tablet holders. The trains also will have a redesigned cafe car and come with individual power outlets and USB ports, onboard WiFi, and better lighting, officials said.

“Our new trains will transform the Amtrak experience with significant environmental benefits, a progressive design and world-class amenities,” Amtrak president Roger Harris said in a statement.





FYI: these will be conventional service rather than Acela.
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A first look at the trains that will replace Amtrak's 50-year-old rail cars (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2022 OP
NOICE! nt TigressDem Dec 2022 #1
I would love to travel on a train like that! Diamond_Dog Dec 2022 #2
Europe. Any part. vanlassie Dec 2022 #3
Man we need these on the West Coast! The Surfliner could definitely use some replacing! Initech Dec 2022 #4
agree....love the trip up the coast to Pismo Beach... bahboo Dec 2022 #9
I love taking the train to San Diego. Initech Dec 2022 #11
I LOVE to ride on trains! Greybnk48 Dec 2022 #5
I may be in the minority, but I find the train interiors to be soulless, brutal, and dismal. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #6
Show us a train interior that meets your design aesthetic. brooklynite Dec 2022 #7
While certainly not in perfect alignment with my taste--and not really meeting the standards of Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #20
Yes to the swivel seats! MagickMuffin Dec 2022 #23
That red is awful. Hurts my eyes. Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #27
This is a premium service tourist train... brooklynite Dec 2022 #21
In a developing country. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #24
no open seats to lie down WhiteTara Dec 2022 #8
Yeah. I'd like wood panelling, staterooms with curtains, beautiful travel companions also. erronis Dec 2022 #10
Airplane interiors?...trains are castles! Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #12
Sterile DET Dec 2022 #25
Sorry, not impressed garybeck Dec 2022 #13
I love riding by train! peggysue2 Dec 2022 #14
nice republianmushroom Dec 2022 #15
All well and good, but how about actual TRACK UPGRADES so we can use REAL modern engines Tommymac Dec 2022 #16
You can't "upgrade" tracks for HSR... brooklynite Dec 2022 #18
I still prefer the Chinese bullet trains and the Korean KTX line AZLD4Candidate Dec 2022 #17
Looking forward to my multigraincracker Dec 2022 #19
Couple of YouTube videos on the topic Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #22
Wow, we are making progress! DFW Dec 2022 #26
They look great! mcar Dec 2022 #28

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
9. agree....love the trip up the coast to Pismo Beach...
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:21 PM
Dec 2022

but the cars are definitely showing their age...

Initech

(108,783 posts)
11. I love taking the train to San Diego.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:29 PM
Dec 2022

Though apparently there's been some problems with the tracks in Oceanside that won't be fixed until next year, according to some friends of mine that live in the area.

Greybnk48

(10,724 posts)
5. I LOVE to ride on trains!
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 11:55 AM
Dec 2022

I sure hope we get service in my area before I croak, but I doubt it. We have to drive 100 miles to catch a train to anywhere.

That said, I'm happy to see this is happening! This is thanks to Joe Biden, and will be so beneficial to us and the environment!

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
6. I may be in the minority, but I find the train interiors to be soulless, brutal, and dismal.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 12:02 PM
Dec 2022

The design aesthetic is as synthetic as the materials that appear to have been employed.

Sterile, cold, and uninviting.

Major fail.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. Show us a train interior that meets your design aesthetic.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 12:06 PM
Dec 2022

I don't recall French/Italian/German trains having unique interiors.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
20. While certainly not in perfect alignment with my taste--and not really meeting the standards of
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 03:08 PM
Dec 2022

my design aesthetics--I think the Vistadome Coaches that are employed on the Pune-Mumbai Express in India offer a greater sense of openness that those produced by Siemens Mobility.

Good design is an art-form.

In my search I've yet to see a modern railcar interior design that I think is sublime.

But for a simple design, I think these would feel more experiential.








 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
27. That red is awful. Hurts my eyes.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 04:45 PM
Dec 2022

And the seat covers are obviously polyester. I can already feel that funky semi-greasy texture of it now. Blech.

Not a fan of the skylight windows, either. It looks nice, but it makes it more difficult on climate control systems in the summer. Plus, the glare of the sunlight bouncing around will be quite bad, even with window tinting.

I do like how the seats swivel and seem to be more padded. So bonus there.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
24. In a developing country.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 03:35 PM
Dec 2022

Nothing "fancy" here.

No exotic materials. Pretty utilitarian.

Again, not my idea of perfect design, but it creates more "openness" that the Siemens design.

I can guess which costs more.

erronis

(23,882 posts)
10. Yeah. I'd like wood panelling, staterooms with curtains, beautiful travel companions also.
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:27 PM
Dec 2022

But we probably won't see the Orient Express on this continent.

DET

(2,501 posts)
25. Sterile
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 03:44 PM
Dec 2022

That was my initial impression as well. It seems odd that they clearly tried to liven up the exterior but made the interior so dull and unwelcoming. JMHO.

garybeck

(10,085 posts)
13. Sorry, not impressed
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:35 PM
Dec 2022

they look just like the ones we have now, but a little cleaner and more modern. many of the "new" amenities they list, are already available on the old cars. USB ports.... been there for a while now.

what we need is to revamp the entire rail system. other countries have better, faster, more efficient trains, and they get used a lot more. trains are the most efficient means of mass transportation. we should be getting caught up with the other countries, not just making the cars a little nicer.

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
14. I love riding by train!
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:42 PM
Dec 2022

So much easier than bucking freeway, turnpike traffic and no city parking worries.

Yeah, I'd hop that baby in a heartbeat.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
16. All well and good, but how about actual TRACK UPGRADES so we can use REAL modern engines
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:45 PM
Dec 2022

Very High Speed bullet trains like the ones in use EVERYDAY in Europe and Japan.

EVERY Major City needs to be linked via track that can handle high speed passenger service. And every region needs to be equipped with passenger rated track too, down to the smallest towns - just like in Europe.

Until then, this is just putting lipstick on a pig.



 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
18. You can't "upgrade" tracks for HSR...
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:50 PM
Dec 2022

You have to acquire land and build entirely new ROW designed precisely for trains running at 200 mph.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
19. Looking forward to my
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 01:52 PM
Dec 2022

Governors plan for passenger service from AA to Traverse City, with a stop in my town.
I’ll be traveling both ways.

DFW

(60,189 posts)
26. Wow, we are making progress!
Fri Dec 16, 2022, 04:25 PM
Dec 2022

This looks almost as good as the trains introduced here in Europe 20 years ago!

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