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Celerity

(54,405 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 04:07 AM Jul 2022

Henry Cuellar partners w/ ultra MAGAt Elise Stefanik on Bill to strip away minimum wage & OT

from many workers.

That will really drive his voter turnout for the midterms!!




https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1552294858840330246.html



TERRIFYING: The text of @RepCuellar's bill the Workplace Flexibility & Choice Act is available.

It would carve workers out of min wage & OT protections -- not just app-deployed workers -- ANY WORKER whose employer...
1/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8442/text

Decided that they would set schedules using algorithms & incentives instead of providing secure hours WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO PROVIDE A WAGE FLOOR or OVERTIME. 2/

Employers have been trying to get of the minimum wage for a century so they can squeeze more labor out of each human. For workers w/o bargaining power (non-union workers, workers of color, low-wage workers) this bill would make earning a living nearly impossible. 3/

As Uber, DoorDash, and Instacart have already done to their workforce, it would empower employers to force workers to work long and hard to eek out a living. The everyday gamble, insecurity, & stress of gig work would extend beyond these sectors... 4/

And all in the false name of flexibility. We know Uber driving is not flexible like they pretend it is -- there is nothing flexible about making so little that you have to eat, sleep, and work in your car to provide for your family. 5/

This bill is unconscionable. It is an outrage. It would increase economic inequality--especially racialized inequality. We must rise up against this tech-capital driven DYSTOPIA. Workers should have secure, living wages AND real time flexibility. Let's legislate for THAT. 6/END.











STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO THE INTRODUCTION OF THE WORKER FLEXIBILITY AND CHOICE ACT

https://www.nelp.org/news-releases/statement-in-response-to-the-introduction-of-the-worker-flexibility-and-choice-act/

Following is a statement from Rebecca Dixon, executive director of the National Employment Law Project, on the introduction of the Worker Flexibility and Choice Act (H.R. 8442):

Earlier this week, backed by the corporate lobby group the Coalition for Workforce Innovation (CWI), which was established to fight against growing workers’ movements, Congresswoman Elise Stefanik (R-NY), Congresswoman Michelle Steel (R-CA), and Congressman Henry Cuellar (D-TX) introduced the deceptively named Worker Flexibility and Choice Act (WFCA).

This bill would radically erode fundamental worker protections in the United States to the benefit of big corporations, allowing them to require workers to sign away basic rights as a condition of work. The bill would also establish a second-tier employment class of disproportionately Black and immigrant workers working in arduous and underpaid jobs without minimum labor protections — growing poverty and racialized economic inequality.

The bill seeks to codify the false choice between scheduling flexibility and foundational rights. Because the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) is already compatible with worker flexibility, it would be a fatal mistake for Congress to create a carveout for companies that demand “worker flexibility agreements” of their workforce. Corporations already have the ability to deliver flexibility to workers. Instead, they are using this bill to dramatically degrade the quality of work – including the basic requirement that they pay minimum wage and overtime for countless workers across the country.

The National Employment Law Project (NELP) believes that the movement for workers’ rights can defeat the Coalition for Workforce Innovation with worker organizing and policy innovation that expands labor protections and fixes the flaws in the New Deal and FLSA which left Black and immigrant workers segregated and unprotected.

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Henry Cuellar partners w/ ultra MAGAt Elise Stefanik on Bill to strip away minimum wage & OT (Original Post) Celerity Jul 2022 OP
potentially useful information if it can be promoted effectively against repubs nt msongs Jul 2022 #1
But Cuellar, the bill's sponsor, is a Democrat, NigelTufnel Jul 2022 #16
Agree with your post srose58089 Jul 2022 #26
DU rules permit valid criticism and discussion. Caliman73 Jul 2022 #38
"Him being a Democrat in a reddish district..." NigelTufnel Jul 2022 #54
Maybe it can help RocRizzo55 Jul 2022 #2
Probably not rpannier Jul 2022 #3
When the Magats learn she's taking their Overtime.. whathehell Jul 2022 #7
I think you are giving the people in her district too much credit. Caliman73 Jul 2022 #40
Maybe, but I think you may be unions and their workers whathehell Jul 2022 #41
Never. I have been a Union worker for 23 years. Caliman73 Jul 2022 #42
Yes, I've been a union worker as well. whathehell Jul 2022 #51
Northern New York? Good luck. That's the Fresno of New York. AZLD4Candidate Jul 2022 #4
Gillibrand was District 20, we got redistricted in 2013, joined with the North Country in District 21 Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #6
I thought Tedra Cobb could defeat her.... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #9
That Democratic primary had at least 10 candidates at one point and Tedra Cobb got national attention Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #24
Thanks for all that, Rhiannon. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #27
Yeah, I remember voting for another (of the many) candidates in the primary Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #28
Not sure about Gillibrand unless you mean state Karma13612 Jul 2022 #13
Gillibrand was District 20, she defeated long time Republican incumbent John Sweeney in 2006 Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #25
What cruel doublespeak, "Worker Flexibility and Choice." SunSeeker Jul 2022 #5
A democrat signed onto this? AllyCat Jul 2022 #8
i voted for Cisneros It was close ananda Jul 2022 #10
Only 289 votes separated them. Clyburn and Pelosi put Cuellar over the top. NigelTufnel Jul 2022 #15
They stabbed the base in the back with their endorsements. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #30
And? The district is even more conservative then before and we need a warm body in that seat so Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #44
Exactly. It's just tiresome that the revolution insists on Nixie Jul 2022 #45
You have to get people to run who can win. Howard Dean was the most successful one at Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #46
yeah, people LOVE it when they get stripped of their pay Novara Jul 2022 #11
Be careful bashing Cuellar gab13by13 Jul 2022 #12
How is this bashing? Cuellar sponsored the bill, Stefanik, a mega MAGAt, is a co-sponsor, & the bill Celerity Jul 2022 #21
I am not saying it is bashing...thank God it has no shot at becoming law... Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #47
But, I was told that Cuellar is a good Democrat Bettie Jul 2022 #14
No, everyone knows that Cuellar is anti-choice and conservative what is said is that he can win Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #48
Cocksuckers! nt Hotler Jul 2022 #17
✔️ live love laugh Jul 2022 #19
He has no choice in the matter dalton99a Jul 2022 #18
Next would be the seven day work week and a return of child labor. Chainfire Jul 2022 #20
Pay them in company scrip Bettie Jul 2022 #53
Let us return to the coal mines of eastern Kentucky and West Virginia Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #22
K&R for, CUELLAR's way of thanking Nancy for her endorsement UTUSN Jul 2022 #23
Big mistake on her part to endorse this asswipe. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #29
Not her "mistake" - he's been embedded for years, she's painted into a corner UTUSN Jul 2022 #32
Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn campaigned for him *in the primary* 867-5309. Jul 2022 #31
Words like "Workplace flexibility" and "choice" PatSeg Jul 2022 #33
Has Cuellar also campaigned to accept nuclear waste from Vermont? Nixie Jul 2022 #34
Sanders backed a waste-dump plan in Texas that never happened. The right-leaning Turning Point Autumn Jul 2022 #35
He backed it, though. Is this where I put all my little rolling Nixie Jul 2022 #36
You know who else co sponsored that bill and backed it? Sheila Jackson Lee Autumn Jul 2022 #37
So many distractions! No one cared about Cuellar until he beat the revolution's Nixie Jul 2022 #43
I was not a fan before Pelosi and Clyburn endorsed him. I don't like "pro life" politicians. Autumn Jul 2022 #52
Saw that earlier this morning Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #39
He is in a really conservative district...I expect that is his problem. But one guy can do nothing. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #49
This would decimate the restaurant and admin professional industries. Initech Jul 2022 #50

NigelTufnel

(4 posts)
16. But Cuellar, the bill's sponsor, is a Democrat,
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jul 2022

so this could just as easily be used by Republicans to paint Democrats as anti-worker. At minimum, it blurs the line between the parties on the issue of labor.

This is the same "pro-life" Cuellar that Pelosi and Clyburn supported and campaigned for immediately AFTER the overturning of Roe (talk about sending mixed messages...sheesh). Cuellar ended up beating Jessica Cisneros by just 289 votes.

I'm an hourly wage worker, so this wage stuff actually impacts me, and I'm old enough to remember when Democrats stood for working people, and Republicans stood for owners and upper management.

I've lurked here for years but never registered or posted a reply until reading this article. I understand that this may be my last post, as it is critical of certain Democrats. But if I get booted from DU for speaking out against those who hurt workers and those who enable them, I'm ok with that.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
38. DU rules permit valid criticism and discussion.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:27 PM
Jul 2022

The rule is not to bash or smear Democrats. I think that a Democratic representative sponsoring a bill that depresses workers' wages is a bad thing. Cuellar deserves criticism for that. Him being a Democrat in a reddish district is strategically important for House Democrats, but I agree that it isn't a good situation.

The bill will likely die in the House.

NigelTufnel

(4 posts)
54. "Him being a Democrat in a reddish district..."
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 03:01 AM
Jul 2022

But Biden beat Trump in the district ( TX-28th) by over 4 points, so I'm not sure how it's a "reddish district." Unless of course, it's because Cuellar himself is reddish. But as long as Cuellar keeps a progressive out, which he just barely did (with the help of Pelosi and Clyburn), I suppose he's doing his job, even if it means opposing a woman's right to choose and pushing an anti-worker agenda.

And it's all good anyway because the bill will die, so no harm, no foul, i suppose. But still, I can't help thinking how nice it would be if Cuellar were fighting FOR women's reproductive rights and FOR improvements for hourly workers, but hey, that's just me.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
2. Maybe it can help
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:14 AM
Jul 2022

Get Stefanik out of office. FYI, That’s Gillibrand’s old seat. It could flip if things like this are communicated to voters.

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
3. Probably not
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:29 AM
Jul 2022

It's been reconfigured to a much stronger red
She's popular with the Magat crowd

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
7. When the Magats learn she's taking their Overtime..
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:30 AM
Jul 2022

she'll becoming a lot LESS popular....American Labor will NEVER stand for that.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
40. I think you are giving the people in her district too much credit.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:33 PM
Jul 2022

Her district favors the Republican candidate. I would imagine that most of her supporters watch Fox and other right wing media. They will never hear about the bill and if they do, it will be lies about how the Democrats are depressing wages because of regulations and taxes.

American Labor, used to be a powerful force when Unions were more prevalent. Nowadays, Corporations have successfully siloed workers into individual units and we are all competing to be able to work.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
42. Never. I have been a Union worker for 23 years.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jul 2022

I know what we can do. Problem is, like I said, that her district is + Republican. The percentage of Union workers in the US labor force right now is a little over 10%. While we have won major victories for all worker over the years, the rate of Union representation has been cut in half since the 1980's when over 20% of the labor force was Unionized.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
51. Yes, I've been a union worker as well.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:51 PM
Jul 2022

and my dad was an organizer back in the 40's and 50''s,
so.I'm quite familiar with the history..That said, I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
6. Gillibrand was District 20, we got redistricted in 2013, joined with the North Country in District 21
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:57 AM
Jul 2022

That was Bill Owens' - moderate Democrat - old seat. When he retired, he chose Aaron Woolf to succeed him. I went to the local meetup to see and hear him, liked him a lot. But Stefanik won that first election and she's gotten dramatically worse ever since - despite all the protests in my neck-of-the-woods from her very first day

SergeStorms

(20,586 posts)
9. I thought Tedra Cobb could defeat her....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:17 AM
Jul 2022

in 2020, but that's a rural district with a lot of red voters in small towns. I donated heavily to get her elected, but it wasn't meant to be.

Then there were allegations of misspent campaign donations and she fell off my radar screen. I don't even know if there's a Democratic candidate for Stefanik's seat this year. I haven't heard anything about it.

Stefanik 💩 has to go.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
24. That Democratic primary had at least 10 candidates at one point and Tedra Cobb got national attention
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:59 PM
Jul 2022

I was aware of three Democratic challengers this time around who have stepped up - one has dropped out, but at least 2 remain. I made my choice, decided to support Matthew Putorti who is actually from the district. The primary was supposed to be June 28th, but there still hadn't been a decision on redrawing the district, this has been ongoing. So the only primary candidates back in June were for governor and lieutenant governor.

So the Congressional primary has been rescheduled for August 23rd, two candidates remaining - attorney Matthew Putorti from Whitehall is still in and I saw a campaign ad from the other candidate, Matt Castelli, tonight. I don't know much about him yet, his biography says he grew up in Poughkeepsie, previously worked for the CIA and moved to Saratoga a year ago.

SergeStorms

(20,586 posts)
27. Thanks for all that, Rhiannon.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:00 AM
Jul 2022

Nice to know we're still getting some quality candidates up there. Let's hope your choice, Putorti, prevails.

Tedra Cobb disappointed me with supposed spending violations in her PAC, and not supporting New York Democrats. Oh well, all water under the bridge.

Keep them straightened out over on the east side of the state, OK? 😉 Nothing exceptionally exciting going on over here on the western front. All of the political crooks have already been caught over here. They're taking a break for awhile.

Take care my friend.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
28. Yeah, I remember voting for another (of the many) candidates in the primary
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:07 AM
Jul 2022

Tedra Cobb was from a part of the state I've never been. Of course, my all time favorite was Scott Murphy - who I worked for - not just a brilliant guy with some terrific ideas (he equated repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" to Truman desegregating the military), not to mention that he was local enough that he spent time (along with his entire family) at campaign headquarters most days. I still pass his house in my travels most days. *sigh*

Karma13612

(4,981 posts)
13. Not sure about Gillibrand unless you mean state
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:00 AM
Jul 2022

Politics maybe?

Bill Owens had NY-21 before ‘She Lies’ Stefanik.

As far as the seat flipping, nope. She has a lock on the Magats. Tons of Redneck Trump flags and poverty and drugs and low info voters in the belly of her district. In Red St Lawrence county, they LOVE her, or just blindly vote Party line. And she has Ft Drum. She lost Watertown on the 2nd redraw, but kept her military Ace in the Hole.

I HOPE we can flip it with voting from the rest of her district but I highly doubt it.

Rhiannon12866

(255,525 posts)
25. Gillibrand was District 20, she defeated long time Republican incumbent John Sweeney in 2006
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:17 AM
Jul 2022

With the help of the Clintons. President Clinton came to the district to campaign for her. I was there to see and hear him speak, and he is a brilliant speaker, no surprise.

And when President Obama chose Senator (Hillary) Clinton as Secretary of State, Governor Paterson chose Rep. Gillibrand to replace her as senator. There was a Special Election in 2009 and I worked on the campaigns for her successor, Scott Murphy - liked him tremendously and he was local for me. He won in 2009, but then lost in 2010.

But then we got redistricted in 2013 and had Bill Owens, a moderate Democrat from Plattsburgh. But when he retired in 2015, his chosen successor, Aaron Woolf (who I made GOTV calls for, only met him once, but I liked what he had to say) lost to Stefanik. And we've been stuck with her ever since, despite the protests at her local headquarters from her first day in office.


SunSeeker

(58,278 posts)
5. What cruel doublespeak, "Worker Flexibility and Choice."
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 05:37 AM
Jul 2022

The workers must be flexible, they have no choice; it's starvation wages, take it or leave it.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
44. And? The district is even more conservative then before and we need a warm body in that seat so
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:55 PM
Jul 2022

we can keep the House...Jessica Cisneros is a great progressive but she would have little chance in this red Texas district. This is why leadership supported Cuellar...we need the seat. And it will still be hard. But at least we have a shot. We need to hold the House or it is game over for any policy going forward.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
45. Exactly. It's just tiresome that the revolution insists on
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 02:54 PM
Jul 2022

ignoring local conditions and populations just to smear other Democrats. If anyone has driven through vast parts of Texas, you see the types of “employers” that are routinely misrepresented by this type of hype. They are small restaurant owners that are probably family run and can’t afford much in wages, small and struggling business owners, small shop owners. Not everyone needs the bogus misinformation campaigns about “corporations.” Cuellar’s comments about the squad seem to reflect that, and I’m being polite.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
46. You have to get people to run who can win. Howard Dean was the most successful one at
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 02:59 PM
Jul 2022

DNC that we ever had. In red or purple states, you can't always run progressives...but sometimes you can...look at PA. That is amazing! You have to know your state and your candidate.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
11. yeah, people LOVE it when they get stripped of their pay
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:44 AM
Jul 2022

Good luck with that.

The GOP expressly started sucking up to the working class bubbas years ago and that's where a solid portion of their support comes from because they are also generally racists, which is a GOP platform. Stripping working class people of their wages is a good strategy?

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
12. Be careful bashing Cuellar
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:52 AM
Jul 2022

someone may alert on you. I couldn't even complain about Democrats spending money to get Mastriano the nomination in Pa.

Celerity

(54,405 posts)
21. How is this bashing? Cuellar sponsored the bill, Stefanik, a mega MAGAt, is a co-sponsor, & the bill
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:40 AM
Jul 2022

strips away minimum wage and OT for many workers. The other co-sponsor, Michelle Steele, is a RW Rethug as well.

All those are simply reporting facts.

Also, there is no chance that the majority of Democratic voters in his district (which is now a tad more Blue than it was before, and is a district that has NEVER elected a Rethug in its entire history) support doing away with minimum wage and OT pay for a shedload of workers, so Cuellar doing this surely does not help him (or most other Dem districts) with midterm turnout.

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
14. But, I was told that Cuellar is a good Democrat
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:12 AM
Jul 2022

who supports the party and the platform....except for, um, apparently all of it.

Well, it will be entertaining to see his fans come and tell us how this is totally cool and the very best thing he could possibly have done.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
48. No, everyone knows that Cuellar is anti-choice and conservative what is said is that he can win
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:07 PM
Jul 2022

the district and we need to hold the House. I don't like Cuellar but he is better than Gop because he helps with the majority.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
20. Next would be the seven day work week and a return of child labor.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jul 2022

And who is to say that the employers have to pay the workers at all? Give them food and shelter and put a fence around the workers to protect them...

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
53. Pay them in company scrip
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 04:36 PM
Jul 2022

that way, they can buy what they need and pay their rent on their company owned house (or bed in a barracks) with company money.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
22. Let us return to the coal mines of eastern Kentucky and West Virginia
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jul 2022

Legislate us back to 1947.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
32. Not her "mistake" - he's been embedded for years, she's painted into a corner
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 09:58 AM
Jul 2022

She knows the score.






 

867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
31. Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn campaigned for him *in the primary*
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 08:35 AM
Jul 2022

They got their wish, I guess.

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
33. Words like "Workplace flexibility" and "choice"
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jul 2022

Republicans have made an art form out of using positive words to describe really awful legislation. "Right to work" is one of their favorites. They put pretty labels on their poisons.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
34. Has Cuellar also campaigned to accept nuclear waste from Vermont?
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jul 2022

Because that doesn’t sound very progressive at all.

It seems that some politicians, even those that live there, have Texas figured out.

Autumn

(48,961 posts)
35. Sanders backed a waste-dump plan in Texas that never happened. The right-leaning Turning Point
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:48 AM
Jul 2022

USA conservative group ran ads on this in 2016 and 2018. In 1998, the House approved a compact struck between Texas, Vermont and Maine that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump low-level nuclear waste in Texas. 107 Democrat supported that bill and 1 Independent, Bernie Sanders. Hoyer, Sheila Jackson-Lee from Texas and James Clyburn also voted yes on that bill.

The claim accurately describes Sanders’ role in leading the legislative effort. But it gives the false impression that the waste was dumped in the community. It never happened. Never happened.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/13/facebook-posts/sanders-backed-waste-dump-plan-texas-didnt-happen/#sources

Hennery Cuellar was first elected in 2005 but had he been in office in 1998 I think he may have voted for it (IMO) seeing his record but we will never know since he wasn't in office to campaign for it.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
36. He backed it, though. Is this where I put all my little rolling
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jul 2022

smilies? that it never happened doesn’t change what Sanders did. and I knew someone would show up with this link trying to distract from the very non-progressive action of dumping waste in a poor Latino Texas community and now I see who did.

Let’s face it, Cuellar’s main political crime is that he beat the revolution.

Autumn

(48,961 posts)
37. You know who else co sponsored that bill and backed it? Sheila Jackson Lee
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jul 2022

Cuellar really hasn't beat anything yet, unless you count his anti abortion stance that is winning . Those anti choice people seem to be making great strides with their agenda thanks to the corrupt SC and their overturning women's right to healthcare. But it's my opinion that no Democrats should put forth a bill that strips away minimum wage and overtime from American workers. It's just the wrong thing to do.

Im not too fond of republican Turning Point USA's 2016 and other dark pacs more recent 2020 false and misleading ads so when I see their nonsense posted I always try to point out the facts as FactCheck.org and Snopes do. Bernie didn't do it by himself and it NEVER fucking happened.

I put my little emoticons where ever they fit.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/13/facebook-posts/sanders-backed-waste-dump-plan-texas-didnt-happen/#sources

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2020/02/19/the-dem-ad-campaign-aimed-at-taking-down-bernie-488357

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
43. So many distractions! No one cared about Cuellar until he beat the revolution's
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:28 PM
Jul 2022

candidate, though. And the pattern is established in how Democrats who beat the revolution are attacked. So in that regard, none of the other Democrats you are trying to smear with mentioning dumping Vermont’s waste in a poor Latino town are connected with the revolution. It’s just a predictable distraction. But you know that.

Edit: the “corrupt” SC didn’t have to happen if folks voted for the Democrat.


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Autumn

(48,961 posts)
52. I was not a fan before Pelosi and Clyburn endorsed him. I don't like "pro life" politicians.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 04:36 PM
Jul 2022

Pro life politicians are nothing more than forced birth politicians, and when you add anti worker and anti minimum wage which is already not a living wage, that is something I can never support. Lucky for me I don't live in Texas.

The SC was corrupt back in 2000 when they stopped the count that Gore actually won, and appointed it to Bush. When it was all said and done voters in both of those election voted for the Democrat. That negates your last sentence.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
49. He is in a really conservative district...I expect that is his problem. But one guy can do nothing.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 03:16 PM
Jul 2022

If we hold and maybe even expand the House a bit...he helps with the majority. I would remind you that Tom Perrillo who voted for pro-life stuff in the ACA ran for governor and was endorsed by Sen. Sanders. Heath Mello was also endorsed by Sanders and Turner...he was pro-life and sponsored/voted for anti-choice laws in the legislature. We make deals. We do what is needed to win elections.

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