Ghislaine Maxwell loses key rulings ahead of trial for Jeffrey Epstein sex crime case

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Ghislaine Maxwell loses key rulings ahead of trial for Jeffrey Epstein sex crime case
Published Mon, Nov 1 20214:40 PM EDTUpdated Tue, Nov 2 20215:43 PM EDT
Tom Winter
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Dan Mangan
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/01/ghislaine-maxwell-loses-rulings-before-jeffrey-epstein-sex-case-trial.html

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A judge Monday ruled that prosecutors can refer to accusers of Ghislaine Maxwell as “victims” at the British socialite’s upcoming trial in New York on charges of procuring underage girls to be sexually abused by mysterious money man Jeffrey Epstein.

Manhattan federal court Judge Alison Nathan, citing the need to protect Maxwell’s accusers from embarrassment, also ruled during a hearing that those women can have their identities kept anonymous during the trial.

Maxwell’s lawyers had wanted prosecutors barred from using the word “victim” and “minor” to describe the accusers, and also had wanted them identified during the trial with their real names.

Defense lawyers also lost their bid to be allowed to suggest at trial that prosecutors only filed charges against Maxwell because of press coverage about Epstein and his alleged misdeeds with her.

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[Tomconroy]

1. Hard to believe she didn't roll over on Prince Andrew.

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2. It's her ace in the hole. Too soon to play it.

[SheltieLover]

3. Good rulings, imo

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4. They seem fair to me.

[SheltieLover]

7. Absolutely!

[Firestorm49]

11. And what's this thing popping up so much about being able to refer to a victim as a victim?

It’s surfaced in the Rittenhouse case in Kenosha, WI, and now in the NY case. Is this a Republican maneuver to slightly alter public opinion as to the outcome of a case? Or option two, which is totally viable, am I off my fricking rocker?

[Captain Zero]

12. Yeah. This is new to me. Had it been routine before.

Seems to be a routine defense ploy now.

[CaptainTruth]

17. It's routine in the legal world. Seems like the press & public just recently realized it.

It's routine in trials where part of the legal case to be made is to prove that someone is, in fact, a victim. If you start off calling them a victim you've jumped right to the conclusion without providing any evidence to support the conclusion.

It's like if you were accused of robbing a bank. Prosecutors couldn't start off calling you "a robber" or "the robber" or "a criminal" before they offered any evidence to support their case that you were, in fact, the robber & committed a crime.

It's been this way for a long time, it's just something that doesn't normally get reported. It seems like the media has realized that they get more clicks (& thus more advertising revenue) when they stir up anger, so they're now reporting on this totally normal routine thing that's been happening in courtrooms for years, because they realize it stirs up anger.

[Farmer-Rick]

5. She's still alive?

I'm surprised. Hmmm, seems she's smarter than Epstein. He lasted less than 2 months in prison.

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6. She thinks she's got powerful men who will save her before their names come up ...

Epstein knew he was never going to have his life back, that the lawyers and lawsuits, and prosecutions and sentences were going to break him.

[NoMoreRepugs]

8. Too far fetched to imagine one of her legal strategies

is to delay and postpone a trial until the possibility of the SlobFather being POTUS again and granting a pardon to cover his possible involvement w/Epstein??

Early Sunday Am craziness I know…..

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9. 45 denied knowing Epstein past his name. He'd never lift a finger to help /Maxwell.

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13. Epstein kinda looks like Potsie Weber. Got pretty cold last night, didn't it?

[keithbvadu2]

14. "I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told...

“I've known Jeff (Epstein) for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141705027

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212251998

[Aviation Pro]

15. Social life

Is that what they call rape now?

[calimary]

16. Yep. Let's NOT EVER forget.

[whathehell]

18. Good. n/t

[keithbvadu2]

19. Eric started a meme that Bill Clinton was seen in the same bldg as Maxwell.

There are many pictures of Trump with Maxwell

Eric started a meme that Bill Clinton was seen in the same bldg as Maxwell.

He deleted it when many pictures showed up with his daddy and Maxwell.