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FelineOverlord
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C_U_L8R
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Yorkie Mom
(16,595 posts)Yorkie Mom
(16,595 posts)CNN —
The US Justice Department unsealed charges Monday against two alleged Chinese spies who are accused of interfering with a federal prosecution against a global telecommunications company based in China.
According to charging documents, the Chinese telecommunications company was facing federal prosecution in Brooklyn, New York. Though the indictment does not name the company, a person familiar with the investigation confirmed to CNN that the company is Huawei.
The two alleged spies were charged with obstructing the Justice Department’s prosecution against Huawei.
Attorney General Merrick Garland and other Justice Department officials are scheduled to make an announcement Monday afternoon related to significant national security cases. The department said in a press release that the cases relate to “malign influence schemes and alleged criminal activity by a nation-state actor in the United States.”
More: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/24/politics/chinese-spies-huawei/index.html
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)sure was scared. Something about people screaming.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,847 posts)
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)
Samrob
(4,298 posts)country?
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)And we don't even know if it's about Iran or not, so why bring it up now? Before we bash Garland again, let's at least find out what we are bashing him for this time around.
alfredo
(60,301 posts)
McKim
(2,426 posts)We sure DO care, the MIC could be using billions in our tax dollars over this instead of helping our own people!
Cha
(319,067 posts)seen any news on what happened at the Presser.. I hope it was Good News for Our Democracy! :patrito:
nowforever
(586 posts)Donald Trump will be hanged for high treason at 6am tomorrow. I will tune in.
CanonRay
(16,171 posts)
Takket
(23,715 posts)
calimary
(90,017 posts)No alcohol. I want to be completely clear-headed to savor it all.
WiVoter
(1,619 posts)
milestogo
(23,082 posts)PortTack
(35,820 posts)I think it’s about a hack yes, but not the reason they are quoting. Friday two hacktivists groups, including anonymous announced they had hacked Iran’s nuclear plans and were giving them a set amount of time to respond. The hackers demands were release all political prisoners.
Haven’t been able to get any updates on this
Samrob
(4,298 posts)WTF??? Iran has not invaded another country in modern history. We helped overthrow their DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT BACK IN 1953. Saddam never attacked us. Yet we ruined the lives of millions and are still seemingly about to do it again obsessed with IRAQ and IRAN while Russia, tramples on allies everywhere. Iran exists in a sea of nukes that surround them yet we clamor about Iran becoming a nuke power...stayed silent about India, Israel, Pakistan and never talk about the weapons and secrets they give away to Russia. SMH!
rollin74
(2,300 posts)with a whole bunch of drones being used to attack civilian targets in Ukraine right now
Russia is running low on some types of missiles so they are relying on Iran to provide them with munitions to use against Ukraine
a number of Iranian advisors/trainers were killed in Ukraine the other day too while trying to assist Russian forces
Botany
(77,323 posts)... a flight risk.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)But I, too, wish it would be TFG's indictment.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,604 posts)One campaign begins right after the previous elections. When it comes to political notables, NEVER is a good time to indict. Why is Trump immune from prosecution? He's not on the ballot in November. Does he get special consideration since he's ALWAYS running for the next presidential election? He's ALWAYS a candidate, so he's ALWAYS immune from prosecution. Neat trick, huh?
wnylib
(26,009 posts)You know that it would motivate MAGAs like nothing else could.
Botany
(77,323 posts)President Obama was too close to the elections when he wanted to have Merrick Garland
to just have hearings but Amy Coney Island was given hearings and put onto the court
when the Presidential Elections were actively on going.
And don't forget that Bill Barr made up his own law that you can't indict a sitting President.
BTW TFG is not up for any elected position this fall.
And just because it is close to an election national security is still an issue.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)that we are stuck dealing with.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)that the DOJ can't indict a candidate.
Neither is true -- Garland could indict him now or when he is running.
But it's probably too much to hope for.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)
barbtries
(31,308 posts)he's not running! justice has waited long enough.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Not a chance.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)
LonePirate
(14,367 posts)Take your pick.
triron
(22,240 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)on Mohammad bin Salman, possibly having something to do with Khashoggi.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)I am an effing loser.
Qutzupalotl
(15,823 posts)U.S. to announce criminal cases against a 'nation-state' -Justice Department
Reuters
WASHINGTON, Oct 24 (Reuters) - The top law enforcement officials in the United States will on Monday announce U.S. action targeting "malign influence schemes and alleged criminal activity" by a "nation-state actor," the Department of Justice said.
The national security cases will be discussed at a news conference at 1:30 p.m. (1730 GMT), the department said in a statement, without giving further details. It did not name the country or entity.
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,850 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Add to which, his plane isn't configured for overseas distances (it might make it as far as Iceland).
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,850 posts)I know he took a NetJets plane from Bedminster to Washington National Airport several weeks back. He went to visit people he has working for him at an office in Arlington County.
In September, he also flew into Dulles so that he could visit his golf course in Loudoun County.
Flying commercial doesn't sound like him.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,910 posts)
hlthe2b
(113,957 posts)Yes, I know…lower our expectations
budkin
(6,849 posts)They already said they wouldn't take action before next year on that.
Otto_Harper
(822 posts)Duppers
(28,469 posts)Sounds about right.
I'm one of a few here who think Garland isn't the right person for this job. "Justice delayed is justice denied."
NCjack
(10,297 posts)document to Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, North Korea, or Iran.
packman
(16,296 posts)Should I put the champagne I've been saving for 6 yrs. in the fridge??
wnylib
(26,009 posts)Takket
(23,715 posts)
wryter2000
(47,940 posts)Maybe Trump will have a connection to whatever is going on
Martin68
(27,741 posts)substance to comment on right now.
Ford_Prefect
(8,610 posts)October 24, 2022 8:26 AM
U.S. to announce criminal cases against a 'nation-state' -Justice Department
Reuters
WASHINGTON, Oct 24 (Reuters) - The top law enforcement officials in the United States will on Monday announce U.S. action targeting "malign influence schemes and alleged criminal activity" by a "nation-state actor," the Department of Justice said.
The national security cases will be discussed at a news conference at 1:30 p.m. (1730 GMT), the department said in a statement, without giving further details. It did not name the country or entity.
U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco and Assistant Attorney General for National Security Matthew Olsen along with FBI Director Christopher Wray will "discuss significant national security cases addressing malign influence schemes and alleged criminal activity by a nation-state actor in the United States," the department said.
The Justice Department also did not cite whether the schemes involved or were aimed at the Nov. 8 midterm U.S. elections.
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Some have commented that it may refer to actions taken recently by Iran. Food for thought says I.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,610 posts)U.S. charges two Chinese nationals with Huawei case obstruction-source.
By Jonathan Stempel, Sarah N. Lynch and Karen Freifeld
NEW YORK, Oct 24 (Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors charged two Chinese nationals with trying to obstruct the prosecution of Chinese telecommunications company Huawei Technologies Co Ltd, as part of a broader crackdown on what they called efforts to exert unlawful influence in the United States.
Chinese nationals Guochun He and Zheng Wang were charged in a criminal complaint dated Oct. 20 and made public on Monday. Court documents did not name the company, but a person familiar with the investigation said they were trying to interfere with the prosecution of Huawei (HWT.UL).
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The complaint against He and Wang alleges they tried to obtain confidential information concerning witnesses, trial evidence and any potential new charges the company could face.
To do that, it alleges they tried to recruit someone from a U.S. law enforcement agency who they thought would help them spy for China.
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relayerbob
(7,428 posts)They will do nothing to rock the boat re: Trump. No need to (and a really bad idea) provoke a right wing backlash at this point.
liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)For TFG to face the music
Vinca
(53,992 posts)
kentuck
(115,406 posts)..attempting to help Republicans in hopes they will stop the military assistance to Ukraine?
EnergizedLib
(3,037 posts)And rid us of this nightmare once and for all.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)involving tRump and company. I don't doubt that tRump was involved in malign influence by Russia (only how well he's insulated himself from consequences), and very possibly by other "nation-state actors." What might he have done with national security information of valuel to the hostile leaders he admired?
SuperCoder
(300 posts)So why is the FBI able to scream about Hillary being under investigation days before an election but our DOJ is not going to do the same thing?
It would be perfect justice - an eye for an eye. But noooooooooooooooo.
We get absolute horse crap.
And junk.
And just absolute nothing that has no relevance or appearance of justice AT ALL. I am not interested in anything but arrest and indictment of that a*hole Trump (Hitler)?
triron
(22,240 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)And a fuck-up for a fuck-up is not justice. So if you are not interested in anything but Trump's indictment, why comment on something you are not interested in?
Duppers
(28,469 posts)Orrex
(67,111 posts)Kaleva
(40,365 posts)I'm taking a break from moving right now. Time to get back to work.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)A wonderfully zen activity. 
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,850 posts)Or 90.1 MHz in the DC area.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=c-span+radio
JHB
(38,213 posts)Just finished audio checks
kentuck
(115,406 posts)Would that be a national security issue?
electric_blue68
(26,856 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Takket
(23,715 posts)budkin
(6,849 posts)You can go back to your business...
chriscan64
(1,789 posts)it can only be complicated by having top secret files floating around a golf resort. Even if a connection to the stolen files fails here, we still have to check each one.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Under tRump and the contempt his weakness generated, China and other nations greatly increased lawless pursuit of and vengeance against their nationals in America. This is also about theft of technology and equipment.
President Xi's become extremely aggressive internationally, and this is apparently, as described, "a shot across their bow."
Good! Btw, I've read that China's economy is in serious decline under Xi as he clamps down to reinstitute central socialist control of business and the economy, and its population numbers are collapsing, and that's only going to increase their need to steal technology from abroad.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)I had no idea that kind of harassment was going on.
Why does China keep trying to piss off their best customer? What would its economy look like without the U.S. market?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)
Hey -- maybe President Biden could address his conceits by sending a message to "the land of the setting sun" from "the land of the rising sun" (us to the east) -- the way Japan famously slapped down China's emperor long ago.
In any case, glad we're once again requiring respect on our territory from nations that leaped to abuse during tRump's years.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)Yes, that would be satisfying.
I agree, it is definitely time to let the rest of the world know that intrusions into society and politics will not be tolerated.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)that he was announcing that the DOJ would not be objecting to Trump's request for asylum in Russia.
calimary
(90,017 posts)Gotta say I was really disappointed.
NOTHING ELSE is important as long as that bastard walks free and unindicted.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)In 2019, while the American people were standing flat footed and still in shock that TFG could actually be in the Whitehouse the CPR was conducting espionage that undermined the US republic and threatened democracy.
In 2022, while the American people are sitting on the edge of their seat deathly afraid that the USSRepublican party will take over the legislative branch, thus threatening our democracy the DOJ publicly advertises that our counterespionage capabilities have become so compromised that it takes lawyers (3 years after the fact) to explain how an act of war has been made against our country. Yet they fail to note how TFG made no response at all contemporarily with that act nor do they explain their upstaging the POTUS at this juncture.
This shit is what passes as an excuse for their existence and the reason they've been unable to jail a single high-level traitor for 2 years? It wasn't their priority. It is no surprise that the CPR and the Russian Federation have chosen this era to perform their outrageous activities. We, as a nation, are divided, compromised and vulnerable. Apparently, their oligarchs and ours have agreed on how to divide the remains.
Grasswire2
(13,849 posts)I just thought it was a middle finger to those who are waiting for the worst criminal in American history to face SOME kind of equal justice under the law, dispensed without fear or favor.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Patience is the most valuable personal possession one can own. Squandering it on rehashing, quadruple checking, nit-picking and then after in-depth psychoanalysis refusing to act is tossing your treasure onto the trash heap. When a thing is so serious, and all knowns point to a singularity it is prudent to take physical action into the farthest possible extent supported by existing provable evidence. At this point there should be some law enforcement and DOJ personnel, military officers, congressmen, senators and USSC judges in custody. To date there has been, without explanation, no action such as this taken on any realistic level. It is obviously because the DOJ is itself infected with and all but openly supports the insurrectionists. If either house is taken by the right and the DOJ continues with the charade of investigating the 1/6 violence the whole thing will be further exposed as corrupter and corrupter (as S. Temple might say).
The APB nature of the show and tell put out by the DOJ yesterday was inexplicable in any way except as a "look over there" distraction. It would be interesting to know how POTUS 44's Trans-Pacific Partnership, so condemned by the right, would have affected the efficacy of those CPR shenanigans. Just a thought based on the hypothesis that anything the Republican party can get behind is contaminated by corruption and a conspiracy against the interests of working people.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)All talk, very little action. Setting aside his inaction with regard to tfg and the coup plot, rethugs in Florida are falsely accusing and arresting black voters. This is blatant voter intimidation. Absolutely nothing is being done about it. I'm so disgusted. Why do we have to beg this guy to do his fucking job, especially with so much on the line? He's more worried about kissing the asses of refugs than protecting the country.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Though I would love to see cause for me to eat my words, time is drawing short for that cause to appear. So many have acted in totally bad faith. So many have been royally and self-deceived. So many will reap a world of sadness simply because politeness, skilled public speaking and sociability have passed for understanding the power and responsibility of justice.
Emile
(42,289 posts)If he don't arrest Trump real soon!