confused deportees step off plane, surprised to find themselves in Haiti, place they left years ago

[Demovictory9]

Deportees land in Port-au-Prince: ‘Nobody told us we were going back to Haiti’


PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — He crossed the Mexican border into Texas only two weeks ago, joyous at the prospect of building anew in the United States. Now part of the first wave of deportees rapidly ejected by the Biden administration amid a fresh surge at the border, Johnson Bordes, 23, stepped off a Boeing 737 on Sunday and into the Haitian capital, terrified by a city torn apart by violence in a homeland he could barely remember.

Like many deportees arriving on charter flights at the airport in Port-au-Prince, 15 minutes from neighb
Norhoods controlled by brutal armed gangs, Bordes’s family left Haiti in the great migration after the 2010 earthquake that killed more than 200,000 people. He was 12 when they left, first for the Dominican Republic, then on to Chile, where he was living with his mother and brother when the coronavirus pandemic hit. Encouraged by relatives in the United States, the family set out on a 4,500-mile trek to the U.S. border — never imagining the road would lead back to the devastated country they left more than a decade ago.


“How could they bring us back here?” he asked. “This is an injustice. I don’t even know where we are going to sleep tonight.”

He mingled with other confused deportees, many of whom hadn’t seen Haiti in years, and now spoke Spanish or Portuguese better than Haitian Creole. Several families told The Washington Post that they were never told they were being deported back to Haiti.

“If Biden continues with these deportations, he’s no better than Trump,” Bordes said. “I’m afraid for my safety here. I don’t even know this country anymore.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/deportees-land-in-port-au-prince-nobody-told-us-we-were-going-back-to-haiti/ar-AAOCnpT?ocid=msedgntp

[femmedem]

1. This is the first thing Biden's done that I'm really angry about.

Don't get me wrong; I'm grateful he's our president. But this is horrifically inhumane.

[Demovictory9]

2. this has been happening to other migrants, they think they are on a flight to family around uS

land in El Salvador or Guatamala. i guess it's how they get around having the migrants make a fuss

[femmedem]

4. I had no idea.

Thank you for educating me. I'll have to read up on it.

[Kaleva]

12. What does the law(s) dictate Biden do?

[femmedem]

13. A lot of immigration policy is set by the Administration.

Here is a list of Biden's early executive orders: https://cmsny.org/biden-immigration-executive-actions/

[Kaleva]

15. Biden can only write EOs that he's allowed by law to do.

What, if any, are the laws that apply to this particular situation?

[femmedem]

17. It's clear from the WaPo article that DHS had discretion.

From the article: "In comments to CNN on Sunday, however, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas defended the deportations, saying the damage from the recent earthquake had been “rather geographically limited” and that an analysis of the situation on the ground had determined that “country conditions” allowed for the repatriations."

I have to go to work and don't have time to research the laws that apply, but that excerpt from the article convinces me that this was a decision that could have legally gone another way.

[Treefrog]

20. Yes, this is really sad.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. This is a fucking disgrace.

[Treefrog]

21. You said it better than I.

[Baitball Blogger]

5. For those who were holding out in a latin american country over the last few years,

their timing couldn't have been worse.

[BlueLucy]

6. Damn! We missed out! Hillary would have been awesome!

I love Biden but Hillary would have been better IMO.

[Ritabert]

7. They couldn't have picked a worse time

We have 100,000+ refugees from Afghanistan to resettle not to mention those Central Americans who've been waiting months or more. There is no room for them.

[Celerity]

14. Tajikistan says it's ready to take in up to 100,000 Afghan refugees

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/tajikistan-says-its-ready-take-up-100000-afghan-refugees-2021-07-23/


Tens of thousands of Afghan refugees are scattered around the world, where they face years of uncertainty

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/afghan-refugees-america-uk-help-b1914015.html


Afghanistan: How many refugees are there and where will they go?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58283177

How many Afghans were evacuated?

The US-led operation to evacuate people by air has now ended, with the last flight taking off from Kabul airport just after midnight on Tuesday - a deadline agreed with the Taliban for foreign forces to withdraw.

More than 123,000 civilians were evacuated by US forces and its coalition partners after the Taliban took control of the capital on 14 August - but it's unclear exactly how many of those were Afghan nationals.

The US has said that it flew nearly 80,000 civilians out of Kabul and of those, about 5,500 were Americans and more than 73,500 were either Afghans or other foreign nationals.

While the UK Ministry of Defence, which ended its evacuations on Saturday, said it had flown out more than 15,000 people and some 8,000 of them were Afghans.

[Steelrolled]

8. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think there is a lot of de facto

bi-partisan agreement on migration policy - of course neither side wants to talk about it, for very different reasons.

I think President Biden sees very upside in any large changes (and I think he is right).

[JI7]

11. I think it's also to prevent others from coming in the first place

the article shows that one of the guys who decided to come did so because his family in the US told him to .

And people often think that with a Democrat in office it will be easier to get in to the US . THis happened during Obama's time in office also.

People just assume things .

[Steelrolled]

18. "People just assume things ."

You are right. There have been some small changes at the start of Biden's presidency, but the overall policies haven't changed. It seems the policies in Europe are becoming increasing strict against migration/asylum, and there is less finger pointing between the rich nations.

[JI7]

9. "Encouraged by relatives in the United States, the family set out on a 4,500-mile trek to the U.S. "

That's a problem.

[Demovictory9]

10. same for people from many countries. It works out for many. US lets them in, puts them on bus to

their family..... thousands and thousands by year.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

25. It's not illegal to seek asylum.

[Jose Garcia]

28. But it is illegal to cross the border without permission

The legal way to seek asylum is to apply for it an an American consulate or embassy, or to request it at a port of entry.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

31. People in the country "illegally" can still seek asylum.

[Jose Garcia]

32. They can also be deported or prosecuted for illegal entry

[WhiskeyGrinder]

33. They can be, but they don't have to be.

[Jose Garcia]

35. Biden is being strict on illegal immigration in order to discourage more illegal immigration

[WhiskeyGrinder]

36. The majority of the Haitian refugees are seeking asylum, and manufactured backups at points of

entry are encouraging illegal crossings that can then be justified by cruel mass deportations. It's a shit move targeted at specific populations.

[Jose Garcia]

37. Most of these people left Haiti ten years ago

They have been living in Central and South America. They could have applied for asylum in the county thay had been living in.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

42. They could have, but they didn't, because many faced discrimination and uncertainty in the

countries they've moved through, and believed they could get a better chance in the U.S.

[Jose Garcia]

45. They could have applied in the country they have been living in for the last 10 years

[jcgoldie]

27. Said every republican ever.

[Jose Garcia]

29. And yet this seems to be the Biden Administration's policy

[LanternWaste]

44. Then please support your assertion with objective sources. TY. nt

[harumph]

19. The reality is we already have a huge homeless problem

and dwindling tax bases in many cities, plus COVID to sort out. We should of course continue to let people
immigrate - but there has to be some kind of control. 12K people can't show up en masse and expect
to be let in. Sorry. It's only going to get worse (much much much worse) as climate change and food scarcity worsens -
so we (as a country) need to come up with a plan that is equitable - but one that won't cause
our infrastructure to collapse - any worse than it already has.

[Delphinus]

30. Yes, a plan is necessary

All that you cite, plus war, war is going to keep folks coming here and we have to have plans in place to accept them.

[Demovictory9]

40. why the 100% response on Haitians and no one.others releaseed into uselse

why the 100% response on Haitians and no one.others
Other caravans..some put on buses to.their relatived in america with just a promise to return for asylym hearing

.

[Tommymac]

22. What conservative billionaire funded the gathering of all those refugees at one spot?

Guaranteed to provoke this reaction from the Biden administration that is dictated by current policy boundaries?

They baited a trap their pet MSM could not help but cover.

Just to make a situation where Biden will look bad.

These folks didn't just decide to uproot themselves from many places and come to that spot in Texas by chance. They could not afford it.

The conservative billionaires have done this before - gathering refugees together just so a Democratic Administration has no choice but to deport them.

This did not happen in a vacuum. Hope some independent journalist will shine the light of Truth on this situation.

[Jose Garcia]

38. There were all kinds of right-wing conspiracy theories during

the Trump years that 'migrant caravans' were funded by rich liberals:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/10/donald-trump-george-soros-caravan/amp

[ripcord]

23. Biden has been telling them not to come since he entered office

They made the choice to ignore him, this isn't on Biden.

[forthemiddle]

34. Trump has been telling them not to come since he entered office

They made the choice to ignore him, this isn't on Trump.


Instead of "Biden has been telling them not to come since he entered office

They made the choice to ignore him, this isn't on Biden."


I can't remember, is that what we were saying 4 years ago too?

[MoonlitKnight]

24. Look at it this way

Would you give priority to an Afghan family that had left back in 2010 and was living in a second country and no longer at risk due to the current situation but decided because of the current situation that they could cut the line and come to the US only because of the current situation in Afghanistan? I say no. Same goes for Haiti.

People suffering in Haiti need the help and get to the front of the line. People who are originally from Haiti but in a different country must follow the normal process- which includes getting sent to your country of citizenship/legal residence if you try to cut in line.

Immigrants who followed the process have little sympathy for those who cut in line.

[fescuerescue]

26. Isn't that what deportation is?

I understand the frustration.

Not sure I understand the confusion.

[Amishman]

39. Agreed. Where else would they go?

And staying here shouldn't be an option either, we can't take in every person fleeing trouble in their home country.

There is a legal process to come to this country and be allowed to stay. If they are being deported, they did not follow it.

That being said, given where they are being deported to, our government should have made better arrangements for their transition once they arrived back in Haiti

[Demovictory9]

41. Plenty of youtube videos of crowded us bus stops with central americans released into us

why the 100% response on Haitians and no one.others
Other caravans..some put on buses to.their relatives in america with just a promise to return for asylym hearings

[jalan48]

43. Like something from a Kafka novel.