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Girard442

(6,887 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 01:01 PM Aug 2022

Why a plea bargain with the TFG is nearly impossible.

Lots of us have wondered if a bargain could be struck that would have TFG permanently exiting politics, disappearing from the public eye, and generally STFU in exchange for no prosecution.


Ah, no. TFG is a complete sociopath who would renege on any bargain in a heartbeat. Then what? Litigate that? Besides, what prosecutor could make a case for letting TFG go with any bargain given what we know now?

Maybe if ritual suicide is part of the deal.

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Why a plea bargain with the TFG is nearly impossible. (Original Post) Girard442 Aug 2022 OP
And he can't go to a prison obviously Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #1
DoJ is focusing on the Obstruction of Justice for months and months. Justice matters. Aug 2022 #4
And I have been saying since day one of Barr Attorney General Eliot Rosewater Aug 2022 #5
He has too many "friends" working inside the DoJ for decades. Justice matters. Aug 2022 #6
Yes there seem to be no laws which bind a president, only customs and traditions. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #9
You can't make a deal with someone who Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #2
Yes there would have to be a serious consequence for failure to comply. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #10
So does his fan base. They have zilch notion of diplomacy and damned little concept of following allegorical oracle Aug 2022 #14
I live in a red state myself, and I know people Haggard Celine Aug 2022 #15
Couldn't agree more. Have a .22 rifle, but am afraid I'll have to break down and buy a handgun. nt allegorical oracle Aug 2022 #16
Him not running for president again would be a hell of a bargain. Sneederbunk Aug 2022 #3
Yes. If he would agree not to seek office and a gag order, that would be progress. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #11
While I think it is the most likely next step, I agree with you. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #7
I wonder if he would comply if it meant keeping Don Jr and Ivanka out of jail? Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #8
He will never take a deal bob4460 Aug 2022 #12
A plea requires some admission of guilt... he'd NEVER do that MissMillie Aug 2022 #13
A plea agreement should start something like this; Chainfire Aug 2022 #17

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
1. And he can't go to a prison obviously
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 01:05 PM
Aug 2022

And he can’t go to a prison obviously, prosecution can’t use the evidence that they have against him because of how top-secret it is.

Our legal system just wasn’t prepared for having to incarcerate a former president for being a no good fucking traitor.

Justice matters.

(9,790 posts)
4. DoJ is focusing on the Obstruction of Justice for months and months.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 01:23 PM
Aug 2022

“probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found”

In the Affidavit. They probably work on flipping a lawyer these days.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
5. And I have been saying since day one of Barr Attorney General
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 01:38 PM
Aug 2022

And I have been seen since day one of Barr being Attorney General has to be indicted for massive amounts of obstruction of justice. How he wasn’t indicted after the Reagan stuff I don’t know.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
9. Yes there seem to be no laws which bind a president, only customs and traditions.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 02:17 PM
Aug 2022

If the president has no moral compass he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Haggard Celine

(17,822 posts)
2. You can't make a deal with someone who
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 01:08 PM
Aug 2022

has no sense of honor or integrity. In fact, Trump thinks people with morals are weak. Rules are for the little people, not demigods like himself.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
10. Yes there would have to be a serious consequence for failure to comply.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 02:18 PM
Aug 2022

Otherwise he won't keep any agreements.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
14. So does his fan base. They have zilch notion of diplomacy and damned little concept of following
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 03:28 PM
Aug 2022

laws. It's like f**king Lord of the Flies out here in drumpsterland. If TFG were to get sentenced for his crimes all hell would break loose. Am not exaggerating, based on what I see/hear in my area.

Haggard Celine

(17,822 posts)
15. I live in a red state myself, and I know people
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 03:41 PM
Aug 2022

who are involved in GOP Trumper politics. I think these people would follow Trump to the gates of hell. I know what you mean; we would have unrest in a lot of places if he were taken into custody. But really, there's no way around it. He's going to have to be confined somewhere, even if it's house arrest.

We can't continue to leave him free to stir up shit. He still wants to overthrow the government and make himself king. We're going to have this fight whether we like it or not. The next few months are going to be critical. I think more evidence will come out, which will enrage the Trumpers and then we'll have the elections and we're going to have arguments over whether there was fraud or not. These are dangerous times.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
16. Couldn't agree more. Have a .22 rifle, but am afraid I'll have to break down and buy a handgun. nt
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 03:54 PM
Aug 2022

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
7. While I think it is the most likely next step, I agree with you.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 02:15 PM
Aug 2022

Trump will not comply with any DOJ agreement.
And he knows the DOJ will never send him to jail.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
8. I wonder if he would comply if it meant keeping Don Jr and Ivanka out of jail?
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 02:16 PM
Aug 2022

If the DOJ promised not to indict the spawn.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
17. A plea agreement should start something like this;
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 05:14 PM
Aug 2022

If you want to continue breathing, you will.....

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