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applegrove

(132,238 posts)
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 02:47 PM Oct 2022

How Trump Deflected Demands for Documents

How Trump Deflected Demands for Documents

October 8, 2022 at 7:40 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 46 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/10/08/how-trump-deflected-demands-for-documents/

"SNIP......

New York Times: “Mr. Trump, still determined to show he had been wronged by the F.B.I. investigation into his 2016 campaign’s ties to Russia, was angry with the National Archives and Records Administration for its unwillingness to hand over a batch of sensitive documents that he thought proved his claims.”

“In exchange for those documents, Mr. Trump told advisers, he would return to the National Archives the boxes of material he had taken to Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Fla.”

“Mr. Trump’s aides never pursued the idea. But the episode is one in a series that demonstrates how Mr. Trump spent a year and a half deflecting, delaying and sometimes leading aides to dissemble when it came to demands from the National Archives and ultimately the Justice Department to return the material he had taken.”

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modrepub

(4,112 posts)
1. So How Much Damage Was Done
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 03:15 PM
Oct 2022

to the country and its over seas spy network because our government treated TFG with kids gloves instead of treating him like every other American citizen would have been treated under the same circumstances?!?

rubbersole

(11,224 posts)
3. Something is seriously hinkey the way this was handled...
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:00 PM
Oct 2022

by all the feds that knew what tfg had taken. Something is being kept under wraps that a good reporter hopefully will expose.

Boomerproud

(9,294 posts)
5. The whole truth will come out in a Vanity Fair article or
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:11 PM
Oct 2022

Or if someone gets a $$$ book deal. Give it about 5 years from now. My how cynical I'm getting in my old age.

Ford_Prefect

(8,614 posts)
2. He should have been arrested as he left the White House. Instead he walks free destroying
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022

America more and more with every tweet and each day.

So many knew what he had done who waited until their book deal to come forward. So many in Congress, FBI, Secret Service, DOH and other intel agencies had details, evidence, and and witnesses.

2 years later he's still a threat. His enablers and cohorts in the GOP leadership along with the Christo- Nationalist Dark Money crowd are about to try for another bite in November. AND the F*****g DOJ can't spare the time of day to arrest him, nor any of the Congress and Senate members who knew since 2015 what he was up to, nor Mark Meadows and the other staff whose crimes they had to have some awareness of.

If he were a Democrat or a Black man they would have swept up his entire family before now.

tinrobot

(12,063 posts)
8. Arrested by whom with what evidence and for what crime?
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:29 PM
Oct 2022

The day he left the White House, we didn't even have an Attorney General. That required nomination/approval. So who would have charged him?

Plus, if you're going to arrest someone, you need lots of evidence. Collecting that takes time.

That evidence, once collected, points to the crime with which he'll be charged. That requires a grand jury to hear the evidence and issue the indictment.

Leading him out in handcuffs would have been a nice image, but you have to back it up. It takes time to build a solid case and charge someone.

Ford_Prefect

(8,614 posts)
11. As I said above many people saw him doing things worthy of a grand jury or a bench warrant.
Sun Oct 9, 2022, 07:24 AM
Oct 2022

Some of it was done in broad daylight in front of the whole world. Some was done in front of people who have waited as much as 4-5 years to speak about it in order to secure book deals. Some was done in front of Agency executives and advisers who KNEW what they observed was not only wrong but illegal, as many have said in interview or in front of Congressional committee.

This is to say nothing about the Republican loyalists who would vote for him now or who thought it was THEIR time to be part of the administration according to GOP, and for whom much of it was accepted as the politics of a president however extreme.

Wrong is WRONG anytime it is done. The harm is done when people see it happen and do nothing, or just go along because that's what everyone else is doing.

It did not require impeachment to investigate him and his associations with Putin, Kim, and Mohammed bin Salman, and more significantly their representatives. The intel services had to know some of that horrible tale. We have heard some of that information since the Jan 6th Committee was formed. THey had to know some of it DURING the time it happened as the Mueller Report indicated. The services have an obligation to speak to members of Congress and Senate about such a security threat. If that had been Bezos or any other elite they would have done.

As has been said by others here and elsewhere it was never about finding the evidence. It was about having the will to pursue the legal questions and about upholding the law and the Constitution.

He should have been arrested when he stepped off the helicopter, if not before.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
6. The art of the deal...
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:25 PM
Oct 2022


“In exchange for those documents, Mr. Trump told advisers, he would return to the National Archives the boxes of material he had taken to Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Fla.”

The crazy sumbich still thinks he's got some kind of presidential power to use as leverage. If he ever gets indicted, he may get off with an insanity plea.

gab13by13

(32,345 posts)
9. I mean it has never been about finding evidence to indict Trump,
Sat Oct 8, 2022, 05:37 PM
Oct 2022

it has always been about finding the will to indict a former president.

Letitia James has the will.
Fani Willis has the will.

I am hoping that this theft of top secret documents is the final straw that gives Merrick Garland the will.

I know this for certain, if we lose the House it will be the beginning of the end of our democracy.

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