So, if a school had to pay $400,000 to a teacher because forcing him to use non-gender terms

[Baitball Blogger]

to accommodate a student infringes the teacher's First Amendment rights, then why can't teachers sue schools in Florida for not being allowed to speak freely about the kind of things that Ron De Santis is trying to enforce by decree?

Doesn't that qualify as a reverse discrimination scenario? Under the First Amendment, government cannot instill laws that infringe on your First Amendment, so what is true for one, should apply to the other?

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[FBaggins]

1. The two seem similar but are not quite

Universities and public elementary schools are not parallel cases when discussing freedom of speech.

There's also a difference between "compel(ling) affirmance of a belief with which the speaker disagrees" and restricting the topics in a curriculum.

If the FL law were reversed and instead required the teaching of certain materials (e.g., a lesson saying there were only two genders) then the two examples would be closer. But there's still a difference between elementary schools and universities.

[stopdiggin]

5. thanks. good explanation.

and I still think that a slavish (and unwise) adherence to freedom of religion - is going to put us in a deep hole. But that's an argument for another day.

[TheRickles]

2. Can a teacher also refuse to use a student's preferred first name or last name, as well as pronoun?

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Presumably the teacher who said "Hello, sir" to the trans girl could also have said "Hello, Ebenezer" or "Hello, Lucinda" if he'd so desired. Because requiring teachers to use correct names would also be an infringement of the teacher's First Amendment rights, right?

[PoliticAverse]

6. Maybe if the student's name was Beelzebub. n/t

[twodogsbarking]

3. It's like a soap opera without the good looking people

[70sEraVet]

4. Good line! I'll use that sometime.