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Its weird traditions and everything. And Im like, Jesus, enough with the Queen! I mean, its America. We dont have a queen. I get it. You know, Queen was a nice lady, I guess she was born, you know, my whole life, the queen has been the same queen and theres a tradition there and she did her duty to her country. I get it. I get it. I get it. But we gotta get back to Trump and where those papers are that they found that Mar-A-Lago, he said. You dont like the distraction of the queen? co-host Robin Quivers asked.
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/jesus-enough-with-the-queen-howard-stern-fumes-over-annoying-media-coverage-of-monarchs-passing/
Walleye
(44,797 posts)For crying out loud two weeks of coverage for 70 years of service? Have to admit that 70 years is a long time to hold down the same job
ChazInAz
(3,017 posts)I still remember the coverage of Churchill's death and funeral.
He may have been uncommon, but he was a commoner.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)He's absolutely correct... our news media should be focused on trump's crimes, the war in Ukraine, and our upcoming election, not this clown show.
Magoo48
(6,721 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,052 posts)Tommymac
(7,334 posts)Kaleva
(40,365 posts)pnwmom
(110,260 posts)Kaleva
(40,365 posts)pnwmom
(110,260 posts)REAL news.
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)pnwmom
(110,260 posts)the coffin, or handshaking on the streets.
I have some English ancestry, but that hasn't made me interested in days of this coverage. And I'm in a small minority these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Americans#:~:text=A%20decade%20thereafter%2C%20in%202020,7.7%25%20of%20the%20U.S.%20population.
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)pnwmom
(110,260 posts)Even MSNBC's political analyst Richard Stengel.
Stengel stated in a Thursday appearance on MSNBC that the reason there was so much coverage from the United States was due to the weakness in the American character.
You played a clip of her speaking in Cape Town in 1947, in South Africa. Thats the year apartheid took effect in South Africa, Stengel said.
That was something British colonialism ushered in. British colonialism, which she presided over, had a terrible effect on much of the world.
. . . . Theres a weakness in the American character that still yearns for that era of hereditary privilege, which is the very thing that we escaped from.
https://barrettsportsmedia.com/2022/09/12/richard-stengel-queen-elizabeth-ii-death-got-too-much-coverage-in-u-s/
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)pnwmom
(110,260 posts)They chose instead to keep up their anti-Biden anti-Dem attacks, while MSNBC and CNN largely shifted away from US politics.
Liberal In Texas
(16,270 posts)At least today there has been some actual news mixed in with the Dead Queen coverage.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217142766
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Nothing I said implies otherwise.
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)Although ,with the internet, I do find it easy to find reporting on issues I'm interested in as it is. I think it's the same for you.
All the coverage I've seen about the Queen is here at DU
I am getting my news from Al Jazeera and Euro News to get news from around the world. They will have an update on the British Crown but then move on. Even Canadian News (we are part of the commonwealth), while too much time spent on the Queen's death, I find that the US news networks worse. It has to be they are using the death of the Queen to deflect from reporting the woes of Trump.
Stuckinthebush
(11,203 posts)Add me to the agree column.
NNadir
(38,037 posts)the Monarch "Queen Elizabeth" covered with dirt or concrete or whatever.
I mean, maybe she was a nice lady, but that does not really mean she was an important to the sustainability of the world.
The butterflies, to my mind, are important.
tenderfoot
(8,982 posts)eom
edhopper
(37,368 posts)It has been the MAIN News story since she passed. That is the problem.
Midnight Writer
(25,406 posts)The same people saying the same things over and over. 24 hours per day.
The rest of the world did not stop because of this, and I doubt this will make much difference in very many American's lives.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)I don't love Stern, but I think in light of the much more important stories going on in the US and in the world, the US networks have been devoting much too much time to the 96 year old Queen of another country.
Justice matters.
(9,786 posts)
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)Coverage of the British Royal Family is essentially like coverage of the Kardashian family. It's gossip fodder and obsession with status on a slightly more elevated level.
Obviously people enjoy both, and i don't decry their escapist joy. We all need it. (I get mine from watching Big Brother in the summers.)
Justice matters.
(9,786 posts)It's like the US never won its hard-fought Independence!
Sick of the medias here.
ripcord
(5,553 posts)Tommymac
(7,334 posts)And THAT is my opinion.
Martin68
(27,741 posts)that is.
Ocelot II
(130,519 posts)ripcord
(5,553 posts)Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)My hubby listens to him.
ChazII
(6,448 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)Ocelot II
(130,519 posts)I've rather enjoyed not hearing about him or seeing his ugly orange face for a change. But the 1/6 Committee hearings will be starting again this month, so he'll be back. Coverage re: the Queen is temporary, but TFG will be with us for a long time...
calimary
(90,017 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 12, 2022, 10:52 PM - Edit history (1)
I realize theres tremendous disagreement here. Im NOT complaining OR deriding it.
But knowing trumps hunger for being the center of attention, Im actually kinda thrilled that hes been bigfooted by the Queen coverage. He needs to be bigfooted by SOMEBODY, for Heavens sake!
I imagine hes already making notes about how to dominate (and Bigfoot HER final ceremonies) when he finally shuts up for the last time - and probably expects a Royal funeral for himself.
Besides - 70 years. SEVENTY YEARS on the throne of England et al. She touched the whole world. Well never see her likes again. Something we can hope and pray for at the end of trump, also.
Only thing I could easily do without is the commentary from Sally Bedell Smith. OY, that creaky voice!
And - as for Howard Stern, he can just go fuck himself.
Ocelot II
(130,519 posts)And that makes me happy.
calimary
(90,017 posts)ROYALLY delightful - which, Im delighted to say, WONT be so, for him.
No matter how big the attending entourage or how gold-colored his coffin might be whenever he finally kicks the bucket.
Ive never sipped champagne while watching a funeral. But I will on THAT greatly-anticipated day!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,454 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Was there an indictment? A lawsuit? A new exposé? Or do you just want more opinion discussions that you already agree with?
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)That beats knowing the exact geolocation of the late queen's corpse in my opinion.
I am not watching any TV coverage at the moment, but if I were, I'd prefer less "opinion discussions" and more news, as long as you are asking.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)WASHINGTON Donald Trump and his son Eric visited the former presidents golf club in northern Virginia on Monday, one day after the elder Trumps abrupt arrival in the DC area sparked wild speculation about his legal troubles.
Trump, wearing a red Make America Great Again hat, was photographed speaking with a group of employees on the course at Trump National Golf Club Washington, DC.
The ex-president drove his own cart, accompanied by his middle son, an executive vice president at the Trump Organization.
Larry Glick, executive vice president for development at the Trump Organization, also joined Trump on the course.
https://nypost.com/2022/09/12/trump-visits-virginia-golf-course-during-working-trip-to-dc-area/
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)I suspect there are many more examples of news more important than the imperial carrion chase.
HAB911
(10,440 posts)we get to do this all over again when the new guy passes
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)But he's godamn right
But we gotta get back to Trump and where those papers are that they found that Mar-A-Lago, he said
Tetrachloride
(9,623 posts)UTUSN
(77,795 posts)bif
(26,994 posts)Tommymac
(7,334 posts)Americans need to hear about things that REALLY affect their lives on the news. After the initial reporting and coverage of the funeral, this wall to wall queen coverage is all kabucki designed to distract ordinary people from the problems the 1% has created in this world.
AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)ChazII
(6,448 posts)CNN is discussing what is happening with Ukrainian offenses and Faux is discussing El Paso now sending buses to NYC.
CNN just took a commercial break, Faux is now talking about VP Harris while MSNBC is still covering the monarchy.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)is called "service"?
This queen should have repudiated the notion of a monarchy a long time, along with her extravagant upkeep. Britain would not have suffered for tourism.
Happy Hoosier
(9,535 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)The Third Doctor
(449 posts)I do think these news services are 24hrs so there should be enough time to cover more than EIIs death. I'm not saying it shouldn't be covered but the coverage especially on msnbc has been overboard.
liberalla
(11,088 posts)They could cut it back some... it's not breaking news anymore.
I'd rather have coverage of Ukraine or Jan 6, or the missing top secret national security files.
Iggo
(49,927 posts)But if you read the news instead of watch it, you can avoid a hundred percent of that shit.
The Mouth
(3,414 posts)Howard Stern has done nothing but shit all over the airwaves for the entertainment of the lowest intellectual strata for decades. He isn't fit to clean the puke off a sidewalk.
SergeStorms
(20,590 posts)and helped make him famous.
Maybe we should have the media investigate why Stern had all of those criminals on his show. Why did you give Trump and all those other criminals air time, Howard?
Ratings. Right, Howard?
Stern and Trump are cut from the same cloth. Its self-promotion and always about them.
Tree Lady
(13,282 posts)Thought it was a joke, when he got serious Howard was all for Hillary and said why and then was all for Biden.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Trump was on Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous several times. He had his own board game, editions of Monopoly, etc...
I am not arguing that Stern didn't promote Trump for his own ratings, but to say that Stern elevated and made Trump famous is inaccurate. Stern used Trump's fame to draw attention to himself and his show. He did not pluck Trump from obscurity and lift him to fame.
I would not compare Stern and Trump, certainly they both have an interest in keeping their names relevant, but that is where the similarities end.
SergeStorms
(20,590 posts)Trump was well known in NYC and surrounding states, but Stern has a national audience and he helped spread Trump's name throughout.
"Helped" is the key word in my statement.
As far as self-promotion and ego, they're both cut from the same cloth. Maybe you're not aware of how much of a prick Stern can be, and how petty and vindictive he can be as well.
You seem to have a high opinion of Howard Stern. He deserves no such praise and esteem, believe me. He's every bit as foul and nasty as Trump. Perhaps not quite as dishonest, so I'll give you that much.
Jarqui
(10,908 posts)when Charles speech gets national network attention in the US
but Biden's speech on his concerns for the democracy don't,
I do not think it is unfair to question those priorities.
Charles is a figurehead relic that the US left behind in 1776.
Biden is fighting to keep what got started in 1776 going.
I think the US network decision on this is appalling and stinks.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,052 posts)The didn't cover their President's speech at a critical turning point in our Democracy.
bonniebgood
(958 posts)Iggo
(49,927 posts)Mad ups, yo.
NH Ethylene
(31,343 posts)He has a point about the queen. It should have been the lead news the day she died, but from then on it should have been talked about but not the lead story each day.
The US cares, but not THAT much.
housecat
(3,138 posts)The visuals of Scotland and England are stunning. Putin treachery, Trump treason, and Ukranian patriotism aren't going anywhere while we take a brief break to enjoy watching the funeral and customs of an historic monarchy. stfu Howard. "Excessive media coverage" gave us trump and the subsequent unraveling of Democracy. It's been decades in the making, then six years of trump's pathetic existence, and his romances with murderous dictators that we've been force-fed. Not just Fox bullshit, but propaganda on every outlet owned by the corporate media.They control what we think. I'm drifting, but I make no excuses for taking a short break to observe something other than non-stop obscene treachery in Russia, by Russians in Ukraine, and their quest to destroy America and the West. Slava Ukraini.
orleans
(36,912 posts)i understand the queen and the rituals regarding the monarch are newsworthy
i also understand that trump & the stolen documents is far more important for those of us on this side of the pond (as the expression goes)
if the media could walk and chew gum at the same time that would be great
twodogsbarking
(18,776 posts)Emile
(42,283 posts)why?
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)Response to Mr. Sparkle (Original post)
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Kaleva
(40,365 posts)one can easily be well informed about any issue they are interested in and not see much of anything about the Queen.
I think people are more upset about others not watching or reading news that they believe is important for others to see.
If it wasn't for DU, I wouldn't know didly squat about the Queen's passing nor would I know that some think the coverage is excessive. As for myself, I look for and easily find coverage about the war in UKR.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Stern is still of the generation of us who got our news from the legacy papers, the Big Three broadcasters, and the beginnings of Cable News. Media was put out to us and we watched, Tom Brokaw, Ted Koppel, Dan Rather, etc...
You are absolutely right that now, you can seek out whatever niche of news you want. If you want to watch all about Ukraine, all about the Fed and the interest rate hikes, all about Trump, all about what is happening with the neighbors down the street, etc... you can do that.
Like I said, I think Stern is mostly talking about the major news outlets that are still fed to viewers who turn on the television or only look at the major headlines online.
Like you, I heard the Queen died, thought, "Oh, sad for her family" then never looked for or cared about any other story related to the Queen. I have very little interest in royalty or celebrity.
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)Sympthsical
(10,969 posts)Every morning I load some usual sites, open a bunch of tabs with stories I'm interested in, and read. Anything I don't care about doesn't get opened. I've been Trumped out for ages. I just don't care about the day-to-day. When something important happens, it'll be a big blaring headline. That is sufficient for me. I have no cause to obsess daily over details that may or may not be relevant or factual.
I think if someone is spending a lot of their time watching cable news or social media, they've limited themselves to very specific streams of information. And if those limited streams are overtaken by an event they don't like, they get very cantankerous - because they don't see anything else. And because they don't, they assume no one else does either.
This morning, I saw a lot of posts complaining about the Queen and "Why aren't we talking about Trump?!" So I opened a bunch of sites like CNN, NYT, MSNBC, etc, and there was all the Trump stuff on the upper half of the page on nearly every single one. Anyone who wants to read about Trump and discuss him has all the tools and information readily available to them.
I think it's also, "People aren't talking about what I want to talk about!" tantrums. Those types make for the dreariest dinner companions.
budkin
(6,849 posts)It's ridiculous.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)than they did on Tiger Woods' car accident.
llashram
(6,269 posts)the queen is dead, long live the king...move on
dlk
(13,247 posts)Some men cant handle a woman in the headlines for any length of time.
Martin68
(27,741 posts)anti-woman or anti-feminist. It is anti-monarchy, anti-elite, and anti-absurdity
dlk
(13,247 posts)Martin68
(27,741 posts)"Some men cant handle a woman in the headlines for any length of time." I suggested criticism of the over-reporting on the funeral and life of Queen Elizabeth II has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. I love Charles no more than I love Elizabeth. I think the brouhaha obscures the fact that the British monarchy is an anachronistic institution with a vile history of subjugation, death, and destruction. The pageantry of the monarchy is just a Cecil B. DeMille dog and pony show with a cast of thousands, fancy costumes, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
treestar
(82,383 posts)will get them the most viewers. They will never cover what they "should." Whatever will get the most eyeballs on the ads.
DFW
(60,182 posts)I find myself able to handle the media's coverage of both, and that's from 4000 miles and six time zones from Washington. Maybe it's easier when the main media I watch is German, and they are most focused on how the country's housing units are going to heat themselves this winter.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)displaced, day after day, by the British royalty extravaganza.
Enough already!
DFW
(60,182 posts)I don't think I was missing out on much, either, even while the Queen was still alive.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)as on the BBC.
DFW
(60,182 posts)Here at home, it's ARD and ZDF, and occasionally a German, Swiss, Austrian or private German-language cable station. My w+ife's English is good, but she still has difficulty with some nuances of TV news jingoisms. So we watch only German language programs when we're together.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)if cable news wasn't full of royalty instead.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)Silent3
(15,909 posts)Threats to US democracy and developments in Ukraine are just two way more important topics to be covering.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Torchlight
(6,821 posts)Which is my position on most things: if I'm uninterested or have no real investment in a story, I ignore it; but if I assert I don't care at all, then advertise that lack of care to all who would hear, and go on and on about how little I care, I'd be forced to realize that on one level or another, I do care.
I don't really care about football, and no one will see me chiming in on any discussions about the game with my hackles raised and my fist in the air telling people I don't care about they're discussing. It would be counter-productive to my apathy regarding the game. Despite its prominence in local news, I'm not really distracted by it, and I go onto pursuing my interests with it or without it.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Martin68
(27,741 posts)held up as a symbol of stability. How silly is that? If Britain would fall apart without a King or Queen, then they deserve to. It's a country that needs to grow up.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Aguy who interviews porn stars and whomever a frat boy audience swoons over seems to me to have an irrelevant opinion.
nb: I could care less about the British Royals. Haven't watched a minute of the funeral coverage. But I don't feel the need to vent my spleen about their social-political structure.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)is displacing everything else.
And we're supposed to be in the middle of an election here in the US, but almost no discussion of that on TV these days.
Martin68
(27,741 posts)but Stern does, and I agree with him. The public school boys who ran the empire were overdressed frat boys who engaged in a trade of human and drug trafficking. They were no better than porn stars.
Martin68
(27,741 posts)monarchy. All of this starry-eyed mooning over the British royal family turns my stomach. The British Crown has left a history of death, destruction, starvation, torture, and genocide in their wake. All of this, "nothing will ever be the same" and "she was such a stable influence," if true, is proof the monarchy must go.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)IcyPeas
(25,474 posts)he probably complained about a dozen other things on his show.
leftstreet
(40,669 posts)...or have recently lost
I've seen news clips with mourners of a certain age in tears, kinda triggering maybe
Personally I tune in occasionally to see if I'm mentioned in Elizabeth's will
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)Donald Trump.
tishaLA
(14,775 posts)(well, OK it is somewhat), it's that so much of the coverage is hagiographic. I saw an interview when I was half asleep this morning with one of the "royal experts" talking about her love of horses and how the horses knew that she was in control and on and on. I was expecting it to end with "and she could have competed in equestrian events in the Olympics if she'd chosen to," but he mercifully held back on that.
I get that we all want to create mythographies and create totems, but maybe lay it on a bit less thick.
GuppyGal
(1,748 posts)GEE-ZUZ
Tarc
(10,601 posts)than the demise of a the head of what is essentially an expensive medial cosplay company.
Relics of a dead era, dissolve the whole thing.
DavidDvorkin
(20,589 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I guess he was edgy or something 40 years ago.