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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 10:24 AM Jul 2022

The cancer in the Republican Party has reached stage 4, terminal.

The cancer of extremism in the Republican Party has metastasized. It has spread throughout the entire body. It is out of control and there is no cure. The Republicans can no longer control the spread of their extremism. We can already see the damage being done.

The polls are already showing the Democrats gaining a lot of ground in the November elections. That's going to get worse, for them. The Republicans no longer run on anything except extremism. When they get hurt by their extremism, they double down trying to fix it.

This type of cancer is not survivable in the long term. Just my opinion.

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The cancer in the Republican Party has reached stage 4, terminal. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Jul 2022 OP
so how do we rid the country of this cancer of extremism? essaynnc Jul 2022 #1
How? Vote, and bring others to the polls with you. MineralMan Jul 2022 #2
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jul 2022 #3
and once voted out, they disappear, because the media will lose interest, and we will forget housecat Jul 2022 #21
This is the Republican party homegirl Jul 2022 #27
Yes, vote, vote, vote. I would add, take creative, sustained direct action of some sort. Magoo48 Jul 2022 #29
True uponit7771 Jul 2022 #39
You vote them out of power and keep them out until they realize what they are doing will not work. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #5
I think you're being way too optimistic durablend Jul 2022 #14
We're the majority. If everyone would vote we could change things. CrispyQ Jul 2022 #12
The key being every bleeping election.... paleotn Jul 2022 #18
This is One Helluva GREAT Quote, CrispyQ! calimary Jul 2022 #30
once we have a truly workable majority across the board, vlyons Jul 2022 #17
The only way I see to fix all of this is nigh unattainable. Dustlawyer Jul 2022 #24
Here's an example of the extremism at work ... Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #4
And this is why local elections are so fecking important. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #32
Reagan was the first cancer cell....or was it Nixon??? NewHendoLib Jul 2022 #6
I think it Rebl2 Jul 2022 #8
Definitely Reagan katmondoo Jul 2022 #13
I agree Buckeyeblue Jul 2022 #16
It was Thomas E. Dewey bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #9
And there were the Joseph McCarthy Communist witch hunts in the 50s. tanyev Jul 2022 #31
Which were the descendant of the Red Scare post-WWI and bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #35
Reagan. That's when the party started using incurious meat puppets as front men. hunter Jul 2022 #20
Yes Rebl2 Jul 2022 #22
This. lambchopp59 Jul 2022 #37
Nixon wanted to be king. Reagan? He wanted to destroy democracy. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #33
I don't know if I'd agree with 'a lot of ground' bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #7
make them a joke greymattermom Jul 2022 #10
Every cancer eventually dies... Thunderbeast Jul 2022 #11
You are absolutely right Traildogbob Jul 2022 #25
+1000 nt MsLeopard Jul 2022 #28
Awesome analogy fff nc DENVERPOPS Jul 2022 #15
Unfortunately The Wizard Jul 2022 #19
Murdoch's, Mercer's, Thiel, Musk, Bezos. All are enemies of democracay. And the list is longer. GoneOffShore Jul 2022 #34
Vote them out while we still can... Wounded Bear Jul 2022 #23
We have seen this before: Nixon 1974, Bush incompetent, but reelected 2004 Stuart G Jul 2022 #26
I agree. But it can still function as a Zombie. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2022 #36
Terminal for who though? live love laugh Jul 2022 #38
Fox News and AM hate radio are the driving forces behind this cancer. Initech Jul 2022 #40
Trump was at fox news bwck and call too Demovictory9 Jul 2022 #41

essaynnc

(985 posts)
1. so how do we rid the country of this cancer of extremism?
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jul 2022

no matter what we do, they make incremental progress towards their goal of taking over and implementing their extremist doctrine on all of us. even if they loose an election or two, their machine keeps chugging towards their goal.

We fight and fight to right the wrong stuff we see every day. We get lost in the minor skirmishes of wrong doing that we see and hope to fix. We fight hard to win the election or 2. But we're losing the overall war, due to their cheating and lying, propaganda, long term strategy, and single purpose-ness.

Thanks for listening to my rant. End of pessimism for today!

housecat

(3,138 posts)
21. and once voted out, they disappear, because the media will lose interest, and we will forget
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:59 AM
Jul 2022

homegirl

(1,965 posts)
27. This is the Republican party
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:45 PM
Jul 2022
Here’s NEWS... what Republicans have voted against recently:

An anti-price gouging act to fight inflation and keep goods and services affordable for Americans.

A reproductive rights act to codify protections for Americans crossing state lines for reproductive care.

A gun violence prevention act to create a comprehensive public alert system for active shooters.

A terrorism prevention act to investigate white nationalist extremism in police departments and the military.

A health care act that would provide increased resources for Americans coping with substance abuse disorder and mental health issues.

Entrenching poverty.
Enforcing inequity.
Eliminating freedom.
This is the Republican party.


Magoo48

(6,721 posts)
29. Yes, vote, vote, vote. I would add, take creative, sustained direct action of some sort.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:48 PM
Jul 2022
 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
5. You vote them out of power and keep them out until they realize what they are doing will not work.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jul 2022

Our ancestors did this back in the 1930's, 1940's. We can do it again. We better, it's all up to the American people.

durablend

(9,268 posts)
14. I think you're being way too optimistic
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:27 AM
Jul 2022

They're not going to have some sudden epiphany. They're just going to get even more pissed off.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
12. We're the majority. If everyone would vote we could change things.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jul 2022

But everyone has to vote & they have to vote in every election. Every. Fucking. One. No excuses.

Spread this far & wide:



paleotn

(22,212 posts)
18. The key being every bleeping election....
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jul 2022

We've got to keep at least doing this...



But even that isn't good enough. Turnout in the 2020 presidential was ~67% overall. We've got to narrow the gap between midterms and presidential elections.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
30. This is One Helluva GREAT Quote, CrispyQ!
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jul 2022

Any attribution?

I think I want to use this in one of my I divisible group’s weekly Call to Action emails.

And if it’s an uncredited cautionary tale, it’s well worth using anyway. Just has to be presented that way.

Thank you in advance.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
17. once we have a truly workable majority across the board,
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jul 2022

we must must must invalidate the Citizens United decision, outlaw dark money and corporate contributions. Only US citizens and legal residents should be allowed to make campaign contributions to some reasonable max level, say $2500 per candidate per race.

After that, we can prioritize the to do list. But getting the money corruption out has to be first.

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
24. The only way I see to fix all of this is nigh unattainable.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jul 2022

We have 2 root causes for most of our problems, including the RW extremism.

1. Propaganda - we have to find some way to legislate against media intentionally lying to us. The government can restrict the 1st Amendment under the same reasoning that you cannot shout “fire” in a crowded theater if no fire. Propaganda is being used by RW media to create the people that will do their bidding. The rest of the media is not innocent either, just more subtle.

2. Eliminate campaign finance altogether and enact publicly funded elections. - we are awash in bribes and quid pro quo’s and no one investigating them. Our political system is corrupt with Super PACs, Dark Money, and the Revolving Door.

The campaign money eliminates good candidates that don’t take the bribes, leaving ambitious, power hungry, sell outs to take the office. The propaganda manipulates the voters to elect the donor’s candidates. The networks benefit from all of the campaign money so they say nothing of this problem.

In my view, it would take a mass, grass roots uprising to demand these reforms, with no help from the media, to make the necessary changes. This is not likely to happen because they have us fighting the symptoms of these problems instead of the root causes. The symptoms are things like abortion, immigration, gun control, climate change…. These things are very important but cannot ever be addressed properly under our corrupt system. We have to fix the system first before we can address these other important issues.

We have a shadow government of oligarchs and Special Interests (Donors) who control our government. They also control the media with their ad dollars. The last barrier to their complete power was the Supreme Court and the federal justice system. They pretty much have this in hand now as well. This is why WE cannot have nice things!

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
16. I agree
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:33 AM
Jul 2022

When they brought in the extreme side of Christianity and paired it with anti-worker, "pro-business" extremist it made for an odd partnership but they made it work. The business side was willing to adopt an extreme social agenda in exchange to weaken unions and lower taxes. The "Christian" side was willing to vote against their own economical best interests to curtail certain civil rights.

Slowly over time, many moderate conservatives were replaced with those who were extremists. Over the last decade it has been a race to the bottom.

If Democrats make gains in the midterms will we see moderate candidates start to gain favor among Republicans? Or has that ship sailed?

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
9. It was Thomas E. Dewey
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jul 2022

that's when the GOP turned to business for its leadership, and Eisenhower, who earned everything in his entire life up to his presidency from government spending and military benefits, was a pro-business guy too.

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
35. Which were the descendant of the Red Scare post-WWI and
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jul 2022

the descendant of anti-communism post-1900 as immigrants embracing socialism flooded major cities.

And the GOP has always been the party of Big Business. Even Abe Lincoln, who was also a railroad lawyer and investor.

hunter

(40,690 posts)
20. Reagan. That's when the party started using incurious meat puppets as front men.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:59 AM
Jul 2022

Whatever horrible things Nixon was, he wasn't stupid and he was his own man.

Burned by Nixon the party started seeking out front men they could easily control.

Reagan was a venal empty headed fool who would do or say anything for a blow job. His later dementia made him even more pliable.

The Republicans may have gone too far with Trump. Trump is so damned stupid and narcissistic he thought he'd been anointed by god as emperor of the U.S.A. for life. Trump and many of his followers still believe that. With any luck they'll all go down in flames, taking the Republican Party with them.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
37. This.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 01:27 PM
Jul 2022

"Trump is so damned stupid and narcissistic he thought he'd been anointed by god as emperor of the U.S.A. for life. Trump and many of his followers still believe that. With any luck they'll all go down in flames, taking the Republican Party with them."
Yet, how to peel the rotten banana for the cultists to perceive they've been sold the brooklyn bridge?
I think we need anti-disinformation push to encourage the cultists out of that loving comfort zone they've found in hating groups X,Y,Z more than "luck".
Working at one of this area's biggest hospitals, much of our staff is immigrants, top notch caregivers all. I'm one of the ilk to step up when some red-hatted fool starts blathering racist shit. If I could broadcast the facepalmworthy shit I've seen MAGA's pull to assert their Fox-news reinforced "'Murican exceptionalism", because especially when they're sick they get extra demanding.... Jeebus crackers I could bring down the whole damn cult with it.
Of course I would be so out of a job, so deep in lawsuits doing so.
Still, we need an edge.

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
7. I don't know if I'd agree with 'a lot of ground'
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:00 AM
Jul 2022

We're bouncing, and the other guys have no upside, but we are having popularity problems too.

greymattermom

(5,807 posts)
10. make them a joke
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:09 AM
Jul 2022

Like the Josh Hawley video. Keep doing that every day until more people laugh at them.

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
11. Every cancer eventually dies...
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jul 2022

Some from chemotherapy.

Some from radiation.

Some from imune therapies.

Sadly, a large number die when they kill the host.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
25. You are absolutely right
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:30 PM
Jul 2022

The last line is spot on. We can fight it with the passion a hope a cancer patient does, pain involved, and try to beat it, or just let it eat us into a hollow corpse. Still very painful. Like cancer, you have to be “more”aggressive than it is, 24/7, because it is aggressively fighting to survive as well. The GQP is spreading faster than any virus or deadly disease that ever existed on earth. We HAVE to fight like hell. You can believe 2022 will NOT be a peaceful transfer even if we can win by 10’s of millions more votes. We need aggressive leadership, and zero reaching across the isle to our friends bull shit. They are ravenous deadly predictors and will bite that arm off at the shoulder.
I want to see outrage from our side, no more Chuck Shumer kid gloves. Bare knuckles with rage.
The messaging is screaming at us.

The Wizard

(13,735 posts)
19. Unfortunately
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jul 2022

GQP is their religion. once the dogma sets in the remedy becomes far more difficult. Step one should be deporting the Murdock family and silencing their brain poison. Next is FEMA camps.

GoneOffShore

(18,020 posts)
34. Murdoch's, Mercer's, Thiel, Musk, Bezos. All are enemies of democracay. And the list is longer.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jul 2022

Includes guys, and it's overwhelmingly guys, who are talked about in this piece - https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/07/25/the-haves-and-the-have-yachts?

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
26. We have seen this before: Nixon 1974, Bush incompetent, but reelected 2004
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 12:38 PM
Jul 2022

Political Parties survive in spite of incompetence. George McGovern was incompetent, did we survive after McGovern fiasco, and elect Obama twice?...............

Politics is a very strange game..in my honest opinion.........

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
36. I agree. But it can still function as a Zombie.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 01:22 PM
Jul 2022

They've jettisoned their humanity. But because Dems haven't truly defended themselves from the attacks by highly paid crazy talkers, 40% of the country believes them.

Initech

(108,782 posts)
40. Fox News and AM hate radio are the driving forces behind this cancer.
Sat Jul 23, 2022, 02:19 PM
Jul 2022

I've been saying for a while now that Fox is steering this country in a very dangerous direction. If we don't stop them, they will turn America into an authoritarian night. Just look at what Ron Desantis is doing in Florida. He's literally writing laws based on what Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are talking about that week. Now imagine that on a national scale.

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