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UPDATE astroworld concert: 8 confirmed deaths (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2021 OP
stampede Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #1
Looking at the linked tv news page, it looks like there's marybourg Nov 2021 #2
took at look... you are right...not a happy news page Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #5
It looks like a typical sidebar for the 4th largest city in the US LeftInTX Nov 2021 #23
That's One Way To Get Around A Vaccine Check SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #3
the stampede happened hrs ago. ambulances were at the festival a few hrs ago... dozens. not sure why Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author rollin74 Nov 2021 #7
edit (some masks ... this looks so scary. Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #6
Yeah, we call this modern civilization. LastDemocratInSC Nov 2021 #8
rumor is that during the concert, there was pushing towards the stage, people got crushed and killed Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #9
At Least 8 Dead SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #16
Stampedes: Not just for Wal-Mart's Black Friday Sale anymore! Grokenstein Nov 2021 #10
I watched a video about concert stampede deaths... thought they learned from them... people stampede Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #14
I checked the Astroworld web page jmowreader Nov 2021 #15
Texas is alotta bad things, but this guy is a rap artist and most of the kids are minorities. LeftInTX Nov 2021 #20
This Travis Scott guy...I've seen numerous stories of these type things at his "appearances." BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #29
at least 8 confirmed dead "scores of people injured" rollin74 Nov 2021 #11
yes, thanks. twitter says it was a mosh pit, aphyxiation type event. Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #13
update,, 8 confirmed death. Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #12
Some Americans Just Don't Give A Shit About Human Life SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #17
the venue was not staffed to aid injured for this size crowd per witness nurse some luckone Nov 2021 #18
Used to happen a lot at football matches bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #19
Yes. I remember it always happened in the UK LeftInTX Nov 2021 #21
In the UK bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #22
US... Who concert crush... 11 died Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #24
I wasn't there (nor in that area) but as a super Who fan... electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #28
Trying to piece this together... Takket Nov 2021 #25
not related...happened hours apart Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #27
Just looked like normal tourists. Just parading enthusiastically. IcyPeas Nov 2021 #26

marybourg

(13,642 posts)
2. Looking at the linked tv news page, it looks like there's
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:03 AM
Nov 2021

only nightmarish news in Houston. Unless this is some kind of “bad news” page. Horrific, No wonder people are clinging to cults and bizarre public demagogues.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
3. That's One Way To Get Around A Vaccine Check
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:08 AM
Nov 2021

But this is TX, is there even a vaccination requirement to attend?

And how in the world is this "Breaking," when it happened 12 hours ago? I love when people make accurate posts.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
4. the stampede happened hrs ago. ambulances were at the festival a few hrs ago... dozens. not sure why
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:16 AM
Nov 2021

Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #4)

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
9. rumor is that during the concert, there was pushing towards the stage, people got crushed and killed
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:37 AM
Nov 2021

rumor on twitter... looking for official news.

Grokenstein

(6,357 posts)
10. Stampedes: Not just for Wal-Mart's Black Friday Sale anymore!
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:43 AM
Nov 2021

Oh god, I just found out there's even a website that keeps a tally.

http://blackfridaydeathcount.com/

Gates just don't matter anymore. I suspect within the next twenty years outright airlock-style entrances and exits will be commonplace in venues across the United States.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
14. I watched a video about concert stampede deaths... thought they learned from them... people stampede
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:47 AM
Nov 2021

when the line is long and the concert is about to start...

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
15. I checked the Astroworld web page
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 02:53 AM
Nov 2021

You need either proof of a negative COVID test or proof of vaccination to get in.

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
20. Texas is alotta bad things, but this guy is a rap artist and most of the kids are minorities.
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:59 AM
Nov 2021

This could happen at any venue in the US.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
29. This Travis Scott guy...I've seen numerous stories of these type things at his "appearances."
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 07:44 AM
Nov 2021

I think he caused a huge crowd scene during the height of the pandemic, if I remember correctly.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
17. Some Americans Just Don't Give A Shit About Human Life
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:16 AM
Nov 2021

All over some fucking music.

The last 1 3/4 years has proven to me that in this country, life is expendable. Thoughts & Prayers will make it all right. Whether it's Guns, Covid or a Stampede, we just don't care.

luckone

(21,646 posts)
18. the venue was not staffed to aid injured for this size crowd per witness nurse some
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:40 AM
Nov 2021

were inexperienced and eqpt lacked


?

The concert was being live streamed

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
19. Used to happen a lot at football matches
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:47 AM
Nov 2021

In England back in the seventies and eighties.

After Hillsborough the authorities got serious about crowd control

I hope that doesn't start to happen here

LeftInTX

(34,303 posts)
21. Yes. I remember it always happened in the UK
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:13 AM
Nov 2021

We really haven't had a problem...

I don't know what happened at this event.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
22. In the UK
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:20 AM
Nov 2021

And in Europe. It was generally the result of poor stadium design. Too many people trying to enter or exit through turnstiles etc.

Hillsborough deaths were attributed to the crowd surge. Similarly there were deaths in Glasgow at Ibrox park after a Celtic-Rangers match.

Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
24. US... Who concert crush... 11 died
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:30 AM
Nov 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster

The Who concert disaster occurred on December 3, 1979, when British rock band The Who performed at Riverfront Coliseum (now known as Heritage Bank Center) in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, and a rush of concert-goers outside the Coliseum's entry doors resulted in the deaths of 11 people.[1][2]

Summary of events
People were originally told through a radio station that GA ticket holders would be admitted at 3:00 p.m. and therefore a sizable crowd formed by 5:00 p.m. Although all the doors were expected to be opened simultaneously, only a pair of doors at the far right of the main entrance were finally opened. As concert goers entered the stadium through these two open doors, those waiting in front of all of the other doors began pushing forward again. After a short period of waiting and then knocking on the doors and the glass next to the doors, the crowd assumed that none of the remaining doors would be opened. At about 7:15 p.m., the situation began to escalate. Conflicting reports suggested that concertgoers could hear either a very late soundcheck or The Who's Quadrophenia movie, in lieu of an opening act. Either way, the crowd assumed that The Who were on earlier than scheduled. At that point, the entire crowd surged and pushed toward the two doors which had been opened. This caused many people to get trampled while some suffered more serious injuries. Eleven people were unable to escape the dense crowd pushing toward them and died by asphyxiation. Twenty-six other people reported injuries.[5]

The concert went on as planned, with the band members not told of the tragedy until after their performance. The following night, a lengthy segment on the tragedy aired on the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite examining violence at rock concerts. The following show in Buffalo the next night, Roger Daltrey told the crowd: "We lost a lot of family last night. This show's for them."[6]

Takket

(23,715 posts)
25. Trying to piece this together...
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 04:52 AM
Nov 2021

So in the video that is people without tickets who stormed the entrance. And that crowd pushed to the front where they caused a surge and people got crushed?

Trying to figure out how the surge in this video relates to the deaths at the concert since the people who died were inside already listening to the music.

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