The eviction ban ending - do you realize how bad the homeless situation already is WITHOUT it?

[ansible]

Holy shit this is going to be a disaster! I see people here thinking it's not going to be that big a deal, do you live in nice HOAs where you don't see how fucked up the modern world is now with so many people already homeless right now???

[leftstreet]

1. Do you have numbers on any of this?

What percentage of current renters will be evicted?

[H2O Man]

2. Recommended.

[Stuart G]

3. Most people in this country have no idea how bad the "homeless situation" is right now...

and....sadly...most don't care at all

[snowybirdie]

4. Forgotten in all this

is the fact many states have only given out a small fraction of federal funds allocated for this program. Lots of phony excuses, but they're not paying out.

[2naSalit]

7. +1

[crickets]

8. 👆👆

[Solly Mack]

5. K&R

[Hoyt]

6. Think it could be devastating too. On the positive side, unemployment is much less than

previous levels. So, more people will be able to make rent payments.

Many landlord's will likely work out some payment agreement for "delinquent" rent because a new renter sure isn't going to pay a penny toward delinquent rent. Unfortunately, some landlord's will take advantage of situation to raise rent.

Seems to me, the unused rent funding should be reauthorized soon. There is a good bit of help remaining.

Finally, USA's homeless rate is less than a lot of comparable countries. Unfortunately, there is not one source for the comparison because each country's rate is often measured differently (does it include "sheltered" or not, how long, etc.). You have to look at a lot of sources and make some determinations. But, it appears USA's homeless rate is less than UK, Canada, and Germany.


*"Inadequate Housing is another issue.

[Maru Kitteh]

14. Do those numbers come from the same source? Same criterion?

Study and figures gathered by the same researchers? Curious to know.

[Hoyt]

15. As I mentioned, you have to look at several sources and make

some “interpolations.”

For example, some data includes those in shelters as “homeless,” while others only include “living rough.” Personally, I’d consider both “homeless,” unless it’s an an exceptionally nice and permanent shelter (which likely does not exist).

[Maru Kitteh]

16. Can't really say who is doing better or worse if you're not playing

by the same rules. Other modern nations seem to have much more robust social safety nets, so it would surprise me some to find out they had a greater number of homeless.

[Hoyt]

17. Greater RATE, not number. I can see where you might have

difficulty interpreting the data.

Maybe, give it another look using RATE and report back.

Also, while I get that we tend to think the “grass is greener on the other side (to be trite), it’s not always.

On other hand, not being as bad as some other countries, is not an excuse for any homeless.

[Iggo]

9. It's okay though, since Garcetti made it illegal to be homeless.

[chowder66]

12. It is not illegal to be homeless in CA and the moratorium for CA ends Sept 30th.

It is not illegal to be homeless in CA. The article linked below touches on the complexities of our situation. Politicians are under a lot of pressure to clean up the streets from constituents (individuals and businesses). There is also the issue of safety for everybody.

I personally don't think 30 days is enough time to figure out where the homeless can sleep or go. That is my biggest gripe about this but it is unsafe down the street from me for both housed and unhoused. I've seen cars getting aggressive with the homeless and near accidents. Then there is the issue of the fires they have been setting around here.

"This ordinance first of all does not make homelessness illegal. It does not criminalize homelessness. It does not make any conduct that is fundamental to being human illegal. What it does do is it guarantees that we will reestablish passable sidewalks. It protects the users of our public infrastructure and the unhoused residents of our city from being put into positions of interaction with automobiles, around loading docks, driveways and so forth. It guarantees access to our fire hydrants, entrances to buildings."

Several people — some identifying themselves as property managers, homeowners and neighborhood and business association representatives — called in to Wednesday's council meeting to voice support for the ordinance, saying that street encampments have become out of control.

https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/homelessness/2021/07/30/mayor-garcetti-signs-ordinance-to-restrict-homeless-encampments

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. This is going to bite Democrats in the ass.

[airmid]

11. I have been homeless. I have been so poor I didn't even have a car to sleep in.

I have eaten from trash cans and prayed not to get raped on the street. If you haven’t lived it, you can’t comprehend it or the fear that lies in the hearts of those who have been homeless before and may be again. The newbies are in even worse shape.

[flotsam2]

13. What you said.

Most people have no real vision of down and out. I have been fortunate (family) but met people in rehabs who know that world.