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Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:21 PM Jul 2022

Can someone tell me why raising the interest rate will help lower inflation?

To those of us with mortgages, who have to buy food, pay insurance. car payments and utilities will suffer. I can't understand why raising interest rates will help any of us. Maybe you know, I can't understand the reasoning.

I'm struggling like so many others. The rise in interest rates will make everything we buy or pay for much more costly. I'm about ready to give up!

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Can someone tell me why raising the interest rate will help lower inflation? (Original Post) Paper Roses Jul 2022 OP
I read somewhere that it was like killing the dog to stop it from barking. barbaraann Jul 2022 #1
Hahaha that is awesome and yeah, pretty accurate. unblock Jul 2022 #6
It cools demand. People don't spend when rates are higher. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #2
As simply put as possible, it slows demand Sympthsical Jul 2022 #3
Broadly, it reduces demand. unblock Jul 2022 #4
I think this John Oliver video explains it pretty well. Blue Dawn Jul 2022 #5
Thanks. Mosby Jul 2022 #24
Not I. By Robert Reich: elleng Jul 2022 #7
Reichs ideas are not politically feasible DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2022 #14
I hear that they may raise it 3/4 of a percent. That's not enough jimfields33 Jul 2022 #22
Price controls ? MichMan Jul 2022 #26
In Theory,... ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #8
Inflation is mostly determined by the money supply on a macro level. Bleacher Creature Jul 2022 #9
It's either that or standing up to the corporations who are price gouging. egduj Jul 2022 #10
Actually, it should be both. Big Blue Marble Jul 2022 #11
and foolish. elleng Jul 2022 #12
It destroys demand by raising the cost of borrowing. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2022 #13
because who will need gas, milk or bread, once interest rates are increased. elleng Jul 2022 #16
It sucks that it happens on Biden's watch genxlib Jul 2022 #15
Those with debt (including mortgage debt) can be helped by inflation Shermann Jul 2022 #17
First the interest rates were lowered at the beginning of the pandemic two years ago. Big Blue Marble Jul 2022 #18
Shrinking the money supply Nululu Jul 2022 #19
Thanks elleng Jul 2022 #20
It cools demand by slowing consumer spending. roamer65 Jul 2022 #21
Financial institutions "need" overnight interest on $2T. BadgerKid Jul 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jul 2022 #25

unblock

(56,198 posts)
6. Hahaha that is awesome and yeah, pretty accurate.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jul 2022

I think it's fine to reduce growth from 7% to 2% or fight inflation. But actually causing a recession to fight inflation, I have a problem with.

In the current environment, raising interest rates while unemployment is super low is fine. But I don't think they should raise rates do much it kills a job market that's finally decent for workers.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
3. As simply put as possible, it slows demand
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:25 PM
Jul 2022

When there's more demand than supply, prices go up.

Increasing rates discourages demand by making borrowing more expensive, so prices come down.

That is the most simplified form of the idea.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
4. Broadly, it reduces demand.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:26 PM
Jul 2022

If it's more expensive to buy a house or car due to rising interest rates, there will be fewer people to push up prices on those items.

And if you're spending more on interest payments, you're spending less on other stuff, reducing upward price pressure on those items.

All of this means less economic activity, i.e., less growth if even recession. That's part of the trade-off for fighting inflation.

Blue Dawn

(970 posts)
5. I think this John Oliver video explains it pretty well.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:28 PM
Jul 2022


I hope it is somewhat helpful. I learned quite a bit from watching it.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
7. Not I. By Robert Reich:
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:30 PM
Jul 2022

This week, the Fed is expected to further raise interest rates to slow the economy. It's predictable, but a big mistake. It may plunge the U.S. into another recession.

The last thing working people need is for the Fed to raise interest rates right now. It would be far better for Congress to stand up to price gougers and profiteers.

The best remedy for the current inflation is a combination of a windfall profits tax, price controls and anti trust enforcement to reduce the pricing power of big corporations -- not higher interest rates that will slow the economy, cost jobs, and reduce wage gains.

https://www.facebook.com/search/posts/?q=Robert%20Reich

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
14. Reichs ideas are not politically feasible
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:47 PM
Jul 2022

Raising interest rates is. And price controls don't have a great track record of working. They tend to cause shortages, which isn't exactly what we need when we already have shortages.

The choices right now is either raise the rates or do nothing and hope inflation goes away on its own. Everything else requires Congress to have the political will to do something, which they currently do not have.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
22. I hear that they may raise it 3/4 of a percent. That's not enough
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:53 PM
Jul 2022

I think it should go closer to two percent which is equalize everything. Interest rates are embarrassingly too low for a long time.

MichMan

(17,152 posts)
26. Price controls ?
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 07:36 PM
Jul 2022

The government determines how much everything should cost and tell companies that's all they can charge?

Doesn't seem very feasible

ProfessorGAC

(76,713 posts)
8. In Theory,...
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:34 PM
Jul 2022

...it reduces consumption thereby causing fewer dollars to chase goods & services.
Since inflation hit energy & food so hard, I don't know that raising rates would have the historically expected effect.
BTW: 78% of mortgages in the US are 15, 25, or 30 year fixed rate so the rate increase won't impact the great majority of those with mortgage payments.
The other 22% will feel some sting.

Now, having to curtail other spending because the house payment went up, still reduces consumption. The Fed, alas, doesn't make their decisions based on compassion for consumers. For them, inflation hurts everybody, raising rates hurts some. They'll take the option of hurting fewer without compunction.

Bleacher Creature

(11,504 posts)
9. Inflation is mostly determined by the money supply on a macro level.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:39 PM
Jul 2022

Increasing interest rates discourages borrowing and favors saving available cash, which brings down the money supply. It obviously hurts individuals and families, which is what we saw in the late 70s and early 80s, but the point is to address the issue at the macro level.

egduj

(881 posts)
10. It's either that or standing up to the corporations who are price gouging.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:42 PM
Jul 2022

Raising rates is easier.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
11. Actually, it should be both.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:44 PM
Jul 2022

It is clear that price gouging is occurring. Biden should speak out about it.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
12. and foolish.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:44 PM
Jul 2022

'The best remedy for the current inflation is a combination of a windfall profits tax, price controls and anti trust enforcement to reduce the pricing power of big corporations -- not higher interest rates that will slow the economy, cost jobs, and reduce wage gains.'

https://www.facebook.com/search/posts/?q=Robert%20Reich

elleng

(141,926 posts)
16. because who will need gas, milk or bread, once interest rates are increased.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:01 PM
Jul 2022

Sorry, I gotta get out of this discussion, as it's RIDICULOUS!

I'll repeat this once more, from Robert Reich:

This week, the Fed is expected to further raise interest rates to slow the economy. It's predictable, but a big mistake. It may plunge the U.S. into another recession.

The last thing working people need is for the Fed to raise interest rates right now. It would be far better for Congress to stand up to price gougers and profiteers.

The best remedy for the current inflation is a combination of a windfall profits tax, price controls and anti trust enforcement to reduce the pricing power of big corporations -- not higher interest rates that will slow the economy, cost jobs, and reduce wage gains.

https://www.facebook.com/search/posts/?q=Robert%20Reich

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
15. It sucks that it happens on Biden's watch
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 05:48 PM
Jul 2022

Because he will unfairly take the blame for the slow down. Of course there are those that will say it is his fault since it is in reaction to "his" inflation but we can likely all agree that would be a BS argument as well.

However, the interest rates have been stupidly low in recent history. It has contributed bubbles in both the stock market and the housing market.

In my opinion, the rates are simply heading back to where they need to be. It is just terrible timing that we get blamed for the inevitable pain that those policies are going to cause.

I may get flamed for this but any prime rate under 5% should be an expansionist tool reserved for getting us out of an economic hole. Running low rates when the economy is going well just over-heats it and results in wild speculation and fluctuations.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
17. Those with debt (including mortgage debt) can be helped by inflation
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jul 2022

If your debt has a fixed interest rate like most mortgages over the past decade, the amount you owe is effectively reduced by the inflation rate every year. If your interest rate is less than the inflation rate, you are coming out ahead.

Those who are truly on a fixed income will suffer. Income sources that adjust for inflation (like Social Security) should keep up. Social Security's COLA adjustments are based on the CPI-W Consumer Price Index, which seems to lag behind the higher inflation rate seniors typically see. So that's not so good.

Big Blue Marble

(5,691 posts)
18. First the interest rates were lowered at the beginning of the pandemic two years ago.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:09 PM
Jul 2022

It was part of the overall stimulation of a flagging economy. The rates are returning to about what they were
in 2019. To continue the rates at the historically level of the last two years would overheat demand and
increase the cost of everything.

It is also important to remember that those who lend the money need to be compensated enough
to provide the funds. If interest rates are too low when inflation is high, the sources of financing will
drive up. Interest is the price of money. And inflation exceeding interest rates makes it a losing investment
for those who fund the loans

And thirdly, some us of who depend on our savings to live, have seen their value shrink at a shocking
rate as we had little or no return the savings we depend on over the last two years. . And this year the loss of
value has increased.

Nululu

(1,116 posts)
19. Shrinking the money supply
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jul 2022

The PTB see inflation as caused by too much money chasing too few goods. Raising interest rate decreases borrowing and the money supply.

Of course they could raise taxes on the rich to decrease the supply. Or tax excess profits to limit the money supply.

They could act more forcefully to end Russian expansion in Ukraine to expand the gas and grain supply.

Also improve the supply chain. End Thor power tool ruling and other regulatory actions to aid in that.

roamer65

(37,957 posts)
21. It cools demand by slowing consumer spending.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:41 PM
Jul 2022

I think with energy prices coming down, inflation should start to cool a bit.

Higher interest rates do not shrink the money supply, but they do slow the velocity of money.

The Federal Reserve eventually will try to reverse QE, in other words the selling of financial instruments in its portfolio into the open market.

BadgerKid

(5,005 posts)
23. Financial institutions "need" overnight interest on $2T.
Mon Jul 25, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jul 2022

And the last CPI report was probably over shooting the importance of energy because it had been coming down since the CPI report looked at the data

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