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Archae

(47,245 posts)
Tue May 17, 2022, 12:48 AM May 2022

Will it take this to deal with crime and delinquency? Beginning to look that way...

I'm hoping it never gets this drastic, but it could.

Martial law in Milwaukee? Man has extreme plan to take back the streets

MPS consultant Tyrone Dumas shared his proposal with city lawmakers

MILWAUKEE —
The uptick in violent crime in Milwaukee can’t be ignored. Nor can the fear it creates. So what will it take to get it to stop? A Milwaukee man has come up with a plan.

As a consultant for Milwaukee Public Schools, Tyrone Dumas helps plan for the future.

So it's no surprise when he sees the city where he was born and raised hurting – from gun violence, drug abuse and reckless driving – he's come up with a plan for that, too.

"I don't want to surrender our city to evil; surrender our city to the small percentage of people who think they run the city," Dumas said. "They're people who are willing to kill, steal, create mayhem and drive crazy and have all the rest of us be afraid of them."

"You're proposing a curfew from Memorial Day to Labor Day, security checkpoints, limiting hours of gun and liquor stores; aren't those ideas too extreme?" WISN 12 News' Joyce Garbaciak asked Dumas.

"They are very extreme," he replied.

He shared his plan – sent via email to city leaders -- with WISN 12 News.

"Dear Milwaukee leadership," he wrote. "In 1967, a curfew was imposed during the riots to get control of the streets. We need similar strategies for the Summer and Spring of 2022. I think you should impose a martial law curfew."

Dumas wants that curfew from Memorial Day to Labor Day, from 7 p.m. until 6 a.m. on weekdays and from 9 p.m. until 6 a.m. on weekends. People 18 and older going to school, work or church would be allowed on the streets, as would law enforcement officers.

https://www.wisn.com/article/martial-law-curfew-milwaukee-violence/40015431

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Will it take this to deal with crime and delinquency? Beginning to look that way... (Original Post) Archae May 2022 OP
Seems extreme, but something is needed. However, white wing crimes Hoyt May 2022 #1
What it would take are steps we would never allow. Frasier Balzov May 2022 #2
Not entirely accurate Woodswalker May 2022 #3
There were tens of millions fewer guns back then. Frasier Balzov May 2022 #4
The violent crime rate today is half of what it was in the 80s and early 90s. Johnny2X2X May 2022 #8
I can't FUCKING believe martial law is being promoted on DU maxrandb May 2022 #5
Who is "promoting" martial law? Archae May 2022 #6
"Will it take this...? Beginning to look like it" maxrandb May 2022 #7
Lol we know what decreases crime, and it ain't this. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #9
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Seems extreme, but something is needed. However, white wing crimes
Tue May 17, 2022, 01:06 AM
May 2022

need to be part of any ultimate plan/proposal.

Obviously, socio-economic factors need to be addressed too.

Frasier Balzov

(5,062 posts)
2. What it would take are steps we would never allow.
Tue May 17, 2022, 01:16 AM
May 2022

Therefore, the situation in the cities is hopeless. Stay away.

 

Woodswalker

(549 posts)
3. Not entirely accurate
Tue May 17, 2022, 01:22 AM
May 2022

NYcity came back from hell in the 90s to being one of the safest big cities in America.

Frasier Balzov

(5,062 posts)
4. There were tens of millions fewer guns back then.
Tue May 17, 2022, 01:39 AM
May 2022

Don't you think that affects the possibility of a comeback?

We're past the tipping point.

Johnny2X2X

(24,210 posts)
8. The violent crime rate today is half of what it was in the 80s and early 90s.
Tue May 17, 2022, 08:57 AM
May 2022

People forget that fact. We're seeing a slight uptick, but not some tipping point explosion in violent crime. 2019 reached a low, then it went up significantly in 2020, but 2021 was a small increase.

If it bleeds, it leads though. Crime is still near 50 year lows. People don't remember the 80s when every big city was a shooting gallery.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
5. I can't FUCKING believe martial law is being promoted on DU
Tue May 17, 2022, 06:46 AM
May 2022

Opioids are killing hundreds of thousands in red, rural 'Murika.

Checkpoints, armed troops and curfews must be the answer.

Holy Fuck! That this shit is being posted on DU, and then getting responses like "sure, sounds like a good plan" makes my FUCKING hair hurt.

My God! We are truly fucked

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
6. Who is "promoting" martial law?
Tue May 17, 2022, 07:48 AM
May 2022

I'm not, and no one else said "Sure, sounds like a good plan."

The guy in Milwaukee works for Milwaukee Public Schools, and...

He's black.

If it gets bad enough that a black man is suggesting a curfew, means something is wrong and should be addressed.

The "traditional liberal" methods no longer work.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
7. "Will it take this...? Beginning to look like it"
Tue May 17, 2022, 08:55 AM
May 2022

It falls right into the Retrumplican "shithole cities" meme.

Like I asked, "why not armed checkpoints and curfews in rural Murika" as a "solution" to one of their problems?

I will tell you why. Suggesting martial law in a predominantly "white" area of America would make peoples heads explode.

You might as well say; "let's bust some skulls".

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