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Celerity

(54,405 posts)
Wed Jul 27, 2022, 11:59 PM Jul 2022

One hurdle down (Manchin) on the BBB, 3 to go: the Senate parliamentarian, Sinema, and Gottheimer's

Problem Solver/Blue Dog crew (who are going to go ballistic as their SALT cap raise is NOT in the deal).

Sinema has said over and over no go for pharma price reform, although the deal does NOT have the tax hikes on the rich and corporations she said NO to.

I also do not trust the parliamentarian tbh. It is madness for one, unelected person to have THAT much power.



https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/schumer-manchin-deal-build-back-better/index.html

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Medicare drug price negotiation provisions remain in the bill

The deal keeps the prescription drug prices changes that Manchin had previously agreed to, including empowering Medicare to negotiate the price of certain costly medications administered in doctors' offices or purchased at the pharmacy. The Health and Human Services secretary would negotiate the prices of 10 drugs in 2026, and another 15 drugs in 2027 and again in 2028. The number would rise to 20 drugs a year for 2029 and beyond. It would also redesign Medicare's Part D drug plans so that seniors and people with disabilities wouldn't pay more than $2,000 a year for medication bought at the pharmacy. And, the deal would require drug companies to pay rebates if they increase their prices in the Medicare and private-insurance markets faster than inflation. Altogether, the drug price provisions would reduce the deficit by $288 billion over a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.



Paying for the bill

To raise revenue, the bill would impose a 15% minimum tax on corporations, which would raise $313 billion over a decade. While details on the current deal remain scant, the House version of the Build Back Better package would have levied the tax on the corporate profits that large companies report to shareholders, not to the Internal Revenue Service. It would have applied to companies with more than $1 billion in profits and yielded a similar revenue-raising figure. The current deal also aims to close the carried interest loophole, which allows investment managers to treat their compensation as capital gains and pay a 20% long-term capital gains tax rate instead of income tax rates of up to 37%. Eliminating this loophole, which would raise $14 billion over a decade, has been a longtime goal of congressional Democrats.

The package also calls for providing more funding to the IRS for tax enforcement, which would raise $124 billion.
Democrats say families making less than $400,000 per year would not be affected, in line with a pledge by Biden. Also, there would be no new taxes on small businesses. Manchin said in a statement that the deal would ensure "that large corporations and the ultra-wealthy pay their fair share in taxes," though it doesn't contain the tax rate hikes on rich Americans and big companies that Democrats initially wanted to include in the budget reconciliation packages before they were shot down by Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.


Notably, Manchin also threw cold water on one of Schumer's priorities -- addressing the $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions, known as SALT, that was part of the GOP tax cut package in 2017 and affects many states in the Northeast and on the West Coast. Many details of the current deal remain to be worked out, which could delay or scuttle it, said Howard Gleckman, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

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Celerity

(54,405 posts)
2. The last time the parliamentarian was overruled was by Nelson Rockefeller in 1975.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 12:34 AM
Jul 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentarian_of_the_United_States_Senate

The role of the parliamentary staff is advisory, and the Presiding Officer may overrule the advice of the parliamentarian. In practice, this is rare; the most recent example of a Vice President (as President of the Senate) overruling the parliamentarian was Nelson Rockefeller in 1975. That ruling was extremely controversial, to such an extent that the leaders of both parties immediately met and agreed that they did not want this precedent to stand, so the next week the Senate altered the rule under consideration via standard procedure.

Phoenix61

(18,828 posts)
5. Ok...considering what McTurtle has pulled since then
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:06 AM
Jul 2022

I don’t see any reason for the Dems to let an advisory decision stand in their way.

Celerity

(54,405 posts)
7. We (not you, I mean Dems) went through multiple times under Biden, and Senate followed the
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:14 AM
Jul 2022

parliamentarian's rulings every time. An example is our pulling of immigration reform from reconciliation. I do not see Harris overruling her at all.


Democrats Dealt a Blow on Immigration Plans

The Senate’s parliamentarian ruled that Democrats’ plan to give 8 million immigrants a path to citizenship could not be achieved through the reconciliation process.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/19/us/politics/immigration-citizenship.html

WASHINGTON — The Senate parliamentarian dealt a major setback on Sunday to Democrats’ plan to use their $3.5 trillion social policy bill to create a path to citizenship for an estimated 8 million undocumented immigrants. Elizabeth MacDonough, the Senate parliamentarian, who serves as the chamber’s arbiter of its own rules, wrote that the “policy changes of this proposal far outweigh the budgetary impact scored to it and it is not appropriate for inclusion in reconciliation,” according to a copy of her decision obtained by The New York Times.

Democrats had been seeking to grant legal status to undocumented people brought to the United States as children, known as Dreamers; immigrants who were granted Temporary Protected Status for humanitarian reasons; close to one million farmworkers; and millions more whom are deemed “essential workers.” Immigration advocates had pushed the plan as their best chance this Congress to improve the lives of millions of immigrants, after attempts to reach a bipartisan deal with Republicans fell apart.

“We are deeply disappointed in this decision but the fight to provide lawful status for immigrants in budget reconciliation continues,” Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the majority leader, said in a statement, adding that Democrats would be meeting with the parliamentarian. “The American people understand that fixing our broken immigration system is a moral and economic imperative.” Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat, and Senator Alex Padilla, Democrat of California, also released a statement saying they had prepared “an alternative proposal for the parliamentarian’s consideration in the coming days.”

Celerity

(54,405 posts)
10. They are not going to overrule the parliamentarian, regardless of technically being able to do so.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 02:48 AM
Jul 2022

You and I may not like it, but that is just the way it is.

MichMan

(17,149 posts)
3. Not understanding the IRS enforcement not applying to people making under $400k?
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 12:59 AM
Jul 2022

Are they really saying that people making under $400k are immune from any IRS audits or penalties?

Celerity

(54,405 posts)
4. No, it means families making less than $400,000 per year would not be affected by the tax hikes.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:03 AM
Jul 2022

MichMan

(17,149 posts)
6. It was written very poorly if that is the case
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:10 AM
Jul 2022

"The package also calls for providing more funding to the IRS for tax enforcement, which would raise $124 billion.
Democrats say families making less than $400,000 per year would not be affected, in line with a pledge by Biden"

Celerity

(54,405 posts)
8. the formatting made it a small paragraph, but even then, it is poorly written, agreed
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 01:17 AM
Jul 2022
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