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AllaN01Bear

(29,490 posts)
2. the real wealfare queens . remember tarrp?
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 04:58 PM
Apr 2022

im getting so sick and tired of them spending my taxes this way.

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Amishman

(5,929 posts)
8. TARP was repaid overall and a bargain given the alternative
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:48 PM
Apr 2022
https://www.vox.com/2014/12/19/7421359/tarp-profit
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57341#

Depending on whose math you prefer and if you include the funding for mortgage assistance that was in the bill, it was either a net cost of 66 billion or a net profit of $15 billion.

Given the alternative, even with the least favorable math it was still a bargain and money well spent

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
4. Hiring a contractor is a bailout?
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 05:22 PM
Apr 2022

I know Sanders has it in for Bezos, but this is Blue Origin bidding to build a lunar lander.

hunter

(40,690 posts)
5. At least it's not an aircraft carrier. Those similarly useless things are expensive.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:26 PM
Apr 2022

My grandfather was an engineer who worked on the Apollo Project. Bits of his metal took men to the moon and back and he was proud of that. It really was a leap into the unknown, a giant leap for mankind.

More than fifty years later it's just a party trick. We have robots that can explore space much more effectively than humans ever will, and their capabilities are increasing rapidly.

I doubt natural born humans will ever have a significant presence in space beyond low earth orbit. We're just too damned fragile.

If we humans do manage to survive the 21st century with our high technology and earth's ecosphere intact then it will be our intellectual children who move out into the solar system -- engineered beings who can walk around on the surface of Mars naked like it's a day at the beach, or make repairs to the exterior of a spacecraft in transit to Jupiter without a space suit. Maybe if we treat them well they'll take a few of us along for the ride.

Beyond that I'm almost certain the speed of light is absolute in this universe, and that Star Trek and Star Wars are fantasy, not science fiction.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
10. Spacecraft are wonderful things, exploration and imagination...war machines are ugly and useless.
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:58 PM
Apr 2022

Amishman

(5,929 posts)
6. Swing and a miss Bernie
Thu Apr 7, 2022, 06:30 PM
Apr 2022

Companies lowering the cost of space access, building a universally available and affordable high speed system, and building domestic manufacturing capacity of an extremely essential commodity (processors) - these are all excellent investments that are in line with the public's interests.

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