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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHenry Cuellar partners w/ ultra MAGAt Elise Stefanik on Bill to strip away minimum wage & OT
from many workers.That will really drive his voter turnout for the midterms!!
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1552294858840330246.html

It would carve workers out of min wage & OT protections -- not just app-deployed workers -- ANY WORKER whose employer...1/
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8442/text
Decided that they would set schedules using algorithms & incentives instead of providing secure hours WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO PROVIDE A WAGE FLOOR or OVERTIME. 2/
Employers have been trying to get of the minimum wage for a century so they can squeeze more labor out of each human. For workers w/o bargaining power (non-union workers, workers of color, low-wage workers) this bill would make earning a living nearly impossible. 3/
As Uber, DoorDash, and Instacart have already done to their workforce, it would empower employers to force workers to work long and hard to eek out a living. The everyday gamble, insecurity, & stress of gig work would extend beyond these sectors... 4/
And all in the false name of flexibility. We know Uber driving is not flexible like they pretend it is -- there is nothing flexible about making so little that you have to eat, sleep, and work in your car to provide for your family. 5/
This bill is unconscionable. It is an outrage. It would increase economic inequality--especially racialized inequality. We must rise up against this tech-capital driven DYSTOPIA. Workers should have secure, living wages AND real time flexibility. Let's legislate for THAT. 6/END.
Link to tweet


STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO THE INTRODUCTION OF THE WORKER FLEXIBILITY AND CHOICE ACT
https://www.nelp.org/news-releases/statement-in-response-to-the-introduction-of-the-worker-flexibility-and-choice-act/
Following is a statement from Rebecca Dixon, executive director of the National Employment Law Project, on the introduction of the Worker Flexibility and Choice Act (H.R. 8442):
This bill would radically erode fundamental worker protections in the United States to the benefit of big corporations, allowing them to require workers to sign away basic rights as a condition of work. The bill would also establish a second-tier employment class of disproportionately Black and immigrant workers working in arduous and underpaid jobs without minimum labor protections growing poverty and racialized economic inequality.
The bill seeks to codify the false choice between scheduling flexibility and foundational rights. Because the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) is already compatible with worker flexibility, it would be a fatal mistake for Congress to create a carveout for companies that demand worker flexibility agreements of their workforce. Corporations already have the ability to deliver flexibility to workers. Instead, they are using this bill to dramatically degrade the quality of work including the basic requirement that they pay minimum wage and overtime for countless workers across the country.
The National Employment Law Project (NELP) believes that the movement for workers rights can defeat the Coalition for Workforce Innovation with worker organizing and policy innovation that expands labor protections and fixes the flaws in the New Deal and FLSA which left Black and immigrant workers segregated and unprotected.
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msongs
(73,752 posts)NigelTufnel
(4 posts)so this could just as easily be used by Republicans to paint Democrats as anti-worker. At minimum, it blurs the line between the parties on the issue of labor.
This is the same "pro-life" Cuellar that Pelosi and Clyburn supported and campaigned for immediately AFTER the overturning of Roe (talk about sending mixed messages...sheesh). Cuellar ended up beating Jessica Cisneros by just 289 votes.
I'm an hourly wage worker, so this wage stuff actually impacts me, and I'm old enough to remember when Democrats stood for working people, and Republicans stood for owners and upper management.
I've lurked here for years but never registered or posted a reply until reading this article. I understand that this may be my last post, as it is critical of certain Democrats. But if I get booted from DU for speaking out against those who hurt workers and those who enable them, I'm ok with that.
srose58089
(220 posts)Maybe I will also be booted
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)The rule is not to bash or smear Democrats. I think that a Democratic representative sponsoring a bill that depresses workers' wages is a bad thing. Cuellar deserves criticism for that. Him being a Democrat in a reddish district is strategically important for House Democrats, but I agree that it isn't a good situation.
The bill will likely die in the House.
NigelTufnel
(4 posts)But Biden beat Trump in the district ( TX-28th) by over 4 points, so I'm not sure how it's a "reddish district." Unless of course, it's because Cuellar himself is reddish. But as long as Cuellar keeps a progressive out, which he just barely did (with the help of Pelosi and Clyburn), I suppose he's doing his job, even if it means opposing a woman's right to choose and pushing an anti-worker agenda.
And it's all good anyway because the bill will die, so no harm, no foul, i suppose. But still, I can't help thinking how nice it would be if Cuellar were fighting FOR women's reproductive rights and FOR improvements for hourly workers, but hey, that's just me.
RocRizzo55
(980 posts)Get Stefanik out of office. FYI, Thats Gillibrands old seat. It could flip if things like this are communicated to voters.
rpannier
(24,924 posts)It's been reconfigured to a much stronger red
She's popular with the Magat crowd
whathehell
(30,468 posts)she'll becoming a lot LESS popular....American Labor will NEVER stand for that.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)Her district favors the Republican candidate. I would imagine that most of her supporters watch Fox and other right wing media. They will never hear about the bill and if they do, it will be lies about how the Democrats are depressing wages because of regulations and taxes.
American Labor, used to be a powerful force when Unions were more prevalent. Nowadays, Corporations have successfully siloed workers into individual units and we are all competing to be able to work.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)too little credit.
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)I know what we can do. Problem is, like I said, that her district is + Republican. The percentage of Union workers in the US labor force right now is a little over 10%. While we have won major victories for all worker over the years, the rate of Union representation has been cut in half since the 1980's when over 20% of the labor force was Unionized.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)and my dad was an organizer back in the 40's and 50''s,
so.I'm quite familiar with the history..That said, I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.
AZLD4Candidate
(6,780 posts)Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)That was Bill Owens' - moderate Democrat - old seat. When he retired, he chose Aaron Woolf to succeed him. I went to the local meetup to see and hear him, liked him a lot. But Stefanik won that first election and she's gotten dramatically worse ever since - despite all the protests in my neck-of-the-woods from her very first day
SergeStorms
(20,586 posts)in 2020, but that's a rural district with a lot of red voters in small towns. I donated heavily to get her elected, but it wasn't meant to be.
Then there were allegations of misspent campaign donations and she fell off my radar screen. I don't even know if there's a Democratic candidate for Stefanik's seat this year. I haven't heard anything about it.
Stefanik 💩 has to go.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)I was aware of three Democratic challengers this time around who have stepped up - one has dropped out, but at least 2 remain. I made my choice, decided to support Matthew Putorti who is actually from the district. The primary was supposed to be June 28th, but there still hadn't been a decision on redrawing the district, this has been ongoing. So the only primary candidates back in June were for governor and lieutenant governor.
So the Congressional primary has been rescheduled for August 23rd, two candidates remaining - attorney Matthew Putorti from Whitehall is still in and I saw a campaign ad from the other candidate, Matt Castelli, tonight. I don't know much about him yet, his biography says he grew up in Poughkeepsie, previously worked for the CIA and moved to Saratoga a year ago.
SergeStorms
(20,586 posts)Nice to know we're still getting some quality candidates up there. Let's hope your choice, Putorti, prevails.
Tedra Cobb disappointed me with supposed spending violations in her PAC, and not supporting New York Democrats. Oh well, all water under the bridge.
Keep them straightened out over on the east side of the state, OK? 😉 Nothing exceptionally exciting going on over here on the western front. All of the political crooks have already been caught over here. They're taking a break for awhile.
Take care my friend.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)Tedra Cobb was from a part of the state I've never been. Of course, my all time favorite was Scott Murphy - who I worked for - not just a brilliant guy with some terrific ideas (he equated repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" to Truman desegregating the military), not to mention that he was local enough that he spent time (along with his entire family) at campaign headquarters most days. I still pass his house in my travels most days. *sigh*
Karma13612
(4,981 posts)Politics maybe?
Bill Owens had NY-21 before She Lies Stefanik.
As far as the seat flipping, nope. She has a lock on the Magats. Tons of Redneck Trump flags and poverty and drugs and low info voters in the belly of her district. In Red St Lawrence county, they LOVE her, or just blindly vote Party line. And she has Ft Drum. She lost Watertown on the 2nd redraw, but kept her military Ace in the Hole.
I HOPE we can flip it with voting from the rest of her district but I highly doubt it.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)With the help of the Clintons. President Clinton came to the district to campaign for her. I was there to see and hear him speak, and he is a brilliant speaker, no surprise.
And when President Obama chose Senator (Hillary) Clinton as Secretary of State, Governor Paterson chose Rep. Gillibrand to replace her as senator. There was a Special Election in 2009 and I worked on the campaigns for her successor, Scott Murphy - liked him tremendously and he was local for me. He won in 2009, but then lost in 2010.
But then we got redistricted in 2013 and had Bill Owens, a moderate Democrat from Plattsburgh. But when he retired in 2015, his chosen successor, Aaron Woolf (who I made GOTV calls for, only met him once, but I liked what he had to say) lost to Stefanik. And we've been stuck with her ever since, despite the protests at her local headquarters from her first day in office.
SunSeeker
(58,278 posts)The workers must be flexible, they have no choice; it's starvation wages, take it or leave it.
AllyCat
(18,840 posts)WTH Cuellar?
ananda
(35,140 posts)I was so hoping Cuellar would go down.
NigelTufnel
(4 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)we can keep the House...Jessica Cisneros is a great progressive but she would have little chance in this red Texas district. This is why leadership supported Cuellar...we need the seat. And it will still be hard. But at least we have a shot. We need to hold the House or it is game over for any policy going forward.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)ignoring local conditions and populations just to smear other Democrats. If anyone has driven through vast parts of Texas, you see the types of employers that are routinely misrepresented by this type of hype. They are small restaurant owners that are probably family run and cant afford much in wages, small and struggling business owners, small shop owners. Not everyone needs the bogus misinformation campaigns about corporations. Cuellars comments about the squad seem to reflect that, and Im being polite.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)DNC that we ever had. In red or purple states, you can't always run progressives...but sometimes you can...look at PA. That is amazing! You have to know your state and your candidate.
Novara
(6,115 posts)Good luck with that.
The GOP expressly started sucking up to the working class bubbas years ago and that's where a solid portion of their support comes from because they are also generally racists, which is a GOP platform. Stripping working class people of their wages is a good strategy?
gab13by13
(32,318 posts)someone may alert on you. I couldn't even complain about Democrats spending money to get Mastriano the nomination in Pa.
Celerity
(54,405 posts)strips away minimum wage and OT for many workers. The other co-sponsor, Michelle Steele, is a RW Rethug as well.
All those are simply reporting facts.
Also, there is no chance that the majority of Democratic voters in his district (which is now a tad more Blue than it was before, and is a district that has NEVER elected a Rethug in its entire history) support doing away with minimum wage and OT pay for a shedload of workers, so Cuellar doing this surely does not help him (or most other Dem districts) with midterm turnout.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)Bettie
(19,702 posts)who supports the party and the platform....except for, um, apparently all of it.
Well, it will be entertaining to see his fans come and tell us how this is totally cool and the very best thing he could possibly have done.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)the district and we need to hold the House. I don't like Cuellar but he is better than Gop because he helps with the majority.
Hotler
(13,747 posts)live love laugh
(16,383 posts)dalton99a
(94,109 posts)just like the two very famous senators
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)And who is to say that the employers have to pay the workers at all? Give them food and shelter and put a fence around the workers to protect them...
Bettie
(19,702 posts)that way, they can buy what they need and pay their rent on their company owned house (or bed in a barracks) with company money.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Legislate us back to 1947.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)😡
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)She knows the score.
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)They got their wish, I guess.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)Republicans have made an art form out of using positive words to describe really awful legislation. "Right to work" is one of their favorites. They put pretty labels on their poisons.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)Because that doesnt sound very progressive at all.
It seems that some politicians, even those that live there, have Texas figured out.
Autumn
(48,961 posts)USA conservative group ran ads on this in 2016 and 2018. In 1998, the House approved a compact struck between Texas, Vermont and Maine that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump low-level nuclear waste in Texas. 107 Democrat supported that bill and 1 Independent, Bernie Sanders. Hoyer, Sheila Jackson-Lee from Texas and James Clyburn also voted yes on that bill.
The claim accurately describes Sanders role in leading the legislative effort. But it gives the false impression that the waste was dumped in the community. It never happened.
Never happened.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/13/facebook-posts/sanders-backed-waste-dump-plan-texas-didnt-happen/#sources
Hennery Cuellar was first elected in 2005 but had he been in office in 1998 I think he may have voted for it (IMO) seeing his record but we will never know since he wasn't in office to campaign for it.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)smilies?
that it never happened doesnt change what Sanders did.
and I knew someone would show up with this link trying to distract from the very non-progressive action of dumping waste in a poor Latino Texas community and now I see who did.
Lets face it, Cuellars main political crime is that he beat the revolution.
Autumn
(48,961 posts)Cuellar really hasn't beat anything yet, unless you count his anti abortion stance that is winning . Those anti choice people seem to be making great strides with their agenda thanks to the corrupt SC and their overturning women's right to healthcare. But it's my opinion that no Democrats should put forth a bill that strips away minimum wage and overtime from American workers. It's just the wrong thing to do.
Im not too fond of republican Turning Point USA's 2016 and other dark pacs more recent 2020 false and misleading ads so when I see their nonsense posted I always try to point out the facts as FactCheck.org and Snopes do. Bernie didn't do it by himself and it NEVER fucking happened.
I put my little emoticons where ever they fit.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/13/facebook-posts/sanders-backed-waste-dump-plan-texas-didnt-happen/#sources
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2020/02/19/the-dem-ad-campaign-aimed-at-taking-down-bernie-488357
Nixie
(17,984 posts)candidate, though. And the pattern is established in how Democrats who beat the revolution are attacked. So in that regard, none of the other Democrats you are trying to smear with mentioning dumping Vermonts waste in a poor Latino town are connected with the revolution. Its just a predictable distraction. But you know that.
Edit: the corrupt SC didnt have to happen if folks voted for the Democrat.
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Autumn
(48,961 posts)Pro life politicians are nothing more than forced birth politicians, and when you add anti worker and anti minimum wage which is already not a living wage, that is something I can never support. Lucky for me I don't live in Texas.
The SC was corrupt back in 2000 when they stopped the count that Gore actually won, and appointed it to Bush. When it was all said and done voters in both of those election voted for the Democrat.
That negates your last sentence.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,697 posts)What the fuck is his problem?
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)If we hold and maybe even expand the House a bit...he helps with the majority. I would remind you that Tom Perrillo who voted for pro-life stuff in the ACA ran for governor and was endorsed by Sen. Sanders. Heath Mello was also endorsed by Sanders and Turner...he was pro-life and sponsored/voted for anti-choice laws in the legislature. We make deals. We do what is needed to win elections.