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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 05:46 AM Oct 2022

Please don't mind me... Just a list of Elon Musk's broken promises and lies....



2014

- In this year, Elon Musk "demonstrated" a robotic maintenance-station that swaps your Tesla's empty battery for a fresh battery in 90 seconds.
(Reality: In 2021, a car-mechanic does it, not a robot. And it takes 30 minutes.)



2016

- In this year, we will have self-driving robo-taxis, and they will be safer than driving in-person.

- This was the year in which Elon Musk presented, by his own admission, fake solar roof-tiles from his company SolarCity.


2017

- In this year, we will have self-driving Teslas. You can call your Tesla to come to you via an App. And when you are inside it will automatically drive you from anywhere to anywhere in the US.
(Reality in 2022: A self-driving Tesla cannot turn left on a street-crossing.)



2018

- In 2018, Musk promised to fix the water-system of Flint, Michigan, all by himself.

- In this year, Musk will send a rocket to Mars.


2019

- In this year, your Tesla will be able to self-drive on autopilot about 90% the distance of a long-distance travel.
(Reality: Musk has been promising self-driving cars "the next year" for every year since 2014.)

- The year in which the first self-driving Tesla-trucks will be used to haul goods.
(Reality: Not happening)



2020

- In this year, there will be a 10km test on a curvy test-track for the Hyperloop (vacuum tunnel train).
(Reality: The one and only test-track is still just a few hundred meters long and straight as an arrow, and a maintenance-nightmare.)

- In this year, Elon Musk will build floating spaceports.



2022

- In 2022, Elon Musk presented a video-demonstration of his humanoid robot walking and picking up packages. All of the videos are visibly spliced together from multiple different test-runs. (objects and people appearing and disappearing, desks being a few inch from where they were seconds before, position-markers appearing on the ground...)

- In this year, Elon Musk will send several rockets to Mars, delivering building-blocks for a permanent Mars-base.
(Reality in 2022: NASA is planning to deliver the first parts for a permanent Moon-base to the Moon by 2027. NASA and their commercial partners are currently prototyping modules and components of this Moon-base. What is SpaceX prototyping in terms of a Mars-base? Nothing. If they were, they would have shown it.)

- By the end of 2022, Elon Musk will conduct the first full-scale test of the Hyperloop (vacuum tunnel train).
(Reality: Not happening. Quote from 2015: "It's not that complicated!!!&quot

- By the end of 2022, Eon Musk's company Neuralink will start experiments for implanting microchips into a human brain, enabling telepathy-like communication.
(Reality: Nobody knows. The company is very secretive and ex-employees allege that management uses intimidation and fear to deal with employee-issues. According to neuroscientists, there is nothing revolutionary about Neuralink's technology.)



2024

- In this year, Elon Musk will send austronauts to Mars to build the permanent Mars-base.
(Elon Musk later modified his first pitch from 2016 how luxurious life on Mars would be, saying in 2022 that it would be cramped, consist of hard labour, and you could die.)



2027

- In this year, you will be able to buy your own humanoid robot for household work.



2028

- In 2018, a representative of Elon Musk promised that by 2028, Elon Musk will replace slow long-distance air-travel in airplanes with fast sub-orbital space-flights in rockets.
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Please don't mind me... Just a list of Elon Musk's broken promises and lies.... (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2022 OP
World peace is quite possible in two weeks and climate change readily reversible in two years dalton99a Oct 2022 #1
He is even crazier than I thought 😹 Meowmee Oct 2022 #2
That's because "the genius" is a clueless hack who lives in Fantasyland. GoCubsGo Oct 2022 #3
And yet, a clueless hack in Fantasyland 'just like Trump' couldn't have built Space X and Starlink. ancianita Oct 2022 #12
Then there was the *dancing robot "..... who was just a guy in a robot suit. nt Carlitos Brigante Oct 2022 #4
Too Bad About Mars BlueKota Oct 2022 #5
He is a Republican YoshidaYui Oct 2022 #6
i think this man in dangerous and its dangerous for us to gove him so much attn... samnsara Oct 2022 #7
A lot of this has to do with Tesla Autopilot Shermann Oct 2022 #8
If you are designing the AI then you BootinUp Oct 2022 #22
I wouldn't bet money on it failing Shermann Nov 2022 #23
That's quite an imagination ya got there, Elon FakeNoose Oct 2022 #9
He could stick to sure-thing, ultra-conservative, revenue-focused predictions like Tim Cook Shermann Oct 2022 #11
I wonder if his Twitter grab KS Toronado Oct 2022 #10
Step 1: He will declare that he considers running for President. DetlefK Oct 2022 #13
He can't run for President without a change in the Constitution. GoCubsGo Oct 2022 #14
He'll do it anyway. Mr.Bill Oct 2022 #16
Thanks, I totally forgot about that! KS Toronado Oct 2022 #19
Uhhhh... FakeNoose Oct 2022 #17
That's FUNNY, got one nodding yes also? KS Toronado Oct 2022 #20
I'm surprised he hasn't gotten into SeaSteading yet Retrograde Oct 2022 #15
Showing Elisabeth Holmes and Theranos made me think that his billions might not be Maraya1969 Oct 2022 #18
Another cylinder of nitrous oxide, please! hatrack Oct 2022 #21

dalton99a

(94,173 posts)
1. World peace is quite possible in two weeks and climate change readily reversible in two years
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 07:19 AM
Oct 2022

if everyone does what Elon tells them to do

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GoCubsGo

(34,918 posts)
3. That's because "the genius" is a clueless hack who lives in Fantasyland.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 07:47 AM
Oct 2022

He comes up with these things as a way to grab attention, and then hands them off for others to do the hard work, while he moves on to his next clown show. He has no fucking idea how to execute any of it, or what that entails. In his warped brain, he thinks it can all be done in a few short years, because he's a genius, you know. The whole Twitter thing is just another of his stunts. He has no friggin' clue how to run it. Three days in, and it's already a huge shitshow.

It's just like Trump running for President. He had (and still has) no goddamn idea what it takes to do the job when he stepped into the job. It was just a publicity stunt for him, too.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
12. And yet, a clueless hack in Fantasyland 'just like Trump' couldn't have built Space X and Starlink.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 01:32 PM
Oct 2022

Personal issues aside, more rethinking about Elon is in order. What he does is more complicated and brilliant than he's given credit for. His Twitter platform will have growing pains but will also grow and monopolize corporate messaging. That should be a concern, since it's not built on cluelessness about tech business.

BlueKota

(5,355 posts)
5. Too Bad About Mars
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 08:40 AM
Oct 2022

It's a shame Mars isn't habitable yet, because since he's so fascinated with it, I think Elon should be among the first to go live there. He can take his buddies with him too.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
8. A lot of this has to do with Tesla Autopilot
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:09 PM
Oct 2022

Self-driving cars are hard mkay?

I think Musk used the early successes of the project to predict how the later stages would go. This is a common pitfall in estimating software development timeframes. Even experienced software engineers get this wrong, and this is especially problematic in the area of artificial intelligence. The best AI systems today are essentially really good at guessing at problems. They don't inherently understand problems the way real intelligence does, whether it is answering a Jeopardy question or making a left turn. They use fuzzy logic to guess at answers with varying degrees of certainty. They are right the majority of the time, and when they are wrong, they can be very, very wrong. So, getting that last mile worked out of Autopilot is going to be an absolute bitch.

BootinUp

(51,325 posts)
22. If you are designing the AI then you
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:32 PM
Oct 2022

Must have a pretty good idea of how good it can guess on the hardest problems. The answer to self driving cars on a range of todays actual everyday road environments is never. That is not to say that I couldn’t see it have limited use in limited environments.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
23. I wouldn't bet money on it failing
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:00 PM
Nov 2022

What makes this tricky is that it really has to be a lot better than human drivers. Averaged over the whole driving population, it is probably at least that good already. That bar isn't very high and that won't be good enough. It can drive like the very best defensive, law-abiding driver 99% of the time. But the first time it makes a crazy left turn onto a traffic circle and obliterates a church bus, people will NEVER forget it.

FakeNoose

(41,651 posts)
9. That's quite an imagination ya got there, Elon
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:13 PM
Oct 2022

You would have made a good - possibly great - science fiction writer. But you've been bilking investors and the stock market for so long now, you're not even sure what's fact and what's fiction.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
11. He could stick to sure-thing, ultra-conservative, revenue-focused predictions like Tim Cook
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 01:18 PM
Oct 2022

That's not really his thing though. Do we really want more of that?

 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
13. Step 1: He will declare that he considers running for President.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 01:39 PM
Oct 2022

Step 2: He will not invest any time or money into building a campaign.

Step 3: He will get into a Twitter-fight with another presidential candidate.

Step 4: He makes HUGE promises what he would do if he were President and how great everything would be.

Step 5: He loses interest and quietly drops out once his ego has been satiated.

GoCubsGo

(34,918 posts)
14. He can't run for President without a change in the Constitution.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 01:48 PM
Oct 2022

He was born in South Africa, so he cannot qualify for the job. And, yes. I know Ted Cruz was born in Canada, but he has the American-born parent loophole.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
16. He'll do it anyway.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 02:13 PM
Oct 2022

It won't work, but that hasn't stopped him from trying all the things listed in this thread. His ignorant fans will cheer him on.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
19. Thanks, I totally forgot about that!
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 03:17 PM
Oct 2022

Well then it's probably to use Twitter to help elect who he wants in.

Retrograde

(11,420 posts)
15. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten into SeaSteading yet
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 02:01 PM
Oct 2022

or maybe he has - it's as far-fetched a Libertarian concept as most of these. He can even use his gonna-work-any-day-now Hyperlink to connect these Randist fantasy islands.

Maraya1969

(23,499 posts)
18. Showing Elisabeth Holmes and Theranos made me think that his billions might not be
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 03:09 PM
Oct 2022

in actual real property and might be the money he has raised by lying about what he is GOING to do - just like she did.

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