It's 100% obvious now that the rich live under a different set of laws.

[C Moon]

If I had done 1% of what tfg, bannon, desantis, bush, cheney, etc did, I'd be arrested, standing before a judge, standing before a jury and then doing prison time—no questions asked.

I think the reason nothing is being done about it is that the rich are running our country in all three branches.

[Tetrachloride]

1. The next time I get a speeding ticket, not pay taxes,

use profane language when my store is out of deep fried sunflower seeds, ….

Back to the topic,

When the people lead, the leaders will follow.

Keep up the good fight

[unblock]

2. only now? america was founded by rich privileged people, for rich privileged people.

it was created as an unholy union between northern industry leaders and southern slavers. the common ground they found was wanting lower taxes and freedom from the british so they could run their businesses as they wished.

the whole "democracy" thing was what they settled on as the selling point to convince the masses to go to war for them.

which is why our constitution is riddled with anti-democracy provisions even after blacks and women were allowed to vote.


they wanted enough democracy to convince the people to fight the british for them, but not enough democracy to tax the rich or abolish slavery.

that is the fundamental design principle of the constitution and we remain stuck with the result even long after slavery was finally abolished.

[Haggard Celine]

5. You're absolutely right.

I think the only thing that would begin to remedy the problems we have is to write a new constitution. If we did that, though, there would be a lot of conflict in deciding what to put in and what to leave out. We would probably come to a point where the different factions would realize that our differences were too far apart for compromise. We would split up into at least 2 different countries. How that would work is a profound unknown. People would be re-locating in a lot of situations. They already are, from what I read here. It's exciting and terrifying.

[unblock]

6. Problem with the two country concept is that the split really is urban/rural

Most big cities are democratic, even in red states; most rural areas are Republican, even in blue states.

Kinda hard to split a country along those lines.

[Haggard Celine]

7. Yeah, that's a big issue.

A lot of people don't realize that there are rednecks in California and gay liberals like me in Mississippi. I have a lot of issues with living here, and politics aren't really the most serious of them. I might be able to put up with it, but I'm afraid the Baptists would take over and it would be hell. So I would probably leave the South. I've read people are already relocating due to the abortion laws. People have been moving out of Mississippi for years. We had 8 Congressmen 100 years ago; now we have 4. I think if the Trump states decide to go it alone, people will leave in droves. A lot of those conservatives in blue states would bitch, but they would have better sense than to move to a place that is run by the Christian Taliban.

[newdayneeded]

14. And more importantly,

The rich somehow got rural rednecks to vote for repubs. Repubs couldn't give 2 shits about these people, and they refuse to see this.

This statement doesn't include my rural living dem friends out there!

[cbabe]

15. Traitors were pardoned. And they got their land back.

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Pardons_for_ex-Confederates

Pardons for ex-Confederates - Wikipedia

Both during and after the American Civil War, pardons for ex- Confederates were given by US Presidents Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson and were usually extended for those who had served in the military above the rank of colonel or civilians who had exercised political power under the Confederate government.

https://www.nps.gov › articles › reconstruction.htm

Reconstruction (U.S. National Park Service)

To blacks, economic freedom rested on ownership of land. But President Johnson in the summer of l865 ordered land in federal hands to be returned to its former owners. The dream of "40 acres and a mule" was stillborn, and most former slaves remained without property and poor.

[RockRaven]

3. Now, and forever...

One couldn't possibly list all the times where people said so.

The guy behind the South Sea Bubble in the early 1700s, John Blunt, was made a Baronet -- a title which his descendents still hold -- around the time the stock value peaked, and after the crash ruined/harmed just about everyone including some of the most powerful nobles and royalty, he and his fellow perpetrators had most of their assets seized, supposedly ruining him as he deserved... So he retired to the country home his son bought with his own profits from investing in the scheme.

[GoodRaisin]

4. If you want to know who is running the country

just find who gave Mitch McConnell the names of those 3 justices. That’s who’s running the country. And yeah, they’re rich.

[gab13by13]

10. Exactly,

Politicians are just pump handles, the middle men, owned by domestic oligarchs.

What we need is Sheldon Whitehouse to run for president some day, he gets it. Amy Klobuchar also gets it.

Leonard Leo's name rarely makes the news.

[FakeNoose]

13. I think we've already known that - it's the Heritage Foundation

Pretty much every ultra-conservative in the US who strives for power - including their lawyers and judges - are members of Heritage Foundation. Some of them are ultra-wealthy, but that's not a requirement so much as the desire to promote the conservative control of the USA. One of their long-term strategies has been getting conservative judges installed on the federal bench whenever and wherever possible. Getting the SCOTUS appointments was icing on the cake. They were ready to strike as soon as the opportunities arose.

[BaronChocula]

8. It's Stockholm syndrome

So many average Americans are enamored with power to their own detriment. Those same average Americans blame the poor who have nothing to do with their declining quality of life at the hands of the oligarchs they so admire. The reaction to the movie "Wall Street" sums this up. Gordon Gekko was supposed to be a villain, but somehow ended up to be some paragon of "cool" to be emulated. it's not "the system." It's Americans. This country is PHUKED!

[Cheezoholic]

9. This is where the focus of the party needs to move back to imo

we need to get away from the divisive minority based politics the right has cleaved into our society and get back to the foundational principles of our party. Until the top 10 to 20 percent in our society start stepping up on their own, this government for the people must serve the majority. It is nothing but class warfare now. There is only one division, the oldest division. The few vs the many. We need to slowly congeal the party back into the party of the many, race, sex whatever. The focus needs to turn to solidarity against tyranny.

[gibraltar72]

11. The reason I quit saying pledge of allegiance 40 years ago.

I thought we might get there. But I know now not in my lifetime.

[doc03]

12. They always have always will. Every time someone

tries to change it it is called "Class Warfare".

[Demsrule86]

16. I don't agree with you...you know they are guilty. Hell I think they are guilty too. But knowing

and proving are two different things. Conspiracy is the hardest charge to prove. I say convict everyone possible and move on. We don't have time to obsess about this. We need to win the midterm and save the country. I care far more about the women who will die because of Roe, and that Trans people have to register in Florida, LGBTQ is under attack and even inter-racial marriage, and that we have a supreme court that has gone rogue. We need to win elections. That must be our mission going forward.

[Demsrule86]

19. I think that is debatable. We need to focus on the elections coming up. Leave Trump ET Al to

to Justice.

[Demsrule86]

21. That is your opinion...I have a different one...elections matter. All ways to fix our issues beging

with the most important midterm in my lifetime.

[mathematic]

17. Blames the rich, lists out politicians, one of which isn't rich at all

Sounds about right.

[C Moon]

22. I think you know what I mean.