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ffr

(23,398 posts)
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 12:53 PM Nov 2021

A Frustrated Eric Swalwell Erupts On Those Who Won't Get Vaccinated

I’m losing my Covid patience🧵 I’ve tried to reason with the unvaxxed. I’ve directed some to medical pros. I don’t judge but hear them out and steer them to facts. The unvaxxed love to say it’s about choice. But you know who doesn’t have a choice? My 3 kids under 5.

Blah blah blah you have a right to not get vaxxed. Fine. Then business and government have a right to tell you that you’re not welcome to patronize or you can’t get on a plane. Because what right do you think you have to expose my kids to your Covid? As parents, let’s own the outrage. The looney carnival barkers at the school board meetings DO NOT reflect where most parents are. Your unvaxxed status is creating new variants. So get your damn shot. Or, stay inside your house. But don’t mess with my kids.





Rep. Swalwell was correct. The loud minority always gets all of the media’s attention. He is also right about the unvaccinated created an environment for the virus to mutate and prosper. The unvaccinated are hosts that allow new variants of COVID to spread with ease.
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Eventually, America will either impose a vaccine mandate or allow the unvaccinated to die for their warped death cult definition of freedom, but most Americans are tired of trying to save those who don’t want to be saved. - PoliticusUSA


Fuck the unvaccinated! Assholes!
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A Frustrated Eric Swalwell Erupts On Those Who Won't Get Vaccinated (Original Post) ffr Nov 2021 OP
Agree!!!!!!! "Fuck the unvaccinated! Assholes!" RKP5637 Nov 2021 #1
THIS, Dammit!!! calimary Nov 2021 #3
Biden should declare that, for example, in 90 days anti-vaxers who get sick and seek hospital in2herbs Nov 2021 #2
And THIS, TOO, Dammit!!!!!!!!!! calimary Nov 2021 #5
I DO like this idea, BUT bluestarone Nov 2021 #10
Don't allow them inside. AngryOldDem Nov 2021 #20
Agree x's a million bluestarone Nov 2021 #22
🤔 That might have been us in NYC in Central Park... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #23
Tents should not be set up outside hospitals. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #17
Welcome ... soldierant Nov 2021 #29
Just my opinion. Delmette2.0 Nov 2021 #4
Exactly. MontanaMama Nov 2021 #35
+1 million Delmette2.0 Nov 2021 #37
Republicans in states are now paying people not to be vaccinated. Lonestarblue Nov 2021 #6
Businesses need to fight it. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #18
They really should. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #43
This is a man the Democrats need to have up front, visible, and in the media as much as possible lees1975 Nov 2021 #7
People who believe and repeat wnylib Nov 2021 #8
My unvaxxed sister says "vaccinated people spread it too" hauckeye Nov 2021 #9
They don't go to hospitals or end up on ventilators, Demobrat Nov 2021 #11
Vaccinated people are much less likely mnhtnbb Nov 2021 #13
Lower chance of getting infected and much lower viral load IronLionZion Nov 2021 #15
Sober drivers also get into car accidents hot2na Nov 2021 #26
All the vaxxed people I know, me included, are still wearing our masks. Why? Because we CARE LaMouffette Nov 2021 #30
I hope he's right about parents IronLionZion Nov 2021 #12
Don't spread it to my grandchildren. TomSlick Nov 2021 #14
I'd like to see a vaccine mandate for all flights to anywhere. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #44
Agreed. TomSlick Dec 2021 #48
I won't fly unless and until that's in place. Demobrat Dec 2021 #50
past time for this. Thank you. Evolve Dammit Nov 2021 #16
The looney carnival barkers at the school board meetings lindysalsagal Nov 2021 #19
Frikkin' YES! GO Eric! electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #21
Looney Carnival Barkers Seinan Sensei Nov 2021 #24
Vaxholes are stupid and stubborn Leith Nov 2021 #25
I was just telling my husband the vaccinated Tree Lady Nov 2021 #27
Eric Swalwell is right to be outraged at hypocrites who refuse to get vaccinated LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #28
I'm with him. róisín_dubh Nov 2021 #31
Fucking A Eric Swalwell! spanone Nov 2021 #32
Swalwell and Tim Ryan are the ballast for next years' journey bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #33
+1 Ryan.... Speaks the voice of long gone liberal heroes! Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2021 #40
""" i have heard from a friend that said in some country whose AllaN01Bear Nov 2021 #34
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2021 #39
K&R MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #36
Stop being nice!. I did, over the Thanksgiving Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2021 #38
It's time for Herman to call them home.... Blue Owl Dec 2021 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2021 #42
I'm sick of those blankity-blanks, too! ShazzieB Dec 2021 #45
he's been more patient with those assholes than i've been orleans Dec 2021 #46
I have less than zero patience with them Sherman A1 Dec 2021 #47
He is correct. If not for the absurd ignorance and arrogance, we would be living a different BeckyDem Dec 2021 #49

in2herbs

(4,388 posts)
2. Biden should declare that, for example, in 90 days anti-vaxers who get sick and seek hospital
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 01:02 PM
Nov 2021

care will be relegated to tents that will be set up for COVID patients in the parking lots of hospitals and if they don't like it they will be turned away. These anti-vaxers need to feel the wrath that they are inflicting on others.

calimary

(90,010 posts)
5. And THIS, TOO, Dammit!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 01:40 PM
Nov 2021

It should be the FIRST question that they’re asked - anywhere, for any reason.

“Are you vaccinated?”

And if not, say goodbye to your “freedoms.” Your “freedom-freedom” does NOT ‘ean you’re “free” to spread a potentially lethal virus around.

I don’t give a damn what your lame-ass excuse or Pox Noise-induced rationale is. Wear the damn mask, DAMMIT!

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
10. I DO like this idea, BUT
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:25 PM
Nov 2021

If possible and legal i would like to see the HOSPITALS decide to set up OUTSIDE tents or WHATEVER to care for the UNVAXXED! This is NOT for Joe to do, BUT, it is i think ok for the hospitals to do just so NORMAL care can be given to people that need it! To ADD here i feel THIS would show that the un-vaxxed better decide SOON to get the shot or else.

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
20. Don't allow them inside.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:58 PM
Nov 2021

Have triage tents set up outside.

That is the whole purpose of triage, and sorry, but an unvaxxed person with COVID symptoms can wait. They can think of it as a time for deep, personal reflection.

A major hospital here did have quonset huts set up outside at the height of the pandemic. Never really heard how many people it treated there. The critical care units were full for months, though.

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
22. Agree x's a million
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 03:04 PM
Nov 2021

Un-vaxxed need to KNOW this is how it is if they refuse to get the fucking set of shots. Why can't hospitals DO THIS? That would be AWESOME!!!

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
17. Tents should not be set up outside hospitals.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:53 PM
Nov 2021

To be more efficient... Next to cemeteries.

Delmette2.0

(4,503 posts)
4. Just my opinion.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 01:39 PM
Nov 2021

Every one should have to show proof of vaccines (3) before you can go into a hospital. If you have COVID and refused vaccines for what ever reason, you are not allowed in for visiting, treatments, follow-ups or the emergency room.

Just go home and save resources for those who are trying to protect themselves, families, neighbors and co-workers.
You are not trying to end this pandemic and you do not get our help.

MontanaMama

(24,721 posts)
35. Exactly.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 08:04 PM
Nov 2021

People are dying from treatable and curable ailments in hospital hallways because beds are full of the willfully unvaccinated. Every damned one of them should be sent home to deal with the mess they created for themselves so that vaccinated people can receive the care they deserve. Not to mention the stress and strain this is causing our medical professionals.

Lonestarblue

(13,474 posts)
6. Republicans in states are now paying people not to be vaccinated.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 01:55 PM
Nov 2021

If they lose jobs because of the refusal to get the vaccine, Republicans are paying them unemployment even though they were fired for reason.

The Washington Post has an article today about red states paying unvaccinated people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/11/29/florida-iowa-kansas-tennessee-unemployment-benefits-fired-covid-vaccine-requirements/

Republicans are using the pandemic as an election strategy just as they did for the 2010 when they blamed Obama for the economic mess of the Great Recession, which they caused in the first place. Republicans made huge gains in that election, and they’re planning for the same in 2022.

“But building solidarity with fellow culture warriors isn’t the only benefit for Republicans.
These policies also undermine federal efforts to get the pandemic under control, which the right then blames Biden for not controlling. They also might help sabotage the economic recovery, which the right will also blame Biden for not sufficiently juicing.”

It’s their same old blame game, and many voters just roll over and vote for Republicans even when they offer nothing better and actually deliver much worse as their history shows.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
18. Businesses need to fight it.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:55 PM
Nov 2021

They are paying into the unemployment compensation for their employees.

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
43. They really should.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:36 AM
Dec 2021

I hope businesses start raising a ruckus about this! And maybe they will. After all, it affects their bottom line.

What was that about the GOP being the party that supports business? Oh, that's right. They're not.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
7. This is a man the Democrats need to have up front, visible, and in the media as much as possible
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:09 PM
Nov 2021

wnylib

(26,008 posts)
8. People who believe and repeat
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:12 PM
Nov 2021

the disinformation about vaccines are the same people who fall for other kinds of rumors and gossip, what we now call "urban legends" and in the past called "old wives' tales."

For example, when I was a kid, there was a family of siblings at school who never brushed their teeth. They used gum and breath fresheners to avoid mouth odor, but said they didn't even own toothbrushes. They believed that toothbrushing wears down the enamel of teeth and causes cavities.

Naturally we laughed at the idea because they had dental health backward. But it's what their mother had told them so they could not be persuaded by facts. Her "reasoning" sounded logical to her and to them except that she didn't have basic facts to base it on, e.g. that tooth enamel is too strong to be eroded by the brushes. In her mind, if candy could wear through enamel, so could toothbrushes.

That's the kind of "thinking" that makes people believe ridiculous claims about vaccines and about "natural cures and preventions" against covid. If there is simple logic to what they hear, and it comes from someone they trust, then they believe it. Since they have no understanding of vaccines or of basic biology, trying to inform them sounds too complicated and therefore bogus to them.


Demobrat

(10,299 posts)
11. They don't go to hospitals or end up on ventilators,
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:26 PM
Nov 2021

or die. Hospitals and graveyards are full of the unvaccinated.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
15. Lower chance of getting infected and much lower viral load
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:36 PM
Nov 2021

both significantly reduce amount of spread from vaccinated people. But if we are also masked and social distanced, that risk goes down close to 0.

hot2na

(458 posts)
26. Sober drivers also get into car accidents
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 03:23 PM
Nov 2021

But if you don't drink and drive your chances of avoiding a car accident or even death is significantly reduced.

It's the same logic with the vaccine. The vaccine significantly reduces the chances of infection, hospitalization or death.

LaMouffette

(2,640 posts)
30. All the vaxxed people I know, me included, are still wearing our masks. Why? Because we CARE
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 06:11 PM
Nov 2021

about other people and don't want to risk giving someone else Covid if we happen to catch Covid in spite of being vaxxed and aren't symptomatic.

So for that reason, I would say that vaccinated people are MUCH less likely to spread it because we're the ones you see with masks on these days.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
12. I hope he's right about parents
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:33 PM
Nov 2021

because media keeps showing the crazy people at school board meetings who I hope are a small minority.

TomSlick

(13,013 posts)
14. Don't spread it to my grandchildren.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 02:34 PM
Nov 2021

I'm ready for a more serious crackdown. A good start would be a vaccine mandate for domestic flights.

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
44. I'd like to see a vaccine mandate for all flights to anywhere.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:40 AM
Dec 2021

You're not vaccinated? You are not allowed on a plane, period.

Demobrat

(10,299 posts)
50. I won't fly unless and until that's in place.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 07:14 PM
Dec 2021

Flying is miserable enough without getting stuck sitting next to some disease vector.

Seinan Sensei

(1,543 posts)
24. Looney Carnival Barkers
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 03:08 PM
Nov 2021

Looney Carnival Barkers are gonna be insulted with this comparison

Leith

(7,864 posts)
25. Vaxholes are stupid and stubborn
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 03:10 PM
Nov 2021

It is long past time that we stop putting up with those loudmouth germ buckets.

Tree Lady

(13,282 posts)
27. I was just telling my husband the vaccinated
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 03:45 PM
Nov 2021

Are getting angry very angry at the unvaxed for keeping this going.

róisín_dubh

(12,336 posts)
31. I'm with him.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 06:17 PM
Nov 2021

I don't have kids. But I am pretty goddamned tired of this constant stress. I split my life between two continents. My partner is over there and my job is here (for now).

AllaN01Bear

(29,485 posts)
34. """ i have heard from a friend that said in some country whose
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 06:40 PM
Nov 2021

name i dont remember , " if u have covid and wernt vaxxed, u wont be admitied to hospital". period .

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Stop being nice!. I did, over the Thanksgiving
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM
Nov 2021

weekend, with my husband's Texan wingnut family.

It's a horrible thing, something you never really wanted to do, go against and inflame your in-laws. But I manage to do it.

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ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
45. I'm sick of those blankity-blanks, too!
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:55 AM
Dec 2021

After almost two years, I'm freaking sick to death of this crap.

The first year was the scariest, but at least it felt like we were all in this together. NOW, it feels like some of us are trying like hell to do all the right things (masks, vaccination, etc.), while another bunch of people are farting around spreading this garbage everywhere without a care in the world, until they get sick themselves, and then they're like, "Oh, woe is me, this covid crud is terrible, who knew? Please give me the vaxx now, kthnx. What do you mean it's too late? Oh noooooo."

And we're supposed to feel sorry for them? Well, sorry, not sorry. Except for all the people they probably gave it to. UGH.

FUCK THEM ALL.

orleans

(36,912 posts)
46. he's been more patient with those assholes than i've been
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 03:52 AM
Dec 2021

i've got a granddaughter under five that i worry about. thank god my daughter is extremely protective and careful

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
47. I have less than zero patience with them
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 06:39 AM
Dec 2021

And want nothing to do with anyone who is so friggin stupid.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
49. He is correct. If not for the absurd ignorance and arrogance, we would be living a different
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 02:29 PM
Dec 2021

reality right now.

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