Paul Pelosi is still in Intensive Care

[malaise]

Fuck the fucking Slobfather and his complicit ReTHUG goons.

[niyad]

1. May all involved receive everything they deserve.

[irisblue]

10. So may it be

[wnylib]

19. Ditto

[SheltieLover]

23. Times 10,000!

[BonnieJW]

26. As well as

The MFs who made fun of this man. The silence, the ridicule from the right...

I think I've lived too long

[Baitball Blogger]

2. He's an 82 year old man. I have a terrible feeling that they're

not telling us the whole truth.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. He's a strong 82 year old man, but the doctors are not taking chances

He held his attacker's hammer at bay until the police told them to drop it and only he dropped it.

The assassin is half his age.

If a 21 year old received a hammer blow that fractured their skull, you bet they'd keep them in hospital and probably intensive care.

All the same, the ICU angle is a bit worrisome. But it was five hours of skull surgery.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. Do you have a link for that?

Because, damn! The police should not have said to drop the hammer unless they had a clear shot of the perp, and ready to fire if he didn't listen.

That policy needs to be reviewed.

[malaise]

8. I also heard that more than once

Willlook for a link

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Links and my thoughts

https://heavy.com/news/david-depape/

Scott said in a later news conference that when officers arrived and knocked on the door of the Pelosi home, the door was opened “by someone inside.” Officers observed Pelosi and Depape inside the entryway of the home. The officers remained outside of the home’s threshold. They observed both men, each “with one hand on a single hammer.” Officers gave commands to both men to drop the hammer. Depape pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and “violently attacked him with the hammer,” Scott said. Pelosi was struck at least one time. Officers entered and tackled the suspect and took him into custody. He said that Depape “forced entry” through a rear door of the Pelosi home.

It is not mentioned in the PBS article and I didn't see it in the video https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-police-officials-hold-news-briefing-on-attack-of-house-speaker-nancy-pelosis-husband

“Our officers observed Mr. Pelosi and the suspect both holding a hammer,” Scott said. “The suspect pulled the hammer away from Mr. Pelosi and violently assaulted him with it. Our officers immediately tackled the suspect, disarmed him, took him into custody, requested emergency backup and rendered medical aid.”

Perhaps they never said anything. But it would be a natural thing to say even as they are advancing toward the two. I'm dubious about the wisdom of not saying it.

[NH Ethylene]

20. So the cops were afraid to enter?

They could have rushed in and grabbed the guy and Pelosi would not have been hurt! It was just a hammer, ffs.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. No, I read it as the opposite. They did rush in, but the assassin landed a blow in a fraction of a

A fraction of a second is all it takes.

[manicdem]

32. Reaction time

Difficult job for the police since they don't know who's who
or what's going on. And a hammer can be swung faster than a person's reaction time.

[NH Ethylene]

35. Good points. n/t

[wnylib]

24. I am not seeking to excuse the police,

but even with guns focused on the intruder, it takes only a split second for the one who still holds onto the hammer to strike someone with it. Not enough time to prevent the hammer blow from happening.

Plus, there is the possibility of a bullet hitting Pelosi.

If I were to question police actions on the scene, I would ask if an officer positioned himself next to or behind Pelosi to drag him out of harm's way when the command to let go of the hammer was given. If so, then what went wrong? If not, why not?

But that would mean that the cops could have known that DePape would make that move in the presence of police.

[malaise]

6. Speaker Pelosi made me more worried when

she used life-threatening injuries in her letter.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. No question that Pelosi benefited from the "golden hour"

The police where there when it happened and paramedics were on their way.

[TNNurse]

16. Breaking someone's skull is always life threatening.

[lark]

11. As a victim of head trauma myself, I have been very worried about this.

I had 2 falls within 6 weeks and both resulted in head traumas. I nearly died from my discs exploding into my spinal cord, but thankfully this was fixed. I was 68 at the time and it took me over a year to get over the pain in my head every time I went outside and for my brain to feel anywhere near normal. My injury wasn't nearly as bad as his and he's much older. I think this could a lot worse than they are letting on. I feel so sorry for him and his entire family - what an awful thing to be nearly killed by a hate filled, deranged, MAGAT. The intentionality must make this hundreds of times worse for them.

[murielm99]

14. I understand what you are saying.

I fell at home and had a brain bleed. I was in the hospital for six days for observation. It was painful and I still have some pain in my head. The fall was in August. Later, I went to get a haircut and missed the chair. I fell to the floor. This was only a few weeks later.

I am 74. For the time being, my husband drives me everywhere.

I hope you are well and healed these days.

[lark]

17. Oh, so sorry for your fall and all the aftereffects.

My falls were in 1/2019 & 2/19 , had the discectomy and neck fusion 7/19 and lots of physical therapy during the next few years, so have now had sufficient time to heal. Finally, I can be outside without sunglasses and not get a horrible headache or feel dizzy. Your accident was recent, I wasn't driving at that point either. Time is a wonderful thing for healing brains and broken nerves - although it is depressing going through it. Sunglasses were my constant friend for 3 years. Hopefully over time, you will regain function. There were times I despaired, but here I am 3 years later driving around safely, even on the busy freeways.

Good luck with your healing process.

[NH Ethylene]

36. I worry too, because of his age.

A major injury at that age sometimes seems to trigger a downhill cascade.

[AllaN01Bear]

3. when are we going to arrest the orange pumpkin.

[Treefrog]

34. Ha.

He has not even been indicted yet.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Yes that is a concern

I only speak layman's medical, but with head injury in an octogenarian I would think the IC might be related to medically induced coma to keep the blood pressure steady and down to give time for the surgery to heal? Blood clots being the most worrisome possible development, yet circulation needed to preserve brain pathways?

[dembotoz]

13. after what he went thru i would be shocked if he wasn't in icu

lets take our time and make sure he is ok before transfer

[AngryOldDem]

15. We can't know his long-term prognosis from this...

His age has me worried.

And all the Big Lie Republicans who are expressing shock and sorrow need to fuck right off.

We all knew this was inevitable.

[Treefrog]

18. They can control access to him much easier

in ICU.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. My sentiments exactly

[marble falls]

25. The fact he's once again giving himself deniability when it's his rhetoric that authors this ...

...sort of outrage and encourages it, puts the lie to his "expression of sympathy", all the while spewing up further and newer acts of violence.

[OMGWTF]

27. Meanwhile, Shitler Jr is making fun of the attack

by posting a pair of (his?) tighty whities with a hammer saying it was a Paul Pelosi Halloween costume. Deplorable is too kind of a word to describe this jerkhole.

[Warpy]

28. This is pretty standard for neurosurgery

People are kept in induced coma until the swelling goes down. Consciousness, with increased demand on the brain for even the autonomic systems increases the swelling The coma preserves tissue and function.

Depending on where the blow was, and if the goon was right handed, he might have speech problems. Or he might have weakness in an arm or leg.

He not only survived the attack, he wrestled with the goon to get the hammer away from him. This speaks well for his eventual recovery.

Paul Pelosi is one tough old bird. My money's on him.

[onetexan]

29. was gonna say - he just had brain surgery, needs quite a bit of recovery time

[Warpy]

30. Maybe, maybe not

Medically induced coma can go on for hours to over a week.

I took care of a lady years ago, victim of DV who was missing half her skull after a hammer attack. She was walking and talking. The brain is a remarkable organ and neurolofy was where I saw the "miracles."

[malaise]

31. Hope so

[Blue Owl]

33. Get well soon Paul

And may the MAGAts, FF45, Coke Jr., and the wretched lot burn in hell for this violent attack...

[Meowmee]

37. 🙏🏻

Hope he will recover well in time 💕

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. Even with full physical recovery, he'll have that trauma the rest of his life.