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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:28 PM May 2022

LOUISIANA SENATOR BILL CASSIDY: OUR MATERNAL DEATH RATES ARE ONLY BAD IF YOU COUNT BLACK WOMEN

YES HE SAID THAT:

Senator Bill Cassidy on the state of Louisiana having one of the worst maternal mortality rates in the nation:

"We wouldn't be much of an outlier if you subtract the African American population from our numbers."


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In an interview with Politico, the following words came out of Cassidy’s mouth: “About a third of our population is African American; African Americans have a higher incidence of maternal mortality. So, if you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear. Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.”


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates

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UPDATED TO ADD:

Study Finds Many Pregnancy-Related Deaths in Louisiana Could Have Been Prevented
A new analysis finds black women are more likely than white women to suffer a preventable death during or after pregnancy.

By Gaby Galvin
Jan. 9, 2020, at 5:00 p.m.

A new analysis found that over a six-year span, more than half of pregnancy-related deaths among black women in Louisiana may have been preventable.

Between 2011 and 2016, at least 47 new moms died during pregnancy or shortly after giving birth in Louisiana, according to a state review first published in 2018. Black women were 4.1 times as likely as white women to die while pregnant or within 42 days of childbirth, from complications like blood loss, cardiomyopathy and heart disease. At the time, the state said 45% of all pregnancy-related deaths were preventable.

The new report breaks out exactly whose deaths may have been prevented: 19 black women and one white woman, representing 59% of all pregnancy-related deaths among black women and 9% among white women. The study, published this week in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology, is among the first to examine how much of the racial disparity in maternal mortality is driven by potentially preventable deaths.

https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/2020-01-09/in-louisiana-more-pregnancy-related-deaths-are-preventable-among-black-women

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/LA
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LOUISIANA SENATOR BILL CASSIDY: OUR MATERNAL DEATH RATES ARE ONLY BAD IF YOU COUNT BLACK WOMEN (Original Post) kpete May 2022 OP
Sigh. Has he ever asked why Black mortality is higher? ananda May 2022 #1
What he's NOT saying: WORKING AS DESIGNED TheBlackAdder May 2022 #23
He doesn't care krawhitham May 2022 #51
So basically it's OK if it's black women dying in childbirth I guess... Wounded Bear May 2022 #2
"Correct our population for race"? Rocknation May 2022 #3
Yeah, it screams racism. patphil May 2022 #14
What's worse? Kennedy, who just sounds like an ignorant redneck douchebag . . . hatrack May 2022 #4
Oh my. blue neen May 2022 #5
Sigh ymetca May 2022 #6
Another Sigh. madaboutharry May 2022 #7
Tell me you're a racist misoygnistic bigot without telling me you're a racist misogynist bigot... 50 Shades Of Blue May 2022 #8
It should never be allowed to serve in government. onecaliberal May 2022 #9
As my wife remarked, "This guy missed the whole point of Black Lives Matter." Efilroft Sul May 2022 #10
As we used to say in my high school -- he got the point, but he threw it back. Hekate May 2022 #28
That saying is accurate AF. Efilroft Sul May 2022 #48
Painfully obvious the moron doesn't think black lives matter onetexan May 2022 #47
Yep. SMDH. Efilroft Sul May 2022 #49
because the gop doesn't believe blacks are human........ Takket May 2022 #11
full cut from the VF article Celerity May 2022 #12
Someone whose mother should have had an abortion. Lonestarblue May 2022 #34
I wish we had rules in place that would strip people who talk like this from the right Baitball Blogger May 2022 #13
*gasp* Diamond_Dog May 2022 #15
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #16
Damn Solly Mack May 2022 #17
WE DO. eShirl May 2022 #18
Ah, the old divide and conquer routine. Black women are women. delisen May 2022 #19
If you don't count women, the maternal death rate is zero. Irish_Dem May 2022 #20
Ah, there you have it. Brilliant summation. Hekate May 2022 #26
Now ask him if there is racism in his state JI7 May 2022 #21
George Carlin said politicians represent the voters. Garbage in, garbage out. Lucky Luciano May 2022 #22
Amen, Brother George! misanthrope May 2022 #46
I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. JI7 May 2022 #24
Just do a three-fifths compromise, Bill. moondust May 2022 #25
GMTA...my first thought also...let's just count 3/5 of the black women who die... Wounded Bear May 2022 #27
They aren't even trying to pretend anymore mcar May 2022 #29
+1 n/t area51 May 2022 #43
My head hurts so bad Hekate May 2022 #30
Stupid damn fuck Ferrets are Cool May 2022 #31
He needs a new job. Cracklin Charlie May 2022 #32
They are totally blind... SergeStorms May 2022 #33
...and Black people voted for this p.o.s. LoisB May 2022 #35
Not at all surprised he thinks like this. MissMillie May 2022 #36
McConnell quote... ...African-American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans." keithbvadu2 May 2022 #37
Oh. my. god. These people think they're Christians? BadgerMom May 2022 #38
Yes, you are an idiot. Black Americans get inferior healthcare you moron Cozmo May 2022 #39
How massively f**ked up! smirkymonkey May 2022 #40
How about a 3/5 compromise? IronLionZion May 2022 #41
Deadpan "for whatever reason" TigressDem May 2022 #42
Another RepublicaNazi... LudwigPastorius May 2022 #44
"For Whatever Reason"? DallasNE May 2022 #45
Hahahaha GoldandSilver May 2022 #50
Maybe that means we should take better care of Black Women Jack the Greater May 2022 #52
Imagine discounting almost a third of your citizens' lives. kpete May 2022 #53
And black women don't count malaise May 2022 #54
His true desire is expressed: "Correct our population for race..." Ilsa May 2022 #55
He was taken out of context gulliver May 2022 #56

hatrack

(64,890 posts)
4. What's worse? Kennedy, who just sounds like an ignorant redneck douchebag . . .
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:33 PM
May 2022

Or Cassidy, who sure as hell appears to be one?

Fucking tired of their chicken-fried bullshit.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
6. Sigh
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:37 PM
May 2022

Yet still another white guy needing to be replaced. Literally replaced.

No wonder they're so afraid of "wokeness".

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
7. Another Sigh.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:40 PM
May 2022

These people are hopeless. They are wedded to their ignorance.

He needs to be reminded he is the Senator to all Louisianans, including all the African-American women who die in childbirth. He needs to be reminded that he has the power to advocate for better pre-natal and maternity care in his state.

Sigh again.

50 Shades Of Blue

(11,391 posts)
8. Tell me you're a racist misoygnistic bigot without telling me you're a racist misogynist bigot...
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:41 PM
May 2022

Celerity

(54,410 posts)
12. full cut from the VF article
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:47 PM
May 2022
Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy: Our maternal mortality rates are only bad if you count black women

“If you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear.”


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/bill-cassidy-maternal-mortality-rates



As conservatives across the country wage war on reproductive rights, demanding by law that women be forced to carry any pregnancy to term, regardless of the circumstances, they frequently (slash always) like to forget that they do absolutely nothing to support these people during said pregnancies or after. Mississippi, for example, where abortion will immediately become illegal if Roe v. Wade is overturned, has the highest rate of child poverty in the country and recently rejected a bid to extend postpartum Medicaid coverage. And in Louisiana, which has a similar trigger law that will go into effect upon Roe being reversed, maternal mortality rates are among the worst in the nation. But according to GOP senator Bill Cassidy, the rate at which women die during pregnancy or shortly after is not as bad as it seems—if you subtract the deaths of Black women, which apparently don’t count.

In an interview with Politico, the following words came out of Cassidy’s mouth: “About a third of our population is African American; African Americans have a higher incidence of maternal mortality. So, if you correct our population for race, we’re not as much of an outlier as it’d otherwise appear. Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality.”

There’s a lot to unpack here. Let’s start with the idea that Cassidy—who wants to defund Planned Parenthood is all, Yes, on its face, our maternal mortality rates are abysmal, but if you only count white women, they’re not that bad! Then there’s the phrase “for whatever reason.” In fact, there is one very big reason in particular— perhaps you can take a guess? “It’s no mystery why maternal mortality rates are so high among Black women,” Michelle Williams, the dean of Harvard’s School of Public Health said in response. “They are high because of the devastating impacts of structural racism and individual bias.” As Politico notes, Black mothers are three times more likely to die from a pregnancy-related cause than white mothers in the U.S., which has the worst mortality rate among developed nations and where “17 mothers die for every 100,000 pregnancies in the country.” In Louisiana, Black mothers are four times as likely to die than white mothers.



Asked what how Roe v. Wade being overturned would affect maternal mortality rates, Cassidy dismissed the question. “If we’re using abortion to limit maternal deaths, that’s kind of an odd way to approach the problem,” he said. That, of course, is total bullshit. As NBC News reported earlier this month, “Research suggests the bans and restrictions would have manifold effects on maternal health. For one, if more pregnant people can’t get the abortions they seek, they’d shoulder the risk of the U.S.’s relatively high—and rising—rate of death from pregnancy-related causes, which is particularly elevated among people of color.” As Dr. Amy Addante, an ob-gyn in Illinois, bluntly put it: “There are going to be women that will die from pregnancy because of this decision, period.”

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Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
34. Someone whose mother should have had an abortion.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:53 PM
May 2022

My God, what a jerk. I had to take a deep breath before at his insolence in dismissing the value of black women’s lives. Evil personified.

Baitball Blogger

(52,350 posts)
13. I wish we had rules in place that would strip people who talk like this from the right
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:50 PM
May 2022

to hold public office.

It would make everything so much easier.

Diamond_Dog

(40,579 posts)
15. *gasp*
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:08 PM
May 2022

They don’t even try to hide their disgusting racism any more.

“If you correct our population “ - - as if AA people aren’t human beings. Just disgraceful. He should resign.

And they say Critical Race Theory isn’t real!!!

delisen

(7,369 posts)
19. Ah, the old divide and conquer routine. Black women are women.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:23 PM
May 2022

Women are dying in childbirth.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
20. If you don't count women, the maternal death rate is zero.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:25 PM
May 2022

If you correct the population data for gender, there are no maternal deaths.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
46. Amen, Brother George!
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:19 PM
May 2022

Don't look to the politicos for the solution. Look to those who cast the votes.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
24. I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:33 PM
May 2022

I read the whole thing and his point in saying that seems to be to show how black women are affected by this in his state.

And this is true. It is about racism

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
32. He needs a new job.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:48 PM
May 2022

Clearly not qualified for his position.

Just subtract those women out…
Feature, not a bug.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
33. They are totally blind...
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:52 PM
May 2022

to their overt racism. If you asked Cassidy I'm sure he'd tell you he isn't a racist. Just like Tucker Carlson saying he isn't a racist, or the things he says on TV aren't racist.

They can't see it because they're looking through the eyes of a lifelong racist. They don't include minorities as part of their set. They're not human beings, they're something else entirely. They don't see that as racist though because they're totally blind to their racism.

They're impossible, and they'll never change.

MissMillie

(39,652 posts)
36. Not at all surprised he thinks like this.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:58 PM
May 2022

Amazed that he thinks it was okay to say it out loud--to a reporter.

Any chance he's running for re-election?

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
37. McConnell quote... ...African-American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans."
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:06 PM
May 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216266980

"So...African Americans aren't real Americans, Mr. Turtleman, sir?"

...African-American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans."

What about Irish-Americans or Italian-Americans or ____-Americans?


Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
39. Yes, you are an idiot. Black Americans get inferior healthcare you moron
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:48 PM
May 2022

Anyone who votes for this ignoramus gets exactly what they deserve

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
40. How massively f**ked up!
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:51 PM
May 2022

These people don't even care if they are outed as racist misogynists anymore. It's like a badge of honor for them or something. Ugh! So disgusted!

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
42. Deadpan "for whatever reason"
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:00 PM
May 2022

You mean because you really don't consider them "people" in the traditional sense enough to include them in the numbers you use to determine if it's a problem or not.


Because by ignoring the problem that makes it so much easier to sweep under the rug and say nothing to see here.


LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
44. Another RepublicaNazi...
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:13 PM
May 2022

I bet there's a whole bunch of people he'd like to "correct", probably in a fun camp with a sign that says "Work Will Set You Free".

DallasNE

(8,008 posts)
45. "For Whatever Reason"?
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:18 PM
May 2022

His job is to know the reason and to propose a remedy, not to paper over the reason. Perhaps the word "poverty" would be a substantial part of the answer. Check out the parallels.

Jack the Greater

(616 posts)
52. Maybe that means we should take better care of Black Women
Sat May 21, 2022, 02:22 AM
May 2022

Last edited Sat May 21, 2022, 03:05 AM - Edit history (1)

Ya think?

kpete

(72,902 posts)
53. Imagine discounting almost a third of your citizens' lives.
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:44 AM
May 2022

The most recent census says Louisiana is 32.5% Black: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/LA

It's become clear to me over the years that Republicans want Black women to die. We have the data & know Black women are 3 times more likely to die in childbirth. Bill Cassidy - well, if you don't count the Blacks, we're doing great.


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Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
55. His true desire is expressed: "Correct our population for race..."
Sat May 21, 2022, 09:55 AM
May 2022

Does he hear himself? No, but you'd think some near him would be intellectually developed enough to explain it to him.

gulliver

(13,985 posts)
56. He was taken out of context
Sat May 21, 2022, 10:19 AM
May 2022

The rest of the quote was "Now, I say that not to minimize the issue but to focus the issue as to where it would be. For whatever reason, people of color have a higher incidence of maternal mortality."

So, he was at least trying to be careful in his phrasing. The article later added to the above OP goes into the reasons more in depth, basically lower quality health care if I understand correctly.

Unfortunately, the opportunity to pitch and stand for national health care and equity appears to have been wasted by personalizing the statement and attacking Cassidy as a racist. We really need cooler heads to do our talking. Self-selected, rhetorically maladroit "advocates" for our positions aren't doing a good job. If they argued for apple pie a la mode, they would have people lining up against it.

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