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sl8

(16,961 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:40 AM Sep 2022

OOPS: McCarthy Accidentally Posts & Frantically Hides Extreme MAGA Agenda (But We Have Screenshots

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/92122-1
(you really need to see the web page, my excerpt doesn't do it justice)
(also, see Dalton99a's post, below )

Alternate link, courtesy of DUer Olestro
https://web.archive.org/web/20220922001439/https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/92122-1


OOPS: McCarthy Accidentally Posts & Frantically Hides Extreme MAGA Agenda (But We Have Screenshots...)

SEPTEMBER 21, 2022 BLOG

From the Speaker's Press Office:

OOPS. Looks like Leader McCarthy fumbled his agenda rollout by accidentally posting the webpage of House Republicans’ “Commitment to America” – and then scrambled to password protect the website again…

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OOPS: McCarthy Accidentally Posts & Frantically Hides Extreme MAGA Agenda (But We Have Screenshots (Original Post) sl8 Sep 2022 OP
Speaker Pelosi has your number, Kevin gratuitous Sep 2022 #1
Easy as pie Deminpenn Sep 2022 #5
Zygote personhood is all the rage. dchill Sep 2022 #2
I'm interested to see how the case in Texas is finally resolved with the pregnant woman catbyte Sep 2022 #18
She won Picaro Sep 2022 #42
Thank you. I agree. BadgerMom Sep 2022 #48
She's a Republican. ShazzieB Sep 2022 #53
You are right about there being multiple stages of prenatal development. ShazzieB Sep 2022 #55
If it were still a zygot, she probably would not have known she was pregnant. soldierant Sep 2022 #62
Next they'll say you're pregnant before you even get laid COL Mustard Sep 2022 #56
Speaker Pelosi says they believe life begins... dchill Sep 2022 #58
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Sep 2022 #3
Roevember is coming Botany Sep 2022 #4
A nationwide abortion ban, higher drug prices, and more voter suppression dalton99a Sep 2022 #6
Thank you. nt sl8 Sep 2022 #7
Dear God ... VOTE, DAMMIT!!! calimary Sep 2022 #10
Let's not forget Traildogbob Sep 2022 #12
Trouble is, so many don't believe it because it's "settled" because most people alive don't halfulglas Sep 2022 #20
I hear the same Traildogbob Sep 2022 #23
So True Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #34
Re:10 year olds refused abortion Alwaysna Sep 2022 #44
Come on now Traildogbob Sep 2022 #45
Old Republican voters don't believe THEIR benefits will ever be cut. Mariana Sep 2022 #43
(Typo) Let's not forget they plan to END Medicaid too! DemSoc Sep 2022 #59
Thank you Traildogbob Sep 2022 #61
It's just another day in Rethuglican Opposite World OMGWTF Sep 2022 #25
Thanks for catching and posting those! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #27
TY dalton.. McCarthy's agenda should Cha Sep 2022 #30
Scary stuff. Sharia law.. n/t TeamProg Sep 2022 #8
... Lucinda Sep 2022 #9
This I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2022 #11
Yeah. I have a friend whose husband is in his 50's, had a serious stroke in his late 40s. halfulglas Sep 2022 #46
I'm in the same boat as you. Elessar Zappa Sep 2022 #65
This should become viral... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #13
The screenshots come up as broken image links for me. intheflow Sep 2022 #14
Yeah nothing showing up for me either. progressoid Sep 2022 #16
Broken screenshots for me as well Sugarcoated Sep 2022 #17
Same here and I was really wanting to see it! Emile Sep 2022 #21
They're broken for me now, as well. sl8 Sep 2022 #24
I've seen it now! intheflow Sep 2022 #35
So broken! bagimin Sep 2022 #32
Click on the words "Commitment to America" where the color is different FakeNoose Sep 2022 #36
I didn't want to go to the Repuke link with pdf, I wanted to see the screen shots intheflow Sep 2022 #39
No worries, it's from Nancy Pelosi's "Speaker" website FakeNoose Sep 2022 #40
Yeah, my desktop worked. Phone...not so much. progressoid Sep 2022 #47
So glad to see Speaker outing her own deplorables lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #15
💜 I just want to rip my hair from my skull Heather MC Sep 2022 #19
This is also in response to PAC ads that tell watchers to go to the House Republicans' site and read ancianita Sep 2022 #22
For a party that claims to be for small government; Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2022 #26
Even if McCarthy didn't want this material to get out... Silent3 Sep 2022 #28
That's quite a sound point. One would need 5th grade reading comprehension skills to get this stuff. jaxexpat Sep 2022 #41
that agenda barbtries Sep 2022 #29
OMG WTF LittleGirl Sep 2022 #31
K&R! burrowowl Sep 2022 #33
OMG, this would kill people Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #37
It would literally kill the poor I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2022 #67
K & R Stuart G Sep 2022 #38
Definitely read the link in case it's not all already known. This is real. Hortensis Sep 2022 #49
THIS. MUST. BE. COMMUNICATED! Atticus Sep 2022 #50
They are no better at hiding their own agenda than they are with National Security DFW Sep 2022 #51
this is so interesting. gonna book mark it Trueblue1968 Sep 2022 #52
Here it is (props to internet wayback machine) Olestro Sep 2022 #54
Thank you, will add to OP. nt sl8 Sep 2022 #57
Retweet, Pass It On Irishxs Sep 2022 #60
K&R. Wednesdays Sep 2022 #63
Yet there are still Both Sides/My Vote Doesn't Count/That Won't Affect Me people. betsuni Sep 2022 #64
McCarthy Ladythatvotesblue Sep 2022 #66

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Speaker Pelosi has your number, Kevin
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:46 AM
Sep 2022

It's very telling that this bumbler passes for leadership in today's Republican party.

catbyte

(38,511 posts)
18. I'm interested to see how the case in Texas is finally resolved with the pregnant woman
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:06 PM
Sep 2022

who got a ticket for traveling in the HOV lane, lol. She's arguing that since a fetus is now apparently "a person," then she should be allowed to use the HOV lane. Her first ticket was dismissed, but she recently got another one. This is going to bring up all kinds of issues.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pregnant-texas-woman-claiming-unborn-baby-hov-lane-hit-second-ticket-rcna45629

Picaro

(2,315 posts)
42. She won
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:28 PM
Sep 2022

There is now a legal precedent for an unborn having the full legal rights of a living person in Texas. I know that Texas will make full use of this. Precedent is to be honored if it advances their patriarchal cause.

I left the term off after unborn, because I can't say fetus. It could be a zygote. There are distinct developmental stages and what you call it changes depending on the stage.

This is simply insane. No culture that I'm aware of has ever believed something unborn is endowed with either spiritual or legal rights.

Once you declare that human life begins at conception--that a zygote is imbued with person hood--then legal insanity begins. A woman becomes a secondary person with lesser rights. The growth inside her, like something out of Alien or Rosemary's Baby, suddenly has more rights than the host.

This all nauseates me. My wife and daughters are not lesser people. This is deeply wrong.

There's nothing cute or funny about this.

BadgerMom

(3,373 posts)
48. Thank you. I agree.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:04 PM
Sep 2022

Reading these passages actually makes me feel ill. And afraid. These people are monsters. And how can Stefanik, a woman, think any of this is okay?

I get it. The Republican leadership is inept. For that I’m grateful, but not amused. This is too sickening, too frightening, to amuse me.

ShazzieB

(22,108 posts)
55. You are right about there being multiple stages of prenatal development.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:32 PM
Sep 2022

I know of four:

Zygote: An ovum that has just been fertilized but hasn't yet subdivided into multiple cells.

Blastocyst: The ball of cells that forms when a zygote subdivides into multiple cells, about five to six days after a sperm fertilizes an egg. It implants in the uterine wall, eventually becoming the embryo and then the fetus.

Embryo: About 10 to 12 days after fertilization, the blastocyst develops into an embryo. It remains an embryo until about nine weeks after implantation, when it then becomes a fetus.

Fetus: The stage from about week nine until birth.

Note: The forced birthers like to talk about protecting the unborn beginning with "conception." They define "conception" from the moment of fertilization (the zygote stage). However, it's not possible to diagnose a pregnancy until implantation in the uterine wall has occurred, and it's believed that, in the normal course of events, between 1/3 and 1/2 of fertilized eggs never fully implant.

Imo, this means, even IF one buys into the notion of pre-birth "personhood" (a very, very big "if," it's ludicrous to extend such a status to every egg that gets fertilized. We know that there is no pregnancy until implantation, which means these people want to define "personhood" as beginning before there's an actual pregnancy!

This obsession with "personhood" beginning at the moment a sperm fertilizes an ovum is why the forced borthers want to outlaw all forms of birth control that they believe might possibly interfere with implantation in some way. This includes all hormone-based forms of birth control, which they insist (based on no scientific evidence whatsoever) prevent implantation.

For more on when pregnancy begins and the implications of how that is defined, see: https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2005/05/implications-defining-when-woman-pregnant

soldierant

(9,243 posts)
62. If it were still a zygot, she probably would not have known she was pregnant.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:00 PM
Sep 2022

But it could be an embryo or it could be a fetus.

COL Mustard

(7,912 posts)
56. Next they'll say you're pregnant before you even get laid
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:51 PM
Sep 2022

"Pregnant from birth, so no abortions possible ever". Try them. They are so extreme.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
58. Speaker Pelosi says they believe life begins...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:07 PM
Sep 2022

...at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Botany

(76,159 posts)
4. Roevember is coming
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:49 AM
Sep 2022

ATTN American women and those of us who support them this is what they are all about.

The extreme MAGA House GOP is already on record about how they intend to implement their extreme plans for a federal law to criminalize abortion in all 50 states:

166 House Republicans, including GOP Whip Scalise and Chair Stefanik, have co-sponsored a “Life Begins at Conception” bill that would use the 14th Amendment to criminalize all abortion after the moment of fertilization, with absolutely no exceptions for rape, incest or the health of the woman.
179 House Republicans have co-sponsored or endorsed as members of the Republican Study Committee a bill to criminalize abortion nationwide after six weeks, before most women even know they are pregnant, with no exceptions for rape or incest, explicitly punishable by 5-year sentences in federal prison for doctors.
205 House Republicans voted in support of arresting, finding or suing women for traveling across state lines to obtain an abortion.
195 House Republicans voted against the fundamental right to contraception.
210 House Republicans voted against restoring the fundamental rights that women had for almost 50 years under Roe v. Wade, with the Women’s Health Protection Act.

calimary

(88,769 posts)
10. Dear God ... VOTE, DAMMIT!!!
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:26 AM
Sep 2022

As though your life depended on it.

And BECAUSE YOUR RIGHTS depend on it!

Traildogbob

(12,395 posts)
12. Let's not forget
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:31 AM
Sep 2022

Their plan to END SS, Medicare, Medicare, ACA, and veterans benefits. How the fuck is this not plastered everywhere. It’s all in writing????????

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
20. Trouble is, so many don't believe it because it's "settled" because most people alive don't
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:08 PM
Sep 2022

Remember a time when Social Security wasn't a working entity. Working in the background, but working. You mention to people it's part of the Republican agenda and you get, "It'll never happen," or "only a few are saying that," or "Dem scare tactics."

What most people don't understand is that Big Business has ALWAYS resented the EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION to Social Security. They think it's money taken out of THEIR POCKETS to give to those who don't deserve it, with them being the ones who decide who deserves it. That's been part of their agenda ever since 1933. After all, they think it's the duty of all people to set aside sufficient funds for their old age, despite the fact that there are huge segments of the population who can't live on what they are making now, much less put money aside. The fact that the Federal minimum wage has not budged doesn't matter to them. (That's another thing that rankles many of them. They don't think there should be any minimum wage. They want to pay the employer what they think they're worth.)

Considering the income of the American family today is equal to the income of the family with single income earnings of the 1970s is that now it includes both parents working full time and sometimes one of those parents also having an additional part-time job.

When you go to a financial planner to get help for retirement planning your, they factor in income from Social Security, VA benefits, etc. They end that and it throws at least half the population out of wack for, well forever.

They think this is their time to strike. They have gotten so much since 2016 teaming up with racists, evangelicals and America firsters. They think it's time to get THEIR country back.

Traildogbob

(12,395 posts)
23. I hear the same
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:23 PM
Sep 2022

“That will never happen, there would be an uproar”. Well ask any women if she ever thought she would be required by law, At age 10 she would be required to carry her daddies fetus to term. Never gonna happen right. And in the very near future, you may not even have any ability to vote them out. We gotta be make than woke, we gotta really wake the hell up right now. Or we lose it all. They want old people to fill those minimum wage fast food jobs that are beggin for workers. If those franchises help end SS, all those jobs will be filled. Out of necessity. Keeping their billions, untaxed flowing in to continue buying the government.

Farmer-Rick

(12,386 posts)
34. So True
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:38 PM
Sep 2022

Years ago I had the misfortune of having to talk to a bunch of GOPers, females over 68. I asked why would they ever vote for a Republican when they want to take away your Social Security. They all were on Social Security.

They said that Republicans would never do that. They just ran on the issue to get votes, but they would never take away their Social Security. They really believe all the awful things GOPers want to do wont apply to them.

Alwaysna

(578 posts)
44. Re:10 year olds refused abortion
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:59 PM
Sep 2022

Is Playtex going to start making training bras that are also nursing bras? Are school girls going to need "lactation rooms" so they can pump milk for their babies instead of having a recess?

Traildogbob

(12,395 posts)
45. Come on now
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:04 PM
Sep 2022

That’s post birth. They don’t give a damn about born children or their mothers.

Mariana

(15,611 posts)
43. Old Republican voters don't believe THEIR benefits will ever be cut.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:38 PM
Sep 2022

They believe any cuts in benefits will only affect younger people, which is just fine with them. And they're probably right - that's how benefit cuts have been done in the past.

DemSoc

(52 posts)
59. (Typo) Let's not forget they plan to END Medicaid too!
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:03 PM
Sep 2022

Typo... Surely you meant "Let's not forget their plan to END SS, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA, and veterans' benefits."

"How the fuck is this not plastered everywhere???" Yeah, it's mindboggling Traildogbob!

OMGWTF

(4,992 posts)
25. It's just another day in Rethuglican Opposite World
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:33 PM
Sep 2022

where denying your right to vote, or to have more bodily autonomy than a dead person, or taking away the benefits you paid into your entire working life equals "protecting our rights and defending the Constitution."

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,325 posts)
11. This
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:31 AM
Sep 2022

Scares the living shit out of me. I am disabled and get ssi and hud housing. If those republican fuckers get away with
screwing the vote,and get control I will be homeless in 5 years. Last time I was homeless I went full blown psychotic. If I can't afford my meds,rent,food,utilities or hospitalization there is a good chance I'll be dead.

I despise republicans and if they screw the vote and it looks like they are set up to do that all the way to the supreme court..

I'm as good as dead. Literally.

Is there a way to stop this sociopathic inhumane bullshit cold along with gotv? I sure hope so. We need a plan B,C,D,E,F....

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
46. Yeah. I have a friend whose husband is in his 50's, had a serious stroke in his late 40s.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:08 PM
Sep 2022

He's on disability. His wife has a good job but their quality of life would be really crappy if he didn't receive his disability. My ex-husband and his brother were able to finish college because of survivor benefits when his father died when my ex was still in his teens.

If Republicans had their way, SS would continue going fine for a while, the first or second revote to continue it would go smoothly. Then each one of the next ones would be harder and Dems would have to kiss a lot of Republican asses to get the bill passed (oh, so many little changes) and it would get harder and harder; it would be like the voting bills and the violence against women laws.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
65. I'm in the same boat as you.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 08:54 AM
Sep 2022

I have severe cystic fibrosis and get SSDI and Medicare/Medicaid. If these programs are killed, I’m fucked.

progressoid

(52,467 posts)
16. Yeah nothing showing up for me either.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:51 AM
Sep 2022

Kind of ironic that they have screenshots but we can't see the screenshots.

sl8

(16,961 posts)
24. They're broken for me now, as well.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:31 PM
Sep 2022

I'm not sure what happened.

Did you see see Dalton99a's post?

FakeNoose

(39,875 posts)
36. Click on the words "Commitment to America" where the color is different
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:40 PM
Sep 2022

Those a links to the PDF flyer, and you download each flyer, open with your PDF viewer.

It's awkward I know. I'm not sure if this can be done on a phone, but certainly a desktop or laptop could handle it.

intheflow

(29,940 posts)
39. I didn't want to go to the Repuke link with pdf, I wanted to see the screen shots
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

Pelosi posted of the content McCarthy took down. DUer dalton99a was kind enough to take her own screen captures and posted them upthread.

FakeNoose

(39,875 posts)
40. No worries, it's from Nancy Pelosi's "Speaker" website
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:02 PM
Sep 2022

She grabbed the screens and posted them so the other Democratic leaders could see what McCarthy had and deleted. If you click on those links, you're getting them from Pelosi's webpage.

I will not post them myself, because we don't want to publicize rightwing talking points on DU.

lindysalsagal

(22,823 posts)
15. So glad to see Speaker outing her own deplorables
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:49 AM
Sep 2022

Just like Biden calls out magats.

These people are scary because they really believe their religious crap and that they should use the US democracy to indoctrinate all non-believers.

They'll start killing "witches" if they're not stopped.

These fools should move to the mountains and live their 10th century non-tech lives with candles and open fireplaces and leave us the hell alone.

Go ahead: surrender your tv, cell phone, all of it, and live like it's 1053. Have a good time.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
19. 💜 I just want to rip my hair from my skull
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:08 PM
Sep 2022

These people are monsters, and I'm sure that if their mothers could have aborted them, they would have. I'm convinced the elected Republican party is made up of men whose mothers didn't choose to love them.

And they raised monsters

ancianita

(42,729 posts)
22. This is also in response to PAC ads that tell watchers to go to the House Republicans' site and read
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:10 PM
Sep 2022

this agenda for themselves.

These PAC ads have rolled out over the last week or so in Florida, and I'm guessing probably elsewhere.

I'd bet that Republicans are more afraid of voters' calls and complaints about their "agenda" than they are afraid of Pelosi's opinion posts, and that's why I think he's trying to hide what he should have the party cajones to stand up for.

Republicans are changing their minds, and their leadership dreads that.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(16,179 posts)
26. For a party that claims to be for small government;
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:36 PM
Sep 2022

there is a whole lot of governmentin' in that list!

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
28. Even if McCarthy didn't want this material to get out...
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:52 PM
Sep 2022

...it's still all being said in Republican double-speak.

The average voter doesn't automatically translate this bullshit into the true sentiments and policies it represents, so this stuff isn't going to be as shocking as some here would hope for it to be.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
41. That's quite a sound point. One would need 5th grade reading comprehension skills to get this stuff.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:09 PM
Sep 2022

That pretty much leaves way too many asking their "smart" friends to interpret for them. That's how Newt got elected, you know. Handing out free interpretation of plain speech to citizens of Georgia can be quite profitable. Of course, these days it has become acceptable to call it snake-oil salesman style lying, which it always was. Apparently, Kevin is still a little behind the curve on this. Though, credit his memory, it has worked well in the past.

Farmer-Rick

(12,386 posts)
37. OMG, this would kill people
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:43 PM
Sep 2022

ending Social Security; ending Medicare; making ALL abortions illegal, no exceptions for life of the mother, with jail time for women.

Take away women's right to vote??????? End of democracy.

This is a seriously scary agenda. It will kill off the middle class in America .

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,325 posts)
67. It would literally kill the poor
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 06:01 PM
Sep 2022

And disabled in droves. Middle class might be made poor but they would not die.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. Definitely read the link in case it's not all already known. This is real.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:21 PM
Sep 2022

Almost all Americans plan for retirement that includes the Social Security retirement fund and Medicare post-retirement medical coverage they paid into during their working lives. Many have little to nothing else.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
50. THIS. MUST. BE. COMMUNICATED!
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 04:30 PM
Sep 2022

Why not a series of 15 second "Bullet points from the GOP plan" on TV?

DFW

(59,635 posts)
51. They are no better at hiding their own agenda than they are with National Security
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 05:17 PM
Sep 2022

I am waiting for a screenplay of the Keystone Congressmen

My loudest objection is over being forced to take these people seriously--or, rather, the danger they pose.

Irishxs

(622 posts)
60. Retweet, Pass It On
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:04 PM
Sep 2022

This is screaming to be retweeted, shared, emailed or whatever you do.

betsuni

(28,621 posts)
64. Yet there are still Both Sides/My Vote Doesn't Count/That Won't Affect Me people.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:06 AM
Sep 2022

I hope I don't get hit by a bus before the midterms, I need to know what happens. If there isn't massive turnout for Democrats...

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