Is anyone else here experiencing a vague but nagging impression of incoherence?

[Towlie]

Trump announces 2024 run for president

Former President Trump ... on Tuesday announced his entry into the 2024 race for the White House.

Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth Social post

Former President Donald Trump called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power Saturday in a continuation of his election denialism and pushing of fringe conspiracy theories.

U.S. Presidential Oath of Office

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

[Sneederbunk]

1. He crossed his fingers when he took the oath.

[CrispyQ]

2. Incoherence mixed with desperation & a side of stupidity. -nt

[Walleye]

3. If he wants he can have a redo of the election, in about two years

[tanyev]

4. The only constitution Trump would approve of is a two sentence declaration:

Be it hereby declared that Donald J. Trump is the bestest president the United States of America has ever had and will ever have. So there!

[Uncle Joe]

5. "Vague?"

Thanks for the thread Towlie

[agingdem]

6. understand what just happened...

Trump/Kanye/Nick Fuentes/Nazis/antisemitism...gone...Trump's newest deranged outrage..bye bye constitution..and the talking heads are off and blathering...

[AnotherMother4Peace]

8. "the talking heads are off and blathering". The Con loves the attention AND Ginni "true

believer" Thomas (and her ilk) are listening and believing.

[markodochartaigh]

22. And ABC is calling Republicans "centrist" who

are refusing to denounce Trump's disregard for the Constitution.


"Joyce, the chair of the Republican Governance Group, a centrist group in the House, was asked by ABC "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos to respond to Trump's post on Saturday on his Truth Social platform. The former president wrongly asserted that the "massive fraud" -- which did not occur -- "allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution."

Joyce initially declined to respond, saying he didn't know what Trump said on social media and that the public wasn't "interested in looking backwards." But Stephanopoulos pressed further, and Joyce ultimately said that Trump's comment should be taken "in context" but that it wouldn't prevent him from supporting Trump if he ends up winning the nomination. "

[onecaliberal]

7. I've said this over and over.

It’s time to challenge his candidacy. You can’t run to lead a constitutional government when calling for its overthrow.

[jaxexpat]

20. Franklin wanted to include that, but Madison said it wasn't necessary.

Jefferson was asleep at his desk and Adams didn't think the country would last long enough for that to ever be a problem. Franklin was old, tired and said, "fuck it, you punks do what you want, I've got a sweet lady waiting in the anteroom, learn thy priorities guys, tata".

[dalton99a]

9. He will preserve and protect the best constitution, and the best constitution is written by Trump

and updated often by Trump

"Article 1. All power is vested in President Donald Trump."

[agingdem]

10. constitutional scholars say our Constitution

is a living thing, and Trump intends to kill it..just saying...

[plimsoll]

16. I'm not sure the Federalist Society says it's a living document.

That whole originalist doctrine is predicated on using the "original" intent of the founders. But it's funny how the founders seem to believe the same things as the GOP, even when the GOP reverse their policies because it costs them votes.

[Mr.Bill]

21. It's also funny that the things they like most

about the constitution are the amendments, not so much the original document.

[twodogsbarking]

11. You have just crossed over into The Trump Zone.

[sinkingfeeling]

12. What he did was his best ability. So, why would anyone support him again?

[Lonestarblue]

13. I don't believe it truly matters what Trump says anymore other than as a means of putting

elected Republicans on notice that they need to either speak up for democracy or let their silence communicate agreement with and subservience to Trump. They’re mostly silent about his outrageous statements, and the media needs to put then on the record. Do they stand for overturning the Constitution, or do they stand for democracy? Of course, the media will do no such thing.

[LudwigPastorius]

14. You can't expect consistency from a waterhead like Trump.

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Reality changes from minute to minute for him.

He might wake up tomorrow and think that he is Napoleon Bonaparte, or that the Earth is made of ground beef.

[Harker]

15. When he heard, "... execute the Office of President..."

he misunderstood.

[ancianita]

17. I perceive the incoherence as "out there." I plan to know its agents, and not to experience it.

[allegorical oracle]

18. It's that pesky POTUS term limit thingy that he doesn't like 'cuz he loses elections. n/t

[DavidDvorkin]

19. I can't quite articulate it.

[NullTuples]

23. Wealthy (even if its mostly debt) guys like Trump & Musk say whatever they need in the moment.

As they know they'll never actually be called on it with any real consequences.

[Red Mountain]

24. Marriage vows.....

oaths of office......nope, completely in character for Trump.

Nothing he promises means anything once it becomes inconvenient.

[txwhitedove]

25. Last 7ish years we have been trapped on a nauseating surreal roller coaster

loop-de-loop zoomie arcade ride through someone else's nightmare.

[canetoad]

26. He's only parotting

Steve Bannon's wacky 'burn it all down' philosophy.