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riversedge

(80,813 posts)
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:11 AM Dec 2021

5 men accused of Plotting to kidnap Dem MI Gov. Gretchen Whitmer claim Entrapment!

Enough of this crap

These lawyers should be disciplined after the a judge throws out their stupid case IMHO




Men accused of plotting to kidnap Michigan gov. have new creative defense
Defense attorneys claimed a plan to kidnap Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer was actually initiated by the government.


https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/men-accused-plotting-kidnap-michigan-gov-new-creative-defense-rcna10075

Dec. 27, 2021, 12:30 PM CST
By Ja'han Jones

In an effort to have their clients’ cases thrown out, defense attorneys for five men accused of plotting to kidnap Democratic Michigan Gov. !Whitmer are claiming the men were entrapped.

It’s the latest sign that conservative spin artists are desperate and eager to portray the movement’s increasingly violent acts as government conspiracies.
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Attorneys for the five men said in a Saturday court filing that they were effectively coaxed into a plot. Their clients, they argued, had merely gone along with it out of “a sense of patriotism and right-doing.”


​​“Essentially, the evidence here demonstrates egregious overreaching by the government’s agents, and by the informants those agents handled,” defense attorneys wrote. “When the government was faced with evidence showing that the defendants had no interest in a kidnapping plot, it refused to accept failure and continued to push its plan.”


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Prosecutors deny the men were entrapped. They said some were members of a militia group known as the Wolverine Watchmen, and the men prepared for the kidnapping by surveilling Whitmer’s home, as well as conducting field exercises for practice.

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Just last week, Republican conspiracy theorist Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., claimed federal agents “encouraged people to go in” during the Jan. 6 attack. Defense attorneys for the men in Michigan are trying the same tactic and encouraging the conservative movement’s dangerous game plan: commit acts of political violence and deflect blame toward your adversaries with government conspiracy theories.




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5 men accused of Plotting to kidnap Dem MI Gov. Gretchen Whitmer claim Entrapment! (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2021 OP
they argued, had merely gone along with it out of "a sense of patriotism and right-doing. everyonematters Dec 2021 #1
Ah, yes NJCher Dec 2021 #2
"...a sense of patriotism and right-doing"? calimary Dec 2021 #3
Law degrees?! PJMcK Dec 2021 #8
Trap the Governor in a cage, but they were entrapped? bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #4
JFC North Shore Chicago Dec 2021 #5
hope the courts see through this stopdiggin Dec 2021 #6
Nope. Not entrapment. CousinIT Dec 2021 #7

everyonematters

(4,158 posts)
1. they argued, had merely gone along with it out of "a sense of patriotism and right-doing.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:29 AM
Dec 2021

In other words, they are claiming to be morons.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
2. Ah, yes
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:37 AM
Dec 2021

Because in their minds they are patriots. And that’s what patriots do , you know. They kidnap wimmin.

If idiotic defenses could be thrown out unceremoniously, I see this one deserving about as much consideration as my cat gives the salt shaker before it lands on the floor.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
3. "...a sense of patriotism and right-doing"?
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 06:55 AM
Dec 2021

“Right-doing?”

Where’d the defense teamers get their law degrees? Ronald McDonald University?

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
8. Law degrees?!
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 11:28 AM
Dec 2021

That’s terrible grammar! Don’t people learn that discipline in 6th or 7th grade?

These lawyers are risking their careers with their representation of these defendants.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
6. hope the courts see through this
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 09:47 AM
Dec 2021

silly song and dance. (I suppose defense lawyers have to try). But it would help if the feds would stop stubbing their own toes?

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
7. Nope. Not entrapment.
Wed Dec 29, 2021, 10:27 AM
Dec 2021

From Joyce Alene:



Entrapment is always difficult for defendants. It requires proof the gov’t induced the crime & also that defendants weren’t predisposed to commit it. Here, dismissal seems extremely unlikely.


There's no way entrapment applies here since gov't didn't induce the crime and defendants were absolutely predisposed to commit it. But, I guess the defense wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't ask for dismissal on some basis, no matter how flimsy?
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