More than 99.99% of fully vaccinated people in U.S. have not had a severe breakthrough case

[dalton99a]

https://kvia.com/coronavirus/2021/08/09/cdc-data-shows-99-99-of-vaccinated-havent-had-covid-breakthrough-case/

CDC data shows 99.99% of vaccinated haven’t had Covid breakthrough case
August 9, 2021 12:33 PM

WASHINGTON, DC -- More than 99.99% of people who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to an analysis of data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

As of Aug. 2, more than 164 million people in the United States were fully vaccinated against Covid-19, according to the CDC. Fewer than 0.001% of those individuals — 1,507 people — died and fewer than 0.005% — 7,101 people — were hospitalized with Covid-19.

CDC last published data on breakthrough cases through July 26. These latest figures include 938 additional severe breakthrough cases — 862 additional hospitalizations and 244 additional deaths — reported over that seven-day period. The CDC does not provide more detail about the timing of the breakthrough cases.

About three-quarters (74%) of all reported breakthrough cases were among seniors age 65 or older. Of the roughly 1,500 people who died, one in five passed away from something other than Covid-19 even though they had a breakthrough case of the virus, according to the CDC.

Since May, the CDC has focused on investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases among those who have been fully vaccinated.

[House of Roberts]

1. I hope that holds through lambda and other variants.

[LisaL]

7. It doesn't even hold through delta.

NT

[SoonerPride]

13. That is patently false. The data is right there in the post.

this is really great news about the efficacy of vaccines.

[USALiberal]

17. You wearing masks now?? Nt

[SoonerPride]

18. Yes. I always said I follow CDC guidance.

Thanks for your concern though.

[GulfCoast66]

14. Are you disputing the numbers in the OP?

Pretty much shows it is holding against Delta.

[LisaL]

25. What is the percentage of un-vaccinated people that aren't dead from covid?

NT

[muriel_volestrangler]

33. No it does; the OP figures are for *all* variants, including delta

So we know the Delta figures cannot be greater than the total.

[JoanofArgh]

2. They need to ok those booster shots for seniors and the immunologically

impaired.


Israel says it's early but they're seeing encouraging results from the boosters.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215720477

[Roland99]

3. Anecdotally, I know two. One of my daughters and a cousin of mine. Both double-dosed.

Cousin’s was more moderate than my daughter’s (who lost taste/smell and had a bad headache for a few days)

[Coventina]

11. I also know two serious cases, which I've been posting about here.

A dear friend of mine and his husband are both fully vaccinated and both very sick.

My friend might have to be hospitalized.

[LisaL]

4. The title is wrong.

They haven't been hospitalized or dead with covid.
CDC isn't even tacking breakthrough infections anymore unless they result in hospitalization or death.

[Tomconroy]

5. The data on breakthrough cases is

Not very reliable. Apparently the CDC data does not cover the last weeks in July when the delta variant began to rage. We need much better data, from a more recent time period

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-infections-vaccines.html

[Ms. Toad]

6. Meanwhile all of those cases that did NOT involve hospitalization or fatalities -

probably at least 50 x as many as died (75,350), are individuals who have been running around spreading COVID to both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.

Since May, the CDC has focused on investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases among those who have been fully vaccinated.

While most are probably not consciously spreading it, anyone vaccinated who is not also wearing a mask at least indoors, is capable of
acquiring an asymptomatic or "mild" case and contributing to the spread before they are aware they are ill, as well as contributing to the development of variants like lambda and delta.

We all need to do our part.

[Haggard Celine]

8. They don't know how many of the vaccinated

have had breakthrough cases; they only count the people who had to be hospitalized and those who died. That headline is misleading. I think there ate a lot of breakthrough cases, and either the people who contracted the virus didn't know they had it or the people knew they had it, but it was a mild case and they didn't need hospitalization.

[SPDem]

9. I feel like thinking about this way

Undermines the danger of delta. It took a whole year for the original strain to reach as many people as it did. Most people simply haven't been exposed to delta and therefore couldn't have a breakthrough case yet. I keep seeing it framed this way and while I fully believe in vaccination, it gives a false sense of security to throw around these numbers. The efficacy just isn't as high against delta.

[LisaL]

10. They are not even counting the cases here.

They are only counting people who were hospitalized or died. Most vaccinated people haven't died from covid.
Most un-vaccinated haven't either.

[GulfCoast66]

16. In my opinion you are leaving out the most important data point.

Almost none of the hospitalized or dead are vaccinated.

I never expected the vaccine to keep me from ever getting it I was hoping it would keep me out of the hospitalized. It does.

[SPDem]

20. Yeah I get that

I just have heard people quote these numbers like it's an efficacy rate. Not here but people in the medical field I work in. Basically these numbers are useless. I dont get why this is being reported.

[LisaL]

24. Yep, presenting it in this way is misleading.

Most of the vaccinated aren't dead and that's great.
But most of the un-vaccinated aren't dead either.

[SoonerPride]

12. This is really good news.

Thanks for sharing it.

[Tomconroy]

15. It remains a theory rather than a proven fact

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That vaccinated people can infect others. The CDC recommendation to resume wearing masks apparently on a study of the Provincetown outbreak in early July.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

The study lists it's significant limitations. No one knows whether the Provincetown breakthroughs were infected by vaccinated or unvaccinated people.
The data on whether vaccinated people can infect others isn't very good either.
The better case for wearing masks is because of breakthroughs, which we know actually happen.

[Lisa0825]

19. Last i heard in my county, breakthrough cases were at about 0.25%

I like them odds!

[BootinUp]

22. doing my part to add another nine. nt

[monkeyman1]

23. this is real simple - do what the fuck your told & you'll be fine ! don't & your fucking dead !

[IronLionZion]

26. 7,525 hospitalized or died out of 164 million vaccinated

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. Omg... Means the vulnerable, the elderly, their vaccines

Have lost effectiveness. Booster asap, please

[NH Ethylene]

28. That number is meaningless.

How many vaccinated people who have been exposed to Covid have had a serious breakthrough case?

Playing with the numbers like this is disingenuous at best. I think it's intentionally deceptive and it doesn't help the cause of getting more people to get the shots.

[qazplm135]

29. No one here

Is arguing vaccines suck.
The valid concern is that the unvaccinated continue to percolate variants, one of which may breakthrough for real.

Fauci has said as much.

I'm a no hospitalization breakthrough.

I'm treating the world the way I did prior to vaccination.

It's holding for now, but at some point in the future, a version could be worse and that's a leading edge I don't want to be on.

[C Moon]

30. A lot of "I think" going on here. I'll look at the facts, not "I thinks."

Get vaccinated, let's put this virus to death, instead of the reverse.

[oasis]

31. It's the smart thing, the safe thing, and the right thing to do.

[marie999]

32. They may not be hospitalized or dead, but if they don't mask then they can spread the virus.

Children under 12 can not get vaccinated.