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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 04:20 PM Dec 2022

Intel analyst tried to prevent 1/6: "I found a map of all the exits & entrances to capitol building"

Exclusive: An intel analyst tried to prevent the Jan. 6 attack — but DHS failed to act

"I feel like people are actually going to try and hurt politicians. Jan 6 is gonna be crazy.”

On Dec. 20, 2020, a 21-year-old intelligence analyst went online to search for local Washington, D.C., fishing holes and stumbled upon the blueprint of a plot to storm the Capitol and execute members of Congress and law enforcement officers to prevent the certification of electoral votes to make Joe Biden the next U.S. president.

The domestic terrorism analyst with the Department of Homeland Security saw a link to a website where people “actively at that moment were discussing the commission of acts of terroristic violence and the violent overthrow the government of the United States,” according to the analyst’s written account later provided to investigators.

There, the analyst “witnessed upwards of 500 pages worth of potential threats to national security,” including people urging others — and discussing how — to smuggle illegal weapons into the nation’s capital and avoid detection by law enforcement. The DHS intelligence analyst also saw “discussion references of overthrowing the US Government by force/sparking a second civil war, and veiled credible threats of violence toward other US persons who were perceived enemies, specifically Members of Congress and other federal employees.”

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A message from Jan. 1, 2021, states: “Also I found a map of all the exits and entrances to the capitol building. I feel like people are actually going to try and hurt politicians. Jan 6 is gonna be crazy.”

Another from Jan. 3, 2021, said, “I mean people are talking about storming Congress, bringing guns, willing to die for the cause, hanging politicians with ropes but still not meeting threshold lol.”



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Intel analyst tried to prevent 1/6: "I found a map of all the exits & entrances to capitol building" (Original Post) kpete Dec 2022 OP
Intelligence failure yankee87 Dec 2022 #1
This has the same RING to it as the pre-9/11 intel that Condalese Rice gave BushII NotHardly Dec 2022 #7
Bill Clinton had a standing order to wnylib Dec 2022 #8
And we know DHS was (and is) riddled with Trump loyalists. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #11
Were any Oath Keepers at the DHS in a position to squelch this info? Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #13
100% yankee87 Dec 2022 #28
exactly what i was thinking ShepKat Dec 2022 #10
Condi Rice never informed Shrub because Dick Cheney told her not to. Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #27
That's why some of us called her Contradicta. calimary Dec 2022 #33
Coleen Rowley and Sept 11 suegeo Dec 2022 #29
The intelligence was there Warpy Dec 2022 #12
Or, Obstruction. Whatever happened to "See something, Say something!" ??? Model35mech Dec 2022 #23
That's outrageous. grumpyduck Dec 2022 #2
Remember who was in charge then blogslug Dec 2022 #3
Ahhhhh. Yeah that was the MO. TigressDem Dec 2022 #32
so much for the DHS republianmushroom Dec 2022 #4
Was it tfg's loyalists within DHS KS Toronado Dec 2022 #5
I think now. Snackshack Dec 2022 #6
Still doesn't matter to the Deplorable base. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2022 #9
I do hope all of this information was archived somewhere and not... thenelm1 Dec 2022 #14
Seems to me that if the analyst came acoss the site Marthe48 Dec 2022 #15
A lot was on a public site IbogaProject Dec 2022 #16
WHO did he send it to? TigressDem Dec 2022 #17
That scenario is IMHO, at a bare mimim plausible, Model35mech Dec 2022 #24
Yeah, unfortunately. TigressDem Dec 2022 #31
This info is enraging! LittleGirl Dec 2022 #18
Idle chit-chat. nt Hotler Dec 2022 #19
Kick! burrowowl Dec 2022 #20
Remind me again, why do we have a "Dept. of Homeland Security"? FakeNoose Dec 2022 #21
As I recall, the argument at the time was to enhance coordination Model35mech Dec 2022 #25
Was this Reilly under a gag order all this time? House of Roberts Dec 2022 #22
I think Jan 6th Committee alluded to information... TigressDem Dec 2022 #34
Wasn't the Head BOZO at DHS was told to stand down just like the Army and Police were? Ford_Prefect Dec 2022 #26
The Biden Administration needs to be all over this like white on rice, cats on mice. BComplex Dec 2022 #30
This is what happens when a fascist movement gets to decide who runs government. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2022 #35

yankee87

(2,825 posts)
1. Intelligence failure
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 04:24 PM
Dec 2022

One of two things happened, intelligence didn’t believe the analyst or the people who agreed with the overthrow

 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
7. This has the same RING to it as the pre-9/11 intel that Condalese Rice gave BushII
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 06:18 PM
Dec 2022

that was equally ignored. So, my question is, with all this intelligence, who and how many f*ckers in government were in on both 9/11 and 1/6? Seems like plenty and in positions of power and long careers. Maybe your annual checking for spies is not working or maybe they are just incredibly incompetent.

wnylib

(26,014 posts)
8. Bill Clinton had a standing order to
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 06:36 PM
Dec 2022

be notified of any Intel terrorist threats. His policy was to then follow through by shaking down all other Intel agencies for any and all relevant info, take it seriously, and act on it immediately.

Bush II did not want to be bothered.

Trump would have squelched any reports about threats on J6 since he was the one who was inciting it.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
11. And we know DHS was (and is) riddled with Trump loyalists.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 06:41 PM
Dec 2022

"Trump would have squelched any reports about threats on J6 since he was the one who was inciting it."

And he had plenty of help at the DHS to make sure it stayed squelched!

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
13. Were any Oath Keepers at the DHS in a position to squelch this info?
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:01 PM
Dec 2022

They should all be investigated if they are still employed.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
27. Condi Rice never informed Shrub because Dick Cheney told her not to.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 12:35 PM
Dec 2022

AFAIK she was in on the deal.

suegeo

(3,137 posts)
29. Coleen Rowley and Sept 11
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 02:22 PM
Dec 2022
but jokes were actually made that the key FBI HQ personnel had to be spies or moles like Robert Hanssen who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis's effort.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleen_Rowley]

After the September 11 attacks in 2001, Rowley wrote a paper for FBI Director Robert Mueller documenting how FBI HQ personnel in Washington, D.C., had mishandled and failed to take action on information provided by the Minneapolis, Minnesota, Field Office regarding its investigation of suspected terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui. Moussaoui had been suspected of being involved in preparations for a suicide-hijacking similar to the December 1994 "Eiffel Tower" hijacking of Air France 8969. Failures identified by Rowley may have left the U.S. vulnerable to the September 11, 2001, attacks. Rowley was one of many agents frustrated by the events that led up to the attacks, writing:

During the early aftermath of September 11th, when I happened to be recounting the pre–September 11th events concerning the Moussaoui investigation to other FBI personnel in other divisions or in FBIHQ, almost everyone's first question was "Why?—Why would an FBI agent(s) deliberately sabotage a case?" (I know I shouldn't be flippant about this, but jokes were actually made that the key FBI HQ personnel had to be spies or moles like Robert Hanssen who were actually working for Osama Bin Laden to have so undercut Minneapolis's effort.)[5][6][7]


John Ashcroft did not fly commercial during the summer of 2001. BECAUSE HE KNEW SOMETHING BAD WAS BEING PLANNED. and that it involved airliners.

The GOP only pretends to care about national security. In fact, they suck at it or participate in coups.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
12. The intelligence was there
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 06:47 PM
Dec 2022

but wasn't the DHS headed by a toady named Chad? That's where the failure occurred. It was a MANAGEMENT failure.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
23. Or, Obstruction. Whatever happened to "See something, Say something!" ???
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 12:22 PM
Dec 2022

I think that logic still stands.

A cornerstone of my Army NCO training so many years ago was "When in a position of responsibility, ACT RESPONSIBLY"

So although I could be way off base, and I am biased to think the "analyst" actually did report it.

Whether that report was stifled/obstructed by a srewed up Oath Keeper who'd, in lite of recent reports, infiltrated the DHS is a matter for some agency to figure out.

I can only scratch my head and be suspicious, because I believe about 99 percent of the military intelligence folks I served with, and went to church with, and even went fishing with a few times, would have made an effort to push that sort of knowledge to proper authority.

blogslug

(39,167 posts)
3. Remember who was in charge then
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 04:46 PM
Dec 2022
Acting DHS secretary Chad Wolf.

After Kirstjen Nielsen left, TFG refused to appoint Chris Krebs to the job and put in the former Border Patrol Commissioner, Kevin McAleenan. That guy left 271 days later. Then TFG appointed Wolf but Chad's appointment was ruled unlawful and this unlawful man was in charge of DHS on January 6, 2021.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
32. Ahhhhh. Yeah that was the MO.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:13 PM
Dec 2022

Fire anyone who would not follow party line even if it was illegal to do so.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
5. Was it tfg's loyalists within DHS
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 05:56 PM
Dec 2022

who were telling people raising red flags that there was nothing to be concerned about.

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
6. I think now.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 06:08 PM
Dec 2022

It is has been solidly established that there was a very real coup d’ėtat attempted on Jan 6th and had certain politicians been caught they would have been harmed.

It has also been very well established that numerous GOP reps were involved and helped to coordinate this attack and…

GUESS WHAT…. one of the most virulent reps to claim Jan 6th was a “peaceful” gathering of protestors and that the election in 2020 was stolen…instead of being charged with a crime and expelled from congress in January will be chairman of the Judicial committee…if you thought Benghazi was a 💩 show just wait till Jordan gets the gavel. Ffs.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
9. Still doesn't matter to the Deplorable base.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 06:39 PM
Dec 2022

No amount of facts will EVER dissuade them that the SlobFather wasn’t anointed by GAWD.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
14. I do hope all of this information was archived somewhere and not...
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:10 PM
Dec 2022

scrubbed by any of the TFG toadies embedded within these agencies.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
15. Seems to me that if the analyst came acoss the site
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:24 PM
Dec 2022

and there were around 500 pages of threats, that would be a great place to track down some of the criminals still at large. Maybe they posted photos with their aliases and threats.

I'm beginning to think that our national security isn't so hot. I don't know how to fix it. I had an opportunity today to read comments from people who aren't on DU, and never will be. They have the same chance to get a job protecting our country as I do. On any level, they are a risk to the country. I'm not. I would work to change policy, but I would not try to overthrow the government, and I know the gd difference.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
16. A lot was on a public site
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:28 PM
Dec 2022

I followed "TheDonald.win" for a while b4 1/06/21 you could see the broad risks. I was just watching the sentiment, I didn't see the actual plot but it was easy to see the risk.

The most disturbing thing I saw bandied about was a phrase "chopper rides" referring to the Pinochet regime style of dropping activists out of helicopters to their deaths.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
17. WHO did he send it to?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 11:24 AM
Dec 2022

With the people in charge being corrupt, who could have actually stopped this?

I guess, once DHS no response, escalate up the chain of command and CC Pelosi and major News Outlets?

Because someone above him would have done a scrub if he kept at it.

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
24. That scenario is IMHO, at a bare mimim plausible,
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 12:25 PM
Dec 2022

Sort of makes me sick at heart to think the game of political opposition sunk into that abyss.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
31. Yeah, unfortunately.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:11 PM
Dec 2022

Been so shocked since tRUMP got away with all this crap and the behavior of those wishing to become the Supreme Oligarchy and in deep fear of losing this country, that it's been hard to see the one bright light.

We have a LOT of TOUGH DEMs still standing in the breech giving us a way to fully take our country back. Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Warnock, Abrahms and every one who went out and gave their time to vote and call and knock.

At this our greatest time of need, We The People and our elected DEMs have fought back, hard, and with facts and courage.

And we have made some strange allies across the isle. Liz Cheney is in no way perfect, but she stood up to her party and flipped them off. Because they were going down the wrong path by anyone's definition - except White Supremacists. OBV.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
18. This info is enraging!
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 11:35 AM
Dec 2022

Why the F* isn’t 45 in jail?
Who in DHS knew this and is being protected?
Why are these criminal congressmen and women still holding office?

I’m sick of waiting.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
21. Remind me again, why do we have a "Dept. of Homeland Security"?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 11:46 AM
Dec 2022

What has this Bush-initiated bureaucracy done to protect our country in the last 20 years?

 

Model35mech

(2,047 posts)
25. As I recall, the argument at the time was to enhance coordination
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 12:32 PM
Dec 2022

Of course, that begs what was being coordinated.

If you drop into the dark recesses of Dick Cheney's world...

why couldn't coordination mean creation of mechanisms to systematically coordinatre filteration and squelching of information bubbling to the top?

House of Roberts

(6,525 posts)
22. Was this Reilly under a gag order all this time?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 12:03 PM
Dec 2022

Why has this taken so long to become public?

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
34. I think Jan 6th Committee alluded to information...
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 04:16 PM
Dec 2022

But since people who speak out against the MAGA start getting stalkers with guns... they might have been protecting him while gathering the rest of the evidence to back it up.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
26. Wasn't the Head BOZO at DHS was told to stand down just like the Army and Police were?
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 12:33 PM
Dec 2022

They certainly acted that way.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
30. The Biden Administration needs to be all over this like white on rice, cats on mice.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 03:37 PM
Dec 2022

This so pisses me off!!!

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
35. This is what happens when a fascist movement gets to decide who runs government.
Wed Dec 14, 2022, 05:49 PM
Dec 2022

A corrupt sociopath should not be able to purge departments and install loyalists.

Democracy dodged most of the bullets so far; that doesn't mean democracy will survive. There must be consequences beyond the foot soldiers.

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