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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Kinzinger tries to blame Dems for the mess that is the ReTHUG pRty
Fuck that - that is all. Clean up you own hog pen.
montanacowboy
(6,714 posts)WTF?????? Whoa Adam.....still a repuke at heart. Stop swilling your shit, STFU.
I turned it off. No need to listen to drivel.
SheltieLover
(80,490 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Not one of the 2 hero's of Jan 6! Say it ain't so. Or maybe just, told ya so.
Rebl2
(17,743 posts)not the hero we thought. Should of known.
Celerity
(54,413 posts)war or conflict
fuck that POS
malaise
(296,126 posts)oh now she and Gareth are repeating the BS.
Celerity
(54,413 posts)so we have an easier general
malaise
(296,126 posts)Even Nicole is backtracking now
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malaise
(296,126 posts)Kinzinger voted against the Voting Rights Act
Celerity
(54,413 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)She would be great.
It is the same with Cheney, too. I'm glad both are on the Committee, and respect that. But they are both conservative republicans that I do not share any other common ground with.
malaise
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Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)Celerity
(54,413 posts)ck4829
(37,765 posts)The widespread assumption that only Democrats have any agency or causal influence over American politics.
By attacking the Democrats for not blocking a tax bill that they unanimously opposed, you revealed yourself to be a firm believer in Murc's Law.
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Celerity
(54,413 posts)
Murcs law, for the uninitiated, is the widespread assumption that only Democrats have any agency or causal influence over American politics. I can now present the definitive example of the genre:

Yes, not only are Democrats responsible for the passage of a law zero Democrats voted for a few more BLISTERING speeches and Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan would have totally realized that upper-class tax cuts are wrong! they secretly wanted it to pass. And we know this because if Democrats are talking about the Mueller investigation they by definition cannot be critiquing Republican domestic policy. For example, heres Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, talking about the Mueller investigation rather than critiquing Republican domestic policy:
Todays passage of the partisan tax bill officially cements the Republican party as the party of the wealthy and the party of big corporations against the middle-class and the working people of this country. Why? President Trump, his rich fans, cabinet members and donors, and the biggest corporations make out like bandits, while the middle class gets crumbs and tax hikes. Corporations get permanent tax breaks; individual tax breaks expire.
By 2027, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, 83 percent of the middle class almost 145 million American families will either get a tax increase, or see a tax change of less than $100. Meanwhile, according to the Tax Policy Center, the top 1 percent of earners reap 83 percent of the benefits. Let me say that again, middle class: 83 percent get an increase of taxes, or a decrease of less than $100. Top 1 percent: 83 percent of the benefits.
So its no surprise when President Trump admitted this morning that the corporate rate was the biggest factor in their plan. Middle- class America is asking. Theyre scratching their heads. Why does the top get far more than I do? Why do I get a tax increase, when so many of them get a huge decrease?
This bill doesnt sit well with the American people right now, and it will not sit well with the American people next year. So when middle-class families see their taxes go up, theyll know Republicans are to blame. When middle-class families see their health premiums rise, theyll know Republicans are to blame. And when middle-class families see billions more in stock buybacks and dividends going to wealthy shareholders instead of increased wages or new jobs, theyll know Republicans are to blame.
So while Republicans will own every nook and cranny of this awful tax bill, Democrats are going to fight like hell to stop Speaker Ryan and the Freedom Caucus from ending Medicare and cutting Medicaid.
Will Dems ever stop talking about Russia? Wait it gets even better:

Fair why, to find a Democrat running on tax increases you would have to travel deep into the obscure mists of history to find Hillary Clintons 2016 presidential campaign, the most neoliberal campaign in the history of neoliberalism.
Look, I can understand that its pretty embarrassing at this late date to have spent the campaign that gave us President Trump literally recycling inane bullshit generated by Steve Bannon. Given the amount of damage Trump, Ryan and McConnell are doing and the sheer cruelty of the contemporary Republican Party, it looks really bad to have said that you can imagine myself voting for Hillary Clintonbut only if David Brock, her nemesis turned promoter, were holding a gun to my head. But at this point its really better to admit that you were wrong than to be made to look considerably more ridiculous.
Link to tweet
W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)
betsuni
(29,079 posts)from (fill in the bad thing)?" It has a name! Part of the Both Sides belief that if Democrats really wanted to stop the bad Republican things they could, they just don't want to. Don't "fight for" or "stand up to."
Just saw an ad urging President Biden not to run again because he's "status quo."
Right, because the Biden administration is just the same as a Republican one? Status quo is only used to bash Democrats, so what exactly the hell does it mean?
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)Caliman73
(11,767 posts)I would choose to eat the ass out of a dead rhinoceros rather than eating shit.
budkin
(6,849 posts)That's all.
malaise
(296,126 posts)😀
ProfessorGAC
(76,710 posts)He came in on the stupid tea party wave, but he fell out with that crowd in very short order.
This was a purple district when he first got in, and benefitted from huge money spent by RNC to unseat Deb Halvorson. He was a hard right fiscal conservative, like a libertarian, and was big on defense spending, thinking low taxes & a big military were the answer to everything. He beat Manzullo in the primary after a district redraw. He moderated his rhetoric, & his actions, for general election.
Recognizing the nature of the redrawn 16th, he distanced himself from idiots like Jordan, Cantor, & others. Cantor took credit for his 2012 win & expected fealty. He told them to get lost. They hated him after that.
The Freedom Caucus primaried him in 2014, 2016, & 2020. He trounced all of the challengers, even after outside money in '16 had him outspent nearly 2:1. He was greatly outspent in '14 too, with Club For Growth targeting him for being insufficiently anti-Obama
He was not on good terms with them, as far back as 2012.
He came in on the initial nutjob wave but was never an active part of the crazies.
I disagree with him politically, in nearly every way, but he's not, and never was one of "them".
I've spoken to him several times. He's actually a decent, pleasant guy. He's just wrong about everything politically.
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malaise
(296,126 posts)Should have checked
budkin
(6,849 posts)I should have checked as well before posting
ProfessorGAC
(76,710 posts)He came in during the teabag period. So, a natural assumption.
And, as he lives about 9 miles from our house, I know more detail than most here.
Besides, we agree on his being wrong about nearly everything, especially fiscal policy.
HAB911
(10,440 posts)two peas in a pod

spanone
(141,630 posts)Greybnk48
(10,725 posts)which is technically true, they used that name. But it is not ideologically true by any stretch.
He pissed me off several times, and I would NEVER vote for him for office. But I'm still grateful for his help.